Misreading Paul through Luther

[Episkopos]

All institutions, you mean like the church? So there's no true church? I've found lots of true believers among various denominations.

But these believers are supporting the wrong thing. They are captured by false promises. They are captive in Babylon....and no threat to the prince of this world,

 

[Renniks]

But these believers are supporting the wrong thing. They are captured by false promises. They are captive in Babylon....and no threat to the prince of this world,

Supporting your local church is the wrong thing? False promises? You mean the ones Jesus made? Such as never leaving us? And how would you know who is a threat to Satan?

 

[Episkopos]

Supporting your local church is the wrong thing? False promises? You mean the ones Jesus made? Such as never leaving us? And how would you know who is a threat to Satan?

The Holy Spirit sets up God's churches. And these have no name....they are simply brethren coming together by the Spirit. Man can't just try to emulate the book of Acts in his own strength expecting God to support that effort.

So then the very people who claim to NOT be saved by works...organize their own churches in an effort to try advancing the kingdom....by works.

 

[Renniks]

The Holy Spirit sets up God's churches. And these have no name....they are simply brethren coming together by the Spirit. Man can't just try to emulate the book of Acts in his own strength expecting God to support that effort.

So then the very people who claim to NOT be saved by works...organize their own churches in an effort to try advancing the kingdom....by works.

So if a church is organized it can't be a true church? That's absurd. The Spirit works in all kinds of churches.