Melchisedec and How Jesus Learned Obedience and was Made Perfect.

[robert derrick]

So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Christ was name Melchisedec while in human form.

He first appeared to bless Abram after the slaughter of the kings.

Abraham knew it was the Lord, when He came with two others to spy out Sodom. How did He know? Because he had seen Him before after the slaughter of the kings.

Jacob did not know who He was that he wrestled with, because he had not seen Him as His father Abraham had: Melchisedec.

When the God of Israel was become flesh, then He was no longer called Melchisedec but Jesus, who is made after the days of His flesh Melchisedec in heaven, an high priest forever after His order.

Melchisedec wrestled with Jacob, that he might bless him. Christ wrestled with Jacob, to teach him the fear of the Lord: to know that it is not by might, nor by power nor by will of man, but by the Spirit of the Lord, that we have power with God.

Jacob learned in a no-win wrestling match with the Lord in form of man, that there was someone he could not outwit, out-play, nor over-power by the flesh, and so he was named Israel, having power with God to prevail. Not to prevail over the Lord, but to learn to prevail over himself, and to trust only in the Lord by faith.

When Melchisedec became flesh, to be a man made of a woman, He also learned obedience, as did Jacob, in a no-win wrestling match with the Father, who would never consent to disannulling His commandment to His Son to lay down His life for man on the cross.

Jesus as a man, made of flesh according to the seed of David, learned the same obedience as Jacob in that night in Gethsemane: though the infirmity of flesh is weak, yet the spirit is willing, therefore we are to follow after the Spirit in obedience to God, and not give in to the weakness of the flesh.

Melchisedec in the form of a man, later named Jesus in the flesh, learned the obedience of Jacob, which opportunity was provided to him by wrestling all the night through: There is no overcoming God, as Adam might have supposed, but in Christ there is only overcoming our own flesh in obedience to the Father, which we have by the faith of Jesus, the Son of God, made an high priest after the order of Melchisedec, being made perfect through the things which He suffered, and so became the Author of eternal salvation for all them that learn to obey Him, even as He learned to obey the Father, despite the weak infirmity of His flesh.

The lesson Jesus learned in the garden, was the lesson He taught as Melchisedec to Jacob on the plain of Mahanaim:

Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.

God is not looking for the mighty in knowledge and skill, nor to them in understanding of all mysteries, but only to them that will purify their hearts, even as He is pure, by the same faith of obedience of Jesus unto the cross,and so be counted worthy to inhabit immortality in spiritual bodies.

We are the children of Abraham by the faith of Jesus in the heart, and we are the children of Israel by obeying Him from the heart.

Only them that learn obedience to the faith, as did Jacob all night long, and as did Jesus in the night, will inherit eternal salvation in the resurrection of the church unto eternal life. without shame.

 

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He also learned obedience, as did Jacob, in a no-win wrestling match with the Father, who would never consent to disannulling His commandment to His Son to lay down His life for man on the cross.

Jesus as a man, made of flesh according to the seed of David, learned the same obedience as Jacob in that night in Gethsemane: though the infirmity of flesh is weak, yet the spirit is willing, therefore we are to follow after the Spirit in obedience to God, and not give in to the weakness of the flesh.

this is implying that Jesus' heart was full of rebellion against the commandment.
but **thank goodness* He was able to overcome His sinful desires in the corruption of His flesh?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

this is implying that Jesus' heart was full of rebellion against the commandment.
but **thank goodness* He was able to overcome His sinful desires in the corruption of His flesh?

This would not be a good thing. Jesus had no rebellion. He had no flesh nature and was nit separated from God as we were at birth

 

[post]

may i suggest we look closer at this entry in Thayer's:

STRONGS NT 3129: μανθάνω
μανθάνω; 2 aorist ἔμαθον; perfect participle μεμαθηκώς; the Sept. for לָמַד; (from Homer down)
...
c. to learn by use and practice; (in the preterite) to be in the habit of, accustomed to: followed by an infinitive, 1 Timothy 5:; Titus 3:14; Philippians 4:11 (Aeschylus Prom. 1068; Xenophon, an. 3, 2, 25); ἔμαθεν ἀφ' ὧν ἔπαθε τήν ὑπακοήν, Hebrews 5:8
​

what Hebrews 5:8 literally says is that 'though being a Son, He was in the habit of obedience through suffering'

ask yourself why 'though being a Son' is there?
because sons don't have to be obedient? nope!
because sons do not suffer as servants do, yet He was accustomed to suffering, a man of sorrows & acquainted with grief. He humbled Himself and took on the form of a servant - bearing our infirmities. in Him is no infirmity, no sin!

 

[robert derrick]

this is implying that Jesus' heart was full of rebellion against the commandment.
but **thank goodness* He was able to overcome His sinful desires in the corruption of His flesh?

Trying to refute a teaching by thoroughly misreading it is worthless. Try again.

You don't like the teaching, and that's fine. Just say so.

 

[robert derrick]

may i suggest we look closer at this entry in Thayer's:

STRONGS NT 3129: μανθάνω
μανθάνω; 2 aorist ἔμαθον; perfect participle μεμαθηκώς; the Sept. for לָמַד; (from Homer down)
...
c. to learn by use and practice; (in the preterite) to be in the habit of, accustomed to: followed by an infinitive, 1 Timothy 5:; Titus 3:14; Philippians 4:11 (Aeschylus Prom. 1068; Xenophon, an. 3, 2, 25); ἔμαθεν ἀφ' ὧν ἔπαθε τήν ὑπακοήν, Hebrews 5:8
​

what Hebrews 5:8 literally says is that 'though being a Son, He was in the habit of obedience through suffering'

ask yourself why 'though being a Son' is there?
because sons don't have to be obedient? nope!
because sons do not suffer as servants do, yet He was accustomed to suffering, a man of sorrows & acquainted with grief. He humbled Himself and took on the form of a servant - bearing our infirmities. in Him is no infirmity, no sin!

though being a Son, He was in the habit of obedience through suffering

Going to Greek to change Scripture is always the habit for learning false doctrine.

Though he were a son, yet learned he obedience by the ghings which he suffered.

Jesus was tempted to disobey the Father, and have legions of angels to rescue Him from the false arrest and punishment now set in motion by His ministry. He was also tempted to come down from the cross by their mocking demand He do so, but instead answered them not according to their folly:

And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads. And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.

He was heared in His prayers to be relieved of the commandment, because He feared failing to obey, because He was tempted not to.

The Lord God Almighty learned the fear of the Lord by becoming a man in the flesh, and so He learned to overcome temptation by faith through the Spirit, and so was made perfect by obedience amidst the sufferings.

because sons don't have to be obedient? nope!

Rebellious sons such as yourself, nope. But good and righteous elect sons and saints of God, like Jesus, obey the Father, until they obtain the inheritance of the Father: eternal salvation is only for them that obey Him.

because sons do not suffer as servants do.

With the world sons are chastised and servants are beaten. But with the Father all are judged the same with sin: the soul which sinneth it shall die.

He humbled Himself and took on the form of a servant.

And becoming sons, so do we after His example.

You reject Scripture and the teaching that Jesus was not tempted in all points like as we, yet without sin, because you are likewise tempted, yet with sin.

You fantasize to yourself a Jesus that did not exist. You tell yourself He was without sin, because He was not tempted to do so.

You do so in order to excuse your sins as 'justified', because unlike He in the flesh, you are tempted by your flesh.

As sons like He, we are to overcome the whole world of temptation and sins, even as He did in the flesh and so condemned sin of the flesh, by purifying our hearts of lust and cleansing our minds of thoughts to sin. We are made perfect as He by learning to obey God in our hearts and in pour minds, that we might not obey sin in our flesh.

We are not yet perfect, in that we still have thoughts of sin of the flesh trying to invade the mind and to plant lust back in the heart, but by the fear of the Lord Jesus, we cast down such vain and evil imaginations to keep our hearts pure, and our minds subject to the law of Christ, and so our bodies are kept under subjection, not to obey the law of sin in the flesh.

You speak of being tempted as having a heart full of rebellion, which is a lie. Being tempted is not the sin, but having lust in the heart drawn to sin, when tempted, is the sin of an unpurified heart of disobedience and rebellion to God.

You tell yourself you are only human in that you are tempted with lust in the heart, which is true. You are only human, which is not the case for elect saints in Christ, whose hearts are purified from lust, perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord, though yet still tempted by the flesh, but without committing the sins of the flesh and walking them.

The elect saints being made perfect through obedience in the fear of the Lord are not yet perfect, in that we must continue the good fight to obey God in our hearts and minds and bodies. In the first resurrection of the saints, then they will have perfect minds and bodies with no more need to fight temptation of sin of the flesh.

 

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Behold, your God will come with vengeance,
the recompense of God;
He will come and save you.
Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened,
and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
Then the lame shall leap like a deer,
and the tongue of the dumb sing:
for waters shall burst forth in the wilderness,
and streams in the desert!
(Isaiah 35:4-6)​

it is written
the God of Israel will come twice:
to save, and again with vengeance & recompense.
when?
when the eyes of the blind are opened & the ears of the deaf are unstopped;
when the lame walk and the dumb speak;
when waters and streams spring up in the wilderness & the desert.

Jesus answered and said to them,
Go and tell John the things you have seen and heard:
that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear,
the dead are raised, the poor have the gospel preached to them!
(Luke 7:22)​

the God of Israel came once.
He will come again, and your knee will bow before Him, as God.
everything in heaven and on earth bows before Him, and confesses He is Lord
all His creation - all His inheritance, the Lord of Hosts

blessed is the one who does not fall because of The Stumbling Stone. ((v.23))
blessed is the one who prostrates before Him

 

[post]

Jacob shall not now be ashamed,
nor shall his face now grow pale;
but when he sees his children,
the work of My hands, in his midst,
they will hallow My name,
and hallow the Holy One of Jacob,
and fear the God of Israel.
These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding,
and those who complained will learn doctrine.
(Isaiah 29:22-24)​

the Son of Jacob, the work of God's hands, is His Name, The Holy One, the God of Israel

when will Jacob be ashamed? when they recognize Him, the One they pierced:

I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.
(Zechariah 12:9-14)​

the God of Jacob is the work of God's hands
the God of Jacob is The Name of God
the God of Jacob is The Holy One
the God of Israel is The One whom they pierced
Christ is Whom they pierced, the God of Israel.

the house of David will recognize the God of Israel, Whom they pierced, and mourn:
that is when those who have erred in Spirit will come to understanding.
that day is when those who complain will learn doctrine:
the day Christ returns and every knee bows, and every tongue confesses
He will come with the clouds, The Almighty, the Ancient of Days, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting
One God, and His Name, One

 

[robert derrick]

This would not be a good thing. Jesus had no rebellion. He had no flesh nature and was nit separated from God as we were at birth

And so the filthy grace believers openly come out against learning obedience, not only for themselves, but also for Jesus.

You can keep tag teaming yourself with many likes, being likeminded in sin, but it doesn't do away with the truth:

Jesus learning obedience in the flesh through the fear of the Lord, and so shall His elect saints who are counted worthy obtain His eternal salvation, and walk with Him in white forever.

Today is the day of being made perfect in white through learning obedience and perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord.

Those who wait for their souls being made white at death, while continuing in sin of the flesh today, will die in their sins like any other soul on earth.

Jesus had no rebellion. He had no flesh nature and was not separated from God as we were at birth.

He came in the flesh, but without sin of the flesh in His soul.

Even as elect saints are become in new creatures, no more born of sin, no more having the nature of sin in the soul. But rather today being born of God to purify the heart and cleanse the mind and overcome sin in the flesh, even as Jesus did.

Sinners excuse their continued life of sin by an unclean and rebellious heart full of lust, because they reject the power of God through His Spirit, and so are yet of sinful nature being born of the flesh only, even as at birth into the world.

There are no saved sinners, nor are they being saved in Christ, nor will they obtain eternal salvation in the resurrection of life.

And them believing in a carnal salvation with sin, excuse themselves like all sinners, by believing in a filthy grace that covers over their sins, rather than the grace of God that helps His saints to overcome lust in the heart and sin in the body.

They believe in a blood that whitewashes their souls, and does not wash their souls clean of sins.

They believe so, because they are blinded by the blind god of this world, who refuses to see their sins, because he likes them, even as they do.

This would not be a good thing.

Refusing to learn the obedience of God, as Jesus did, is not the good way to go on to perfection and obtain His eternal salvation.

That would not be the good thing at all.

 

[robert derrick]

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name.

With His incorruptible seed in His saints, who have the mind of Christ, who are made in His image after the new man, it is not robbery for the elect to be equal with the Son of God, in humbling themselves as He did, to be made in the likeness of His righteousness by obedience to Him in all things unto death, as he did with the Father.

Them and them only will God highly exalt in the resurrection of His likeness.

 

[dev553344]

I'm not going to get involved in this but watched this last night and it helped me understand more, so will share incase it helps.


Not that the writings were "true," but because understanding the Jewish culture and the traditions at the time, helps give an understanding of what the authors were saying for their time for a clearer interpretation.

Good video, that person seems to understand what he studied. I also enjoy the dead sea scrolls and 2 Enoch as it has the exact image that I saw when I saw God myself. I told some people about it and felt like an idiot like no one believed me. Then I found 2 Enoch and to my surprise it was exactly what I saw. It made me feel better that I wasn't the only one.

 

[robert derrick]

I'm not going to get involved in this but watched this last night and it helped me understand more, so will share incase it helps.


Not that the writings were "true," but because understanding the Jewish culture and the traditions at the time, helps give an understanding of what the authors were saying for their time for a clearer interpretation.

because understanding the Jewish culture and the traditions at the time, helps give an understanding of what the authors were saying for their time for a clearer interpretation.

Of course the apostles weren't speaking as Jewish culture and tradition 'authors'.

The Jewish culture and traditions of the day put Jesus to death.

The apostles were speaking as the prophets of old, by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, but no longer speaking to the believers of the Old Covenant, but to them of the New.

And they weren't speaking 'for the time', no more than the prophets of old were only speaking for their time: All Scripture is given of God by inspiration of the Holy Ghost for all time, not just 'Jewish time':

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Where are these words of Scripture for their time only?? What? They're not written for us today?

The apostles were not 'Jewish authors', nor authors at all, but chosen Christians to speak and write the doctrine of the Author of eternal salvation for all them that obey Him: Jesus Christ. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Not Paul, nor Peter, nor James...God bless 'em:

Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

Jesus as a man was Jew. Jesus Christ as the risen God of Israel is the Christian Head of Christians.

The apostles chosen by Jesus Christ were Christians writing doctrine of Christ to Scriptures. Hello!

Why do Christians get all wrapped up in that failed Jewish traditions and myths anyway?

Because it is tantalizing to the ears of intellect:

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

So, I'll pass. I don't need to hear any poop from the Pope, nor any fascinating Jewish scholarship from them that have no clue what they are talking about in the doctrine of the apostles and of Christ:

Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

If someone needs help in believing and obeying Jesus from unbelieving Jews of His days in the flesh, they are looking for love of God in all the wrong places.

 

[robert derrick]

Good video, that person seems to understand what he studied. I also enjoy the dead sea scrolls and 2 Enoch as it has the exact image that I saw when I saw God myself. I told some people about it and felt like an idiot like no one believed me. Then I found 2 Enoch and to my surprise it was exactly what I saw. It made me feel better that I wasn't the only one.

I saw when I saw God myself.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

No, you yourself didn't see God Himself. That will not be until the world to come in the eternal future. So be patient.

Then I found 2 Enoch and to my surprise it was exactly what I saw.

If you read in 2 Enoch a vision you saw, then no problem.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

So long as what we see doesn't tell us other than the scriptures about Jesus, then what we see is our own business.

And 2 Enoch don't count. The only Enoch of truth is that given by Jude.

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us.

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

This is about being made perfect in obedience to Jesus. So long as our vision does not lead to disobedience of the law and doctrine of Christ, then it shouldn't matter to us whether others believe it or not.

For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

There is no doubt Mohomet was spoken to by an angel in a cave, but since that angel told him Jesus was not the Son of God, then that angel was a fallen one, and Mohammed is his false prophet of a false god.

 

[dev553344]

I saw when I saw God myself.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

No, you yourself didn't see God Himself. That will not be until the world to come in the eternal future. So be patient.

Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

 

[DuckieLady]

because understanding the Jewish culture and the traditions at the time, helps give an understanding of what the authors were saying for their time for a clearer interpretation.

Of course the apostles weren't speaking as Jewish culture and tradition 'authors'.

The Jewish culture and traditions of the day put Jesus to death.

The apostles were speaking as the prophets of old, by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, but no longer speaking to the believers of the Old Covenant, but to them of the New.

And they weren't speaking 'for the time', no more than the prophets of old were only speaking for their time: All Scripture is given of God by inspiration of the Holy Ghost for all time, not just 'Jewish time':

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Where are these words of Scripture for their time only?? What? They're not written for us today?

The apostles were not 'Jewish authors', nor authors at all, but chosen Christians to speak and write the doctrine of the Author of eternal salvation for all them that obey Him: Jesus Christ. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Not Paul, nor Peter, nor James...God bless 'em:

Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

Jesus as a man was Jew. Jesus Christ as the risen God of Israel is the Christian Head of Christians.

The apostles chosen by Jesus Christ were Christians writing doctrine of Christ to Scriptures. Hello!

Why do Christians get all wrapped up in that failed Jewish traditions and myths anyway?

Because it is tantalizing to the ears of intellect:

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

So, I'll pass. I don't need to hear any poop from the Pope, nor any fascinating Jewish scholarship from them that have no clue what they are talking about in the doctrine of the apostles and of Christ:

Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

If someone needs help in believing and obeying Jesus from unbelieving Jews of His days in the flesh, they are looking for love of God in all the wrong places.

I think you misunderstood what I meant in a big way but that's okay. It doesn't really matter.

Just nevermind for your end.

 

[robert derrick]

Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Yes in the resurrection and eternal future, when they come to the Father through the Son.

Not yet. Not doubting your vision, but you didn't see God. And if the vision did not teach faith and obedience to Christ according to the Scriptures, then it was a false one.

And if your vision was inspiring to the faith and obedience of Jesus Christ, then it doesn't matter if anyone believes you or not.

Anything not according to Scripture is false, whether by word, letter, or spirit.

You don't want to get caught up in angel worship like them of Mary, always looking for signs in the cloud, trees, statues, or Texas gas toilets.

 

[robert derrick]

I think you misunderstood what I meant in a big way but that's okay. It doesn't really matter.

Just nevermind for your end.

No, I understand it perfectly. Whether in doctrine or prophecy, Christians get caught up in a bunch of old 'Jewish' stuff, which Paul warned against.

So, you want to think of the Christian apostles of Jesus Christ authoring a bunch of stuff from their old traditions and customs that had Christ crucified, go ahead.

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

The risen God of Israel no more has anything to do with old Jewish stuff, and old Jewish stuff no longer has anything to do with the God of Israel.

Now, if you're just interested in old Jewish customs and stuff, by all means have at it, and maybe you can try posting about that stuff elsewhere. This is a thread about the perfecting of Christians. Which needs nothing from old Jewish stuff, and only gets in the way of the perfecting of the saints in Christ Jesus.

 

[DuckieLady]

No, I understand it perfectly. Whether in doctrine or prophecy, Christians get caught up in a bunch of old 'Jewish' stuff, which Paul warned against.

So, you want to think of the Christian apostles of Jesus Christ authoring a bunch of stuff from their old traditions and customs that had Christ crucified, go ahead.

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

The risen God of Israel no more has anything to do with old Jewish stuff, and old Jewish stuff no longer has anything to do with the God of Israel.

Now, if you're just interested in old Jewish customs and stuff, by all means have at it, and maybe you can try posting about that stuff elsewhere. This is a thread about the perfecting of Christians. Which needs nothing from old Jewish stuff, and only gets in the way of the perfecting of the saints in Christ Jesus.

K

Sorry I'd make a better effort to explain it, but I don't really plan on being here much longer, so I'm not as passionate as you are right now.

I'll just delete it so you can feel better.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

And so the filthy grace believers openly come out against learning obedience, not only for themselves, but also for Jesus.

lol
I person only needs 5to learn obedience when they are disobedient.

Christ never sinned a day in his life. Because he KNEW how to be obedient. He NEVER sought to serve self. He NEVER put his needs own others, and he NEVER took his eye off what is important. To love others.

Jesus was born able to love. We can’t love, because we are born lost. In the flesh having to do whatever we can do fill the hole left by the fall. Jesus had his fathers love from birth. So had had the ability to love

We can’t love UNTIL we are first loved by him (through salvation) so we have no capacity to be obedient servants.

Anyone can obey a command, But only those born of God can be obedient.

You need to take your focus off self man, and put it n Christ. And stop blaming people who put their focus on christ for making you look bad because you refuse to acknowledge your sin, while they in humility look up to God in faith and with the knowledge of where they belong. Serve God in love

Any day we wake up and we are not in hell is a great day, Because that is where we deserve to be.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

K

Sorry I'd make a better effort to explain it, but I don't really plan on being here much longer, so I'm not as passionate as you are right now.

I'll just delete it so you can feel better.

Sometimes it is better to just let it go. Some peopel just can not hear what others are saying, and it gets frustrating