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Mark Of The Beast

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Love123, Jul 21, 2006.

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    IF THE CHIP IMPLANT HAS THE NUMBER 666 IN IT ....WILL YOU STILL TAKE IT?SINCE ITS JUST A FRAME OF MIND. .......AND NOT AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL STEP TO TAKE IT OR CLAIM IT. Chip Implants for Humans Already Here and in Use You are here: Greater Things > News > Chip Implants for Humans Already Here and in Use ... www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/ • Save The Mark of the Beast could be the bio-chip implant "VeriPay" or ... s top federal prosecutors and investigators began receiving chip implants in their arms in November in order to get access to restricted ... www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm • Cached • Save
     
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    I recommend that you listen to this:http://endtime.gsradio.net/endtime/media/m...66-howclose.mp3I believe that in order for the Mark of the Beast to be a pledge to the Anti-Christ there needs to first be an Anti-Christ. So far (to my knowledge) there is no Anti-Christ right now. Also, we are about 2+ years from the world having everything COMPLETELY setup for the mark of the beast to just appear over-night. So… you have enough time to watch a little TV before you have to worry about it.:cool:
     
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    Hey Sweetie...............no Man Knows The Exact Time Or Hour............We Are To Watch The Signs............................You Should Watch A Little More Closely................And In The Time I Don’t Have A................ T.v. LolDon’t Have One............... To Watch..............I Am About My Fathers Businesses.........................the Business Of Wining Souls.......................lest One More Soul Go To Hell And........ I Be Held Accountable For Not Speaking When .................i.................had A Chance To................God Bless..........................and I Pray You In The Family Of God.........do The Same................speak For The Lord..............satan’s Family Doesn’t Hold Anything Back Do They? Just Watch T.v.Praise Jesus.................lets Be All We Can Be.....................for Jesus........Its Time ..............................now............amenPs...............keep An Eye On Israel..................gods Chosen People
     
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    PLESE EXCUSE HOW GOD CAME OUT IN A PEGEN FORM AS god.........NOT MY INTENT...................GOD BLESS
     
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    David,I so enjoyed listening to this link you provided..................I have had the questions of the temple being rebuilt... and how far are they?What is going on......?Amazing!................they made all of the furnishings to be installed in the temple ....they are ready and waiting and the building of the temple is in progress.I have no link..... but I must tell you Russia is in the practice of this cashless card........It strips the citizens of their Christian names............and it’s just a number.........They are in protest...........yet if they refuse the card...........they cannot buy or sell.As this card pursuit spreads globally..............it is not the mark of the beast....................Until it is forced.................upon your flesh................as in the chip.So as disclosed through your provided link.............we are to have a card soon.....Any can take the card..............its like a credit card..............................We all have them...................The NO ......................is..............when it becomes physical.............Upon the back of the hand or the forehead............. do you agree?.
     
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    The bible does not say the mark is a chip that is mans teaching not Gods word http://www.christianityboard.com/showthread.php?t=146
    I think the restraint you have as to what the world is evolving into is a concern.You need to let others..............see both sides..............of the mental state of being...........as well as the actual physical marking..............May I ask if you are a willing candidate for the bio- chip?Will you take it so that you will be able to continue to live comfortably?Enabling yourself to continue to buy and sell...You need to educate yourself to 666 and the chip 666 and the lightning speed rate at which computers run on 666.There is so much going on.................in the global world...........To do with 666 and tracking. Everyone needs to be aware of it............know it..............research it.Lets not stand in line.... saying its mental............and go like sheep to the slaughter with our hands out.................taking this mark............so that we may go on living life as we are accustomed to......buying and selling and enjoying lifes comforts.And end up in Hell with Satan...... I say; lets not sell souls for a hamburger.
     
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    I probably been reading the bible longer than youve been alive I dont tell anyone how to believe Im only telling them what God says so when the time comes they they will know.You are giving them your oppinion of what man says. And yes I would get a chip because nowhere in the bible does God say dont get a chip ,nor is it a sin to get a chip I can prove what I say in the bible you on other hand have to twist scripture and guess at what you think it might say or mean.I dont mean to sound agrumenitive about it but as a monitor on this site we have a policey to use the bible as our final authority so although you are free to discuss what you believe on this site it is my duty to point out the truth as it is in Gods word.And people can make up their own minds
     
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    I probably been reading the bible longer than youve been alive I dont tell anyone how to believe Im only telling them what God says so when the time comes they they will know.You are giving them your oppinion of what man says. And yes I would get a chip because nowhere in the bible does God say dont get a chip ,nor is it a sin to get a chip I can prove what I say in the bible you on other hand have to twist scripture and guess at what you think it might say or mean.I dont mean to sound agrumenitive about it but as a monitor on this site we have a policey to use the bible as our final authority so although you are free to discuss what you believe on this site it is my duty to point out the truth as it is in Gods word.And people can make up their own minds
    And yes I would get a chip because nowhere in the bible does God say dont get a chip;No offense..................but I think your on the wrong road.....................I wouldn’t take too many souls in that direction. Its not safe...................please look around you at the current events as well as scripture............... 2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.II Corinthians 5: 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that *We might be made….. the righteousness……. of God in him. SEE IT?*We might be made….. the imputed to you…… the moment you call Him your heart. Revelation 14:1 also speaks of those who have the Father's name and the Name of the Messiah written on their Foreheads. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.Revelation 22:4 says that God's servants will have His NAME ON THEIR FOREHEADSAnd grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.Revelation 7:3 Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the Foreheads of the servants of our God."sealed unto the day of redemption.Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] Mark upon their Foreheads, or in their Hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. whereby ye are sealed Hebrews 8:10: "I will put my laws in their minds, and write them on their hearts."John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye Are not of God.Proverbs 13:1 A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.THROUGH SALVATION THE HOLY SPIRIT IMPUTES RIGHTEOUSNESS IN US.GODS OWN ARE SEALED UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.WE ARE MARKED BY GOD.....INVISIBLE TO US.........YET NOT INVISIBLE TO GODS ANGELS................OR SATAN AND HIS DEMONS...................SATAN LIKES TO IMITATE GOD................AS HE WILL PERFORM GREAT WONDERS AND MIRACLES.......... REV13:13-13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.HERE IS THE CATCH...................SATAN IS NOT GOD...........HE NEEDS THE HELP OF HIS HENCHMEN..........TO DO EVIL.GOD IS OMNIPRESENT..................EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME.SATAN IS A LIMITED BEING...... NOT OMNIPRESENT......SATAN WILL NEED THE TOOL.............THE CHIP........A TRACKING DEVICE...TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE............WHAT THEY ARE UP TO..........UNLIKE JESUS..........................JESUS KNOWS EVERY HAIR ON YOUR HEAD...Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. HE DOESN’T NEED A CHIP TO FIND YOU AND KNOW WHAT YOU’RE UP TO............. THE SEAL OF GOD – IS SALVATIONTHE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666
     
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    Im following Gods word who are you following?God does not talk of chips or I.D. cards.You will be called before The Anti-christ and asked to swear aligence to him, a belief(mark) that he is the true christ, and you will have to agree to spread his false doctrine(do his work) to be able to buy or sell .I will ask you the same question you asked of me will you accept that the anti-christ is christ so you can buy or sell? because the anti-christ comes first claiming to be christ.if you are fooled by the great deciever and accept his offer then you have accepted the mark of the beast before you get any card.Thats what the bible says. maybe he will give you an I.D. card or a chip then but the card wont be the mark, you believing the lie and accepting the false christ is the mark.
     
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    MARK OF THE BEAST TRANSLATIONS FROM THE GREEK TO ENGLISH.`stigma' can mean prickFrom the word "epi to our English word "epidermis"`charagma' can mean etchingRIGHT HAND AND FOREHEADMany people insist that the Mark has to be an implant in the skin. Although the Greek word `stigma' can mean prick (as well as a reference to a mark of ownership) and although the Greek word `charagma' can mean etching (or a badge of servitude), this is not necessarily proof that the Mark has to be an implant. The King James Version translated the Greek word "epi" to the English word "in" or "upon" for the following marks: • in their foreheads (Revelation 7:3) • his mark upon their foreheads, (Revelation 20:4) • or in their hands (Revelation 20:4) • in their right hand (Revelation 13:16) • in their foreheads (Revelation 13:16) • written in their foreheads (Revelation 14:1). The word "epi" is usually translated as "upon" (also: come to, by, at, before and over). The King James Version translated the word 'epi' both ways in Revelation 20:4. We get our English word "epidermis" from the Greek. We also get our English word "hypodermic" from the Greek. You would never confuse the two English words. "Epi-dermis" is upon the skin, "hypo-dermic" is under the skin.• In EVERY occurrence of the Beast's mark in your Bible, the Mark is "epi" (upon) the hand and forehead. • From the word "epi to our English word "epidermis"Many people claim that the Mark will be a physical mark because the English word "Mark" refers to a physical mark. Although it refers to a physical mark, it can refer to physical marks that are also designations of ownership, as in a rancher branding his cattle, or an artist signing his work. Later, I will show that a Social Security Card is indeed a certificate of ownership. The English word "Mark" can also mean a scar, as in Galatians 6:17: "... I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus." This is translated from the Greek word `stigma', which is not the word "Mark" used in Revelation. "Stigma" in Strong's Concordance is defined as "a mark incised or punched for recognition of ownership, i.e. scar of service:-mark." Notice that its primary meaning of this "stigma" physical mark is as a designation of ownership. More about the word "stigma," later. The Greek word for "Mark" in the eight occurrences in Revelation, is the Greek word `charagma' (Strong's G5480) which means an etching or a badge of servitude. The extent of God's wrath leads us to believe that this is something extraordinary. But grammatically, there is no reason to suspect that this is anything more than advanced than a badge, or an ID card. The Mark might eventually involve an etching of the skin, as a tattoo or an implant, but I don't see where Scripture requires it. A Social Security Card already fits this prophecy. A number issued by a foreign power already qualifies you to buy and sell, and as we shall see, none of the other Biblical Marks in the right hand or forehead refer to a tattoo or scar or implant. The only other occurrence of the word `charagma' in the Bible is translated into the word `graven' in Acts 17:29. Let's take a closer look at Revelation 13:16-17 so that you will never be lulled into waiting for a tattoo or implant. Revelation 13:16,17 (KJV) "And he causeth (Greek "poiei" = agree, appoint, cause, commit, provide) all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive (Greek "didomi"= give, bestow, bring forth, grant, have power) a mark in their right hand (Greek "cheir" = grasping, a means of power), or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." I don't claim any great insight into these literal phrases. It might be as simple as making a Mark available for all to grab. We have parallel examples in our own culture: one who is appointed (poiei) to office receives power (didomi) after he raises his right hand (cheir) during the oath of office. Even today's English Dictionaries define: "a right hand man" as one who is reliable in performing his delegated duties. When you signed the Application for a SS Number, with a Perjury Oath (right hand), you received power (didomi) to buy or sell. I find it curious that the word for "give" (didomi) is translated "receive." Rather than speculate on the literal, let's study the symbolic and let the Bible interpret itself as much as possible. Keep in mind that John the Revelator would be familiar with all of the other Biblical references to signs, words, tokens, law, and seals upon your right hand and forehead. The terminology "A mark in your forehead" symbolically means "to serve." And so it is to this very day; a Uniform's cap has an engraved metallic mark etched at the forehead. The terminology "In your right hand" symbolizes "Oaths" (Genesis 14:22, Ezekiel 17:18, Ezekiel 36:7 and Daniel 12:7). And so it is to this very day; an Oath is performed with your right hand raised. Look up "Oath" in any Encyclopedia: An Oath is always a religious ritual. Your Bible prohibits taking an Oath to a pagan state god. A perjury Oath on a government Form is a religious ritual. (Your government continues to conduct their religious rituals, because they cannot have separation of their church from their state). "Foreheads" and "hands," when mentioned together, signify "loyalty and obedience." It is as simple as today's idiom "right hand man." As we study all the Biblical references to the right-hand-and-forehead, keep in mind that there are different messages being conveyed: • A reminder that your sovereign will protect you and provide for your security • In Deuteronomy 11, it seems to be a warning that your sovereign must be worshiped, and if forgotten, the sovereign will punish you and your children. (In other words: John could be saying that from the Beast's point of view, you will be punished if you will not give out your number). • It refers to the use of force to deliver your Nation from oppressors (as in Exodus 13, Deuteronomy 11, Revelation 7). From the Beast's point of view, "Christians" are the oppressors of the degenerate political majority. • It always seems to imply memorizing precepts about your sovereign's authority, and obeying the sovereign's law. Although "hands" mentioned without foreheads refer to Oaths, notice that "hands," when mentioned with "foreheads," refer to "loyalty" rather than to Oaths. Also notice that your forehead is reserved for Christ's Mark in Revelation 7 and 14. Here are the Biblical examples where both forehead and hand terminology are used together. It is important to notice that none of these refer to physical marks, implants, or tattoos, and notice that every instance also mentions "children:" Exodus 13:8-9 (KJV): And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.Exodus 13:15-16 (KJV): And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem. And it shall be for a token upon thine hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand the LORD brought us forth out of Egypt.Deuteronomy 6:6-9 (KJV): And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.Deuteronomy 11:16-23 (KJV): Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, [Note: this word "gods" is the Hebrew word 'elohiym' which can mean magistrates or judges] and worship them; And then the LORD'S wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth. For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him; Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.Proverbs 7:1-3 (KJV): My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee. Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye. Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.Revelation 7:2-3 (KJV): And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 14:1 (KJV): And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.The word "Mark" in Revelation's "the Mark of the Beast" is the Greek word "charagma" (Strong's G5480). "Charagma" is a badge of service, or an etching, such as an etched metallic badge (or perhaps an ID card). Throughout the history of mankind, A BADGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SYMBOL OF SERVITUDE. If you've been brainwashed into thinking of a badge as a symbol of authority, you have it backwards. A Mark/Badge on your forehead has your master's name (= authority). If you are off the feudal manor while wearing your master's badge, everyone knows you are conducting business in your master's authority. This was necessary as a public notice that your master would pay for any transactions conducted in his name and he would pay for any damage that you cause. Aaron wore a metal badge at his turban's forehead, as a badge of servitude. It was the part of his Uniform (Exodus 28:36-38) which marks it as God's Uniform. While he is in Uniform, he represents his Master's authority. And so it is to this very day: Uniforms' Caps, Helmets, Berets, or Turbans have a metal Badge of Servitude at the forehead. Also, Ezekiel 9:4 refers to physical marks on the forehead as an outward symbol of inward attitudes. Just as you cannot wear two caps at once, You cannot have both a Mark of a Beast and Christ's Mark (as in Rev 14:1) on your forehead. Your forehead is reserved for Christ's Mark. If you belong to a Beast, then serve your Beast. If you belong to Christ, serve Christ.
     
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    Im following Gods word who are you following?God does not talk of chips or I.D. cards.You will be called before The Anti-christ and asked to swear aligence to him, a belief(mark) that he is the true christ, and you will have to agree to spread his false doctrine(do his work) to be able to buy or sell .I will ask you the same question you asked of me will you accept that the anti-christ is christ so you can buy or sell? because the anti-christ comes first claiming to be christ.if you are fooled by the great deciever and accept his offer then you have accepted the mark of the beast before you get any card.Thats what the bible says. maybe he will give you an I.D. card or a chip then but the card wont be the mark, you believing the lie and accepting the false christ is the mark.
    Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.Joshua 24:15 : but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by me, he will be saved, and will go in and go out, and will find pasture.
     
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    THE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666(your Quote)-----------------------------------------------------------Just assuming for a moment that you are right (which you are not)......( Krissys opinion)and the goverment forces us to get a national ID.card or chip then does that make the goverment the beast,G.Bush Satan???NO........... MAN KNOWS WHO THE BEAST WILL BE................ LOOK AT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..............THIS ID.CARD IS GLOBAL NOT ONLY NATIONAL...WE ARE ROTATING INTO GLOBAL TIMES...........................MEN ARE FAILABLE. Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. To beleive this you have to ignore even more bible verses then you are now.Because the beast(who comes at the 6th trump/breaks the 6th seal and pours out the 6th vial,(666)orAnti-christ will create such a delusion, that he is Christ,that God says if hedid not shorten the days even the very elect would be fooled.ITS WRITTEN.Well I dont think anybody thinks Bush is Jesus returned.So how does the goverment forced I.D.turn out to be this Mark the condems your soul ??? BECOMES A CHIP TO BE IMPLANTED IN ONES SKIN.Revelation 19:20 and the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who did the signs before him, in which he led astray those who did receive the mark of the beast, and those who did bow before his image; living they were cast—the two—to the lake of the fire, that is burning with brimstone; ... THIS IS THE ........CONDEMNATION.And If you are so convinced this is right tell me where you learned this.2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyselves approved unto God, have you studied the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent,do you know Hebrew Idioms,do you know the difference between translation and trasliteration,do you know how to rightly divide the word,about the types and layers of teaching in the bible.I AM NO EXPERT..................... the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent Hebrew Idioms trasliteration,If not then you are not a biblile scolar so what authority do you base this knowledge on?Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.LIVING ON EARTH...... LOOK AT EARTH GLOBALLY..........THINGS ARE HAPPENING.IT IS EDUCATIONAL......TO TAKE ONES HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.... ONE KEEPS HEAD.
     
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    THE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666(your Quote)-----------------------------------------------------------Just assuming for a moment that you are right (which you are not)......( Krissys opinion)and the goverment forces us to get a national ID.card or chip then does that make the goverment the beast,G.Bush Satan???NO........... MAN KNOWS WHO THE BEAST WILL BE................ LOOK AT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..............THIS ID.CARD IS GLOBAL NOT ONLY NATIONAL...WE ARE ROTATING INTO GLOBAL TIMES...........................MEN ARE FAILABLE. Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. To beleive this you have to ignore even more bible verses then you are now.Because the beast(who comes at the 6th trump/breaks the 6th seal and pours out the 6th vial,(666)orAnti-christ will create such a delusion, that he is Christ,that God says if hedid not shorten the days even the very elect would be fooled.ITS WRITTEN.Well I dont think anybody thinks Bush is Jesus returned.So how does the goverment forced I.D.turn out to be this Mark the condems your soul ??? BECOMES A CHIP TO BE IMPLANTED IN ONES SKIN.Revelation 19:20 and the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who did the signs before him, in which he led astray those who did receive the mark of the beast, and those who did bow before his image; living they were cast—the two—to the lake of the fire, that is burning with brimstone; ... THIS IS THE ........CONDEMNATION.And If you are so convinced this is right tell me where you learned this.2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyselves approved unto God, have you studied the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent,do you know Hebrew Idioms,do you know the difference between translation and trasliteration,do you know how to rightly divide the word,about the types and layers of teaching in the bible.I AM NO EXPERT..................... the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent Hebrew Idioms trasliteration,If not then you are not a biblile scolar so what authority do you base this knowledge on?Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.LIVING ON EARTH...... LOOK AT EARTH GLOBALLY..........THINGS ARE HAPPENING.IT IS EDUCATIONAL......TO TAKE ONES HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.... ONE KEEPS HEAD.
    then dont be so condesening to others you may not know ALL there is to know
     
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    I will ask you the same question you asked of me will you accept that the anti-christ is christ so you can buy or sell?WHAT ELSE COULD LITERALLY STOP ME FROM MY ABILITY TO BUY OR SELL.THIS IS NO MENTAL THOUGHT.............. A THOUGHT CAN BE FORGOTTEN THE NEXT DAY.IF I REFUSE THE MARK OF THE BEAST...................I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL....................HENCE...I WILL END UP HOMELESS, AND HUNGRY......YET IF I TAKE IT SO I CAN ENJOY THIS LIFE A LITTLE LONGER IN CREATURE COMFORT STYLE.........I WILL SPEND ALL ETERNITY IN HELL...............FOR THE SAKE OF MY OWN PERSONAL PLEASURE AND DESIRES.THE ANSWER IS..................NO.....................I WOULD GLADLY GO THE GUILLOTINE WHICH IS THE CHOICE OF DEATH FOR THOSE THAT REFUSE TO WORSHIP THE BEAST AND TAKE HIS MARK.IN THE END.................I WILL SPEND ETERNITY WITH JESUS.....PRAISE JESUS.............FOR HE SAID.Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.SEE THESE SAINTS WERE BEHEADED FOR NOT TAKING A MARK.... NO ONE WAS MIND READING.................IT WILL BE; EITHER YOU IS.... OR YOU ISN’T... A FOLLOWER..........OF THE ANTICHRIST.
     
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    SEE THESE SAINTS WERE BEHEADED FOR NOT TAKING A MARK.... NO ONE WAS MIND READING.................IT WILL BE; EITHER YOU IS.... OR YOU ISN’T... A FOLLOWER..........OF THE ANTICHRIST.
    Just for taking a mark? I see several other reasons there. They were beheaded because they witnessed; we've seen this all throughout history with the false religions out there. Others of these didn't worship the beast; certainly this can mean anything from devil worship to worshiping any form of false god which are all satan's creations.I also remember from another thread where you talk about the seal of God not being physical. Well, from your own statements there, and those of the Bible (more importantly) we see that this mark is a mark God can read and who do you think is doing the judging here? God can read minds, he knows your thoughts and actions. All of them.
     
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    Just for taking a mark? I see several other reasons there. They were beheaded because they witnessed; we've seen this all throughout history with the false religions out there. Others of these didn't worship the beast; certainly this can mean anything from devil worship to worshiping any form of false god which are all satan's creations.I also remember from another thread where you talk about the seal of God not being physical. Well, from your own statements there, and those of the Bible (more importantly) we see that this mark is a mark God can read and who do you think is doing the judging here? God can read minds, he knows your thoughts and actions. All of them.
    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.I stand on scripture................Gods seal is seen by God Himself, His angels and the fallen ones.Yet we Saved; know one another in the Lord when we are amongst one another.........Through the light that is in us..............we connect in the spirit of Jesus.Romans 15:13 and the God of the hope shall fill you with all joy and peace in the believing, for your abounding in the hope in power of the Holy Spirit.
     
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    I stand on scripture................Gods seal is seen by God Himself, His angels and the fallen ones.
    Conversely, those that do not have the seal of God in their foreheads, bare the other mark of satan in them because they think and do his work and not the Lords that those with the seal do.
    Yet we Saved; know one another in the Lord when we are amongst one another......... Through the light that is in us..............we connect in the spirit of Jesus.
    Correct. That's spiritual discernment that God grants us when we put our trust in him. We know when things are right and we know when things are wrong. However, don't take this to mean that all Christians have it, because they don't.
     
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    Conversely, those that do not have the seal of God in their foreheads, bare the other mark of satan in them because they think and do his work and not the Lords that those with the seal do.I was a fence rider...........as are many.I was not a child of the devil...........nor a child of God......Naturally if I had died unsaved I would go to Hell. My name not in the Lambs Book of Life. Perhaps there was some mark on me...... of satan.............? I don't know at this moment............... I did not have the mark of God.Correct. That's spiritual discernment that God grants us when we put our trust in him. We know when things are right and we know when things are wrong. However, don't take this to mean that all Christians have it, because they don't.
    If one lacks the Holy Spirit within..............then one is not saved.
     
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    And therefore they accept the mark of the beast because they certainly are not doing the Lord's work (though the Lord can use them in His own mighty way).
     
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