MATTHEW 25:31 SHEEP AND GOATS

[Doug]

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:


This is the Lord Jesus Christ coming to establish the prophetic, Davidic kingdom promised to the Israel of God, the little flock. Jesus will sit and reign on David's throne. Luke 12:32 Luke 1:32 Isaiah 9:7 Psalm 22:28

25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

This is the judgement of the nations after the tribulation. All the nations will be gathered before him. He will seperate the nations as being sheep or goats.

25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

The nations, the sheep that blessed Israel in the tribulation, will enter the kingdom along with the righteous remnant of Israel. Israel will be a light to the Gentiles for salvation. Isaiah 49:6 Isaiah 2:2 Matthew 25:35

25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

 

[Episkopos]

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:


This is the Lord Jesus Christ coming to establish the prophetic, Davidic kingdom promised to the Israel of God, the little flock. Jesus will sit and reign on David's throne. Luke 12:32 Luke 1:32 Isaiah 9:7 Psalm 22:28

25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

This is the judgement of the nations after the tribulation. All the nations will be gathered before him. He will seperate the nations as being sheep or goats.

25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

The nations, the sheep that blessed Israel in the tribulation, will enter the kingdom along with the righteous remnant of Israel. Israel will be a light to the Gentiles for salvation. Isaiah 49:6 Isaiah 2:2 Matthew 25:35

25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

The sheep are people from all nations who loved and cared for the brethren of Jesus among them. God's people are spiritual Israel. This is across all ethnicities, tribes and languages.
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[BreadOfLife]

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

This is the Lord Jesus Christ coming to establish the prophetic, Davidic kingdom promised to the Israel of God, the little flock. Jesus will sit and reign on David's throne. Luke 12:32 Luke 1:32 Isaiah 9:7 Psalm 22:28

25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

This is the judgement of the nations after the tribulation. All the nations will be gathered before him. He will seperate the nations as being sheep or goats.

25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

The nations, the sheep that blessed Israel in the tribulation, will enter the kingdom along with the righteous remnant of Israel. Israel will be a light to the Gentiles for salvation. Isaiah 49:6 Isaiah 2:2 Matthew 25:35

25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

This is about the general Judgement of ALL people at the end.
It is about the DAY of the Lord (Matt. 12:36, Rom. 2:16, 1 Cor. 3:10-15, 1 Cor. 4-5, 2 Cor. 5:10, Rev. 20:11-15).

 

[Davy]

Christ's future Kingdom involves those chosen before the foundation of the world, and that definitely is about the chosen from ALL nations and peoples who believe on Him. And you know what? That body is called His Church. God's Israel is His Church.

 

[101G]

Addressing the OP only, and not saying that any are right or wrong. but consider this.

in the two preceding parables what is being signified? ... the Gospel church state all sorts of Christian, or so called. these are not wolves in sheep clothings, (evils one), no but goats, some spotted and speckled, (see Genesis 30:27-37).

and with the ten virgins, the title stated correctly "wise" and "foolish". Oh how foolish was those five to go and buy, when they need not to buy. for there is a way that seem right unto a man, but that way is death and destruction. only if the five foolish whould have read, (Isaiah chapter 55).

Just only to consider.

PICJAG.

 

[Episkopos]

Addressing the OP only, and not saying that any are right or wrong. but consider this.

in the two preceding parables what is being signified? ... the Gospel church state all sorts of Christian, or so called. these are not wolves in sheep clothings, (evils one), no but goats, some spotted and speckled, (see Genesis 30:27-37).

and with the ten virgins, the title stated correctly "wise" and "foolish". Oh how foolish was those five to go and buy, when they need not to buy. for there is a way that seem right unto a man, but that way is death and destruction. only if the five foolish whould have read, (Isaiah chapter 55).

Just only to consider.

PICJAG.

Apples and oranges. The sheep/goat judgment is for the world. The 10 virgins is about the followers of Christ.

 

[Davy]

The sheep represent Christ's Church. Those trying to assign them as Gentile nations only are confused, likely because of a wrong belief on a pre-trib rapture. When Jesus comes to gather His Church, that is when He sits on His throne on earth to judge the sheep from the goats. It's just another way to stating the separation of Rev.22:14-15...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV

Outside the holy city, is where the 'goats' will be separated to. That is what our Lord called the "outer darkness", where there will be crying and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Episkopos]

The sheep represent Christ's Church. Those trying to assign them as Gentile nations only are confused, likely because of a wrong belief on a pre-trib rapture. When Jesus comes to gather His Church, that is when He sits on His throne on earth to judge the sheep from the goats. It's just another way to stating the separation of Rev.22:14-15...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV

Outside the holy city, is where the 'goats' will be separated to. That is what our Lord called the "outer darkness", where there will be crying and gnashing of teeth.

This is way off....

The sheep did not recognize the Lord's brethren yet did them well. That means they are not OF the brethren themselves. Think on it. Jesus says MY brethren...not YOUR brethren.

We will ALL be judged by our deeds....not beliefs.

 

[Waiting on him]

Matthew 12:49-50 KJV
[49] And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! [50] For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Tecarta Bible

 

[bbyrd009]

Christ's future Kingdom involves those chosen before the foundation of the world, and that definitely is about the chosen from ALL nations and peoples who believe on Him. And you know what? That body is called His Church. God's Israel is His Church.

If you take 'future' out I'll give that a like :)

 

[bbyrd009]

Outside the holy city, is where the 'goats' will be separated to.

"are" separated to, at least, ya

 

[bbyrd009]

14 Blessed are they that do
15 For without are dogs

 

[Waiting on him]

14 Blessed are they that do
15 For without are dogs

Psalm 22:16 KJV
[16] For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

Tecarta Bible

 

[101G]

Apples and oranges. The sheep/goat judgment is for the world. The 10 virgins is about the followers of Christ.

The sheep/goat Judgment is for the world? but for who in the world. let's see. Matthew 13:24 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 "But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 "But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.Matthew 13:27 "So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?Matthew 13:28 "He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 "But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn".

done deal on the Tares.

the 10 virgins. "followers of Christ?". many follo.w christ, but are not "IN" christ. just as many followe the church, but are not in her. 5 wise, 5 foolish. the oil is the POWER of God, the Holy Ghost, and many was decieved in the begining in mens eyes, but now are shipwreck. and many of them thought they had the Holy Ghost. supportive scripture, Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? but what did God say? 2 Thessalonians 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

the judgment is, to distinguish true Christians and real believers.

and those who went to buy, just as Simon the sorcerer, a great seducer of the people. someone started a topic as to what would deceive the people, even some in the church. listen, Acts 8:18 "And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
Acts 8:19 "Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:20 "But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. (what did Isaiah 55 say... buy with no money).
Acts 8:21 "Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
Acts 8:22 "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
Acts 8:23 "For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
Acts 8:24 "Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.
Acts 8:25 "And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.

PICJAG.




many think they can buy the Holy Ghost, not by phyical money only, but through schools, and degrees, buy the degree.

 

[Davy]

This is way off....

The sheep did not recognize the Lord's brethren yet did them well. That means they are not OF the brethren themselves. Think on it. Jesus says MY brethren...not YOUR brethren.

We will ALL be judged by our deeds....not beliefs.

No, that is not a doctrine taught in that Matthew 25 Scripture. Don't listen to the doctrines of men that cause confusion.

Those for whom the kingdom has been prepared "from the foundation of the world" are Christ's elect, His sheep of John 10.

Matt 25:34
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
KJV

Eph 1:4-5
4 According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
KJV

That is about ALL... believers on The Father through His Son Jesus Christ, i.e., His many-membered body, His Church.

 

[Episkopos]

No, that is not a doctrine taught in that Matthew 25 Scripture. Don't listen to the doctrines of men that cause confusion.

Those for whom the kingdom has been prepared "from the foundation of the world" are Christ's elect, His sheep of John 10.

Matt 25:34
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
KJV

Eph 1:4-5
4 According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
KJV

That is about ALL... believers on The Father through His Son Jesus Christ, i.e., His many-membered body, His Church.

You aren't getting the spiritual difference between Israel in eternity and the nations in eternity. There are 2 resurrections...and the sheep/goats in the second general resurrection of all nations.

The saints partake of the first resurrection...which is the better resurrection we are to strive for. These saints rule with Christ.

The only confusion is the separate sheep of John 10. There are 2 sheepfolds.

The saints of God rule over the nations of them that are saved.

 

[Doug]

No, that is not a doctrine taught in that Matthew 25 Scripture. Don't listen to the doctrines of men that cause confusion.

Those for whom the kingdom has been prepared "from the foundation of the world" are Christ's elect, His sheep of John 10.

Matt 25:34
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
KJV

Eph 1:4-5
4 According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
KJV

That is about ALL... believers on The Father through His Son Jesus Christ, i.e., His many-membered body, His Church.

Hi

The passages that speak in regard to the foundation of the world are illuminating:

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34

The Davidic kingdom for Israel was prepared FROM the foundation.

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4

The body of Christ, Jew and Gentile, was chosen BEFORE the foundation.

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, Romans 16:25

The mystery revealed to Paul was kept secret since the world began.

 

[Jay Ross]

You aren't getting the spiritual difference between Israel in eternity and the nations in eternity. There are 2 resurrections...and the sheep/goats in the second general resurrection of all nations.

The saints partake of the first resurrection...which is the better resurrection we are to strive for. These saints rule with Christ.

The only confusion is the separate sheep of John 10. There are 2 sheepfolds.

The saints of God rule over the nations of them that are saved.

Your interpretation of what grace can do for you reflects your heart's desire for Greatness, but Christs requirement for His disciples is for them to have the heart of a servant and to be content in the lowest of places from which they can be invited to the head table during the wedding feast, not to rule as you desire, but to spend time in God's presences worshipping Him.

 

[Davy]

You aren't getting the spiritual difference between Israel in eternity and the nations in eternity. There are 2 resurrections...and the sheep/goats in the second general resurrection of all nations.

The saints partake of the first resurrection...which is the better resurrection we are to strive for. These saints rule with Christ.

The only confusion is the separate sheep of John 10. There are 2 sheepfolds.

The saints of God rule over the nations of them that are saved.

You forget a major RULE. When our Lord Jesus links the terms about His "sheep" with His kingdom prepared for them "from the foundation of the world", He is speaking of His Church.

Those of the "first resurrection" of Rev.20 are His chosen elect. Those did not bow to the beast, nor take his mark, and also includes His saints all the way back into OT history.

There will be a 'second resurrection' unto eternal life in Jesus, but it will not happen during the 1,000 years. It will happen for those during His millennium reign that believe on Him. They are joined with the first resurrection on the day of GWT Judgment.

Because a 1st resurrection is declared, an ordinal number given with it, that automatically means at least one more resurrection LIKE IT. The devil's children are busy trying to push the lie that other resurrection is the 'dead' who are only raised at the GWT Judgment to be thrown into the lake of fire. No, the second resurrection is unto eternal life in Jesus Christ, and only involves those who believed during the 1,000 years. Their souls will not have put on immortality like the first resurrection until the 1,000 years is over. In that future time, when there is no more flesh death, to live - means to have put on immortality in Christ Jesus; this because there still is a "second death" that one's soul can go into, which is the casting into the "lake of fire" at the end of the 1,000 years.