Many claim a Christian cannot also be a scientist

[CoreIssue]

God blessed the Israeli's crops when they were obedient without science.

They still knew how to farm.

What you're talking about is rain, pests and the like. Things that come with nature under God's control.

It's obvious you're not a farmer.

 

[CoreIssue]

I still think us morons have more faith than geniuses.

That varies with every individual.

 

[Dave L]

They still knew how to farm.

What you're talking about is rain, pests and the like. Things that come with nature under God's control.

It's obvious you're not a farmer.

God also took sickness away from the obedient. No medical knowledge involved at all.

 

[Dave L]

That varies with every individual.

Sight walkers have less faith.

 

[CoreIssue]

A law of major finds that it help understanding the Bible came from biblical archaeologists.

 

[CoreIssue]

God also took sickness away from the obedient. No medical knowledge involved at all.

Why are you such as cynic?

 

[Dave L]

Why are you such as cynic?

I don't trust human beings in any matter.

 

[CoreIssue]

I don't trust human beings in any matter.

So you don't trust your father, mother, wife or children.

Wow!

 

[Dave L]

So you don't trust your father, mother, wife or children.

Wow!

I trust Christ to keep me and my wife trustworthy.

 

[CoreIssue]

I trust Christ to keep me and my wife trustworthy.

So he doesn't keep anybody else trustworthy?

 

[Vince]

I like Todd Friel but here he demonstrates he does not understand evolution.

 

[BreadOfLife]

God blessed the Israeli's crops when they were obedient without science.

That's silly - agriculture is science.
The Church has never been "anti-science". The scientific world of today has become anti-God.

Here are some of history's most important scientific discoveries - ALL discovered or theorized by Christians - MOST of them clergy:

- William of Ockham (c.1288–c.1348) – Franciscan Friar known for the mathematical principle, Ockham's Razor

- Thomas Bradwardine (c.1290–1349) – Archbishop and one of the discoverers of the Mean Speed Theorem.

- Jean Buridan (c.1300–after 1358) – French priest who developed the Theory of Impetus.

- Nicole Oresme (c.1320–1382) – 14th century bishop who theorized the daily rotation of the earth on its axis differentiation, the concept of infinity, and the Binomial Theorem.

- Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543) – First person to formulate a comprehensive heliocentric Cosmology.

- Christopher Clavius (1538–1612) – Jesuit who was the main architect of the Gregorian Calendar.

- Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) – Father of Modern Science

- Francesco Lana de Terzi (1631–1687) – Jesuit priest who has been called the Father of Aeronautics.

- Jean Picard (1620–1682) – French priest and Father of Modern Astronomy in France

- Louis Pasteur (1822–1895) – Father of Bacteriology.

- Mary Celine Fasenmyer (1906–1996) –Catholic sister and mathematician, founder of Sister Celine's Polynomials.

- Gerty Cori (1896–1957) – Biochemist who was the first American woman to win a Nobel Prize in science (1947)

- Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître (c.1894–c.1966) - the Catholic Priest who first proposed the Big Bang Theory.

 

[Vince]

That's silly - agriculture is science.
The Church has never been "anti-science". The scientific world of today has become anti-God.

Here are some of history's most important scientific discoveries - ALL discovered or theorized by Christians - MOST of them clergy:

- William of Ockham (c.1288–c.1348) – Franciscan Friar known for the mathematical principle, Ockham's Razor

- Thomas Bradwardine (c.1290–1349) – Archbishop and one of the discoverers of the Mean Speed Theorem.

- Jean Buridan (c.1300–after 1358) – French priest who developed the Theory of Impetus.

- Nicole Oresme (c.1320–1382) – 14th century bishop who theorized the daily rotation of the earth on its axis differentiation, the concept of infinity, and the Binomial Theorem.

- Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543) – First person to formulate a comprehensive heliocentric Cosmology.

- Christopher Clavius (1538–1612) – Jesuit who was the main architect of the Gregorian Calendar.

- Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) – Father of Modern Science

- Francesco Lana de Terzi (1631–1687) – Jesuit priest who has been called the Father of Aeronautics.

- Jean Picard (1620–1682) – French priest and Father of Modern Astronomy in France

- Louis Pasteur (1822–1895) – Father of Bacteriology.

- Mary Celine Fasenmyer (1906–1996) –Catholic sister and mathematician, founder of Sister Celine's Polynomials.

- Gerty Cori (1896–1957) – Biochemist who was the first American woman to win a Nobel Prize in science (1947)

- Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître (c.1894–c.1966) - the Catholic Priest who first proposed the Big Bang Theory.

These are Christians that used science to advance our knowledge. They did not use the bible as a source of truth in these sciences. Nowhere in the bible does it say how to do a heart transplant or make plastic for medical uses, or show how vaccines work. These were all discovered by science.

 

[BreadOfLife]

These are Christians that used science to advance our knowledge. They did not use the bible as a source of truth in these sciences. Nowhere in the bible does it say how to do a heart transplant or make plastic for medical uses, or show how vaccines work. These were all discovered by science.

That's the whole point.
It's not the Bible OR science. They are harmonious.

These discoveries and theories weren't made in SPITE of Scripture - but in HARMONY with Scripture.
You might even say that Christianity is a perfect mix of Scripture, faith and science.

 

[Vince]

That's the whole point.
It's not the Bible OR science. They are harmonious.

These discoveries and theories weren't made in SPITE of Scripture - but in HARMONY with Scripture.
You might even say that Christianity is a perfect mix of Scripture, faith and science.

Show me where in scripture where we get vaccinations from, or where we are told how to mend broken bones, or how to make life saving medical devices. No, it is not a mix but mostly science.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Show me where in scripture where we get vaccinations from, or where we are told how to mend broken bones, or how to make life saving medical devices. No, it is not a mix but mostly science.

The people I listed prayerfully and faithfully came to their conclusions. Not ONE of them contradicted Scripture. REAL science doesn't - only junk theories do.

Anyway, technically - vaccinations simply come from created elements manipulated by people.

 

[Vince]

The people I listed prayerfully and faithfully came to their conclusions. Not ONE of them contradicted Scripture. REAL science doesn't - only junk theories do.

Anyway, technically - vaccinations simply come from created elements manipulated by people.

Would we have vaccines without science? If we had only the bible?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Would we have vaccines without science? If we had only the bible?

Would we have vaccinations without the created elements or the create people to manipulate them?

 

[Vince]

Would we have vaccinations without the created elements or the create people to manipulate them?

Show me they were created by god.

It took people to look into things and discover how things work and how to use that to our advantage. Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about any medical advances, it would have been nice tough if your god would have mentioned some of these things in his book. God never directed anyone in the bible to advance scientific discovery.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Show me they were created by god.

It took people to look into things and discover how things work and how to use that to our advantage. Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about any medical advances, it would have been nice tough if your god would have mentioned some of these things in his book. God never directed anyone in the bible to advance scientific discovery.

There are several places where remedies are offered to medical reasons - and work.

God gave man the ability to learn and ALL of the tools with which to advance in his learning. No different that ANY medical student..