MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

[PeterAndroz]

I politely asked a question and you ignored me, Peter.

As for your question asked here, I do not know the answer ... I will tell you when it happens ... if we're both still here!

But my speculation is that it will be something like what happens to Christian communities in countries like China and Iran today.

""I will tell you when it happens""

This needs to happen first before that discussion takes place
2 Thess 2
......and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God

If you believe & trust 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, the MOTB will never be a concern for you nor will you be exposed to it.

 

[markalan]

""I will tell you when it happens""

This needs to happen first before that discussion takes place

It was a very simple question ... I will take your refusal to answer as "IDK".

2 Thess 2
......and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God

If you believe & trust 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, the MOTB will never be a concern for you nor will you be exposed to it.

I think there will be Christians on earth at the time the "man of sin" is revealed ... but that leads into the "rapture" and "great tribulation" issues ... related but different topics.

 

[IndianaRob]

This is where it is important to understand the MOTB is not a literal physical mark (at least not only a physical mark) ... the "forehead" and the "right hand" indicate more than accepting a literal mark ... it is complete and willing submission to the antichrist spirit.

The hand represents a man’s works, the forehead is his way of thinking. Both of those in my opinion are related to biblical works and biblical thinking.

 

[David in NJ]

The whole point is just because a future saint decides to take the mark does not necessarily mean he is worshipping the beast.
eg If ALL your family, friends & people you knew where being shot dead in front of you one at a time until you took the "mark", would you take the 'mark' thereby willing to be like Moses who offered to have his name removed from the book of life so that the rest could be saved ?
Exod 32:32
Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

Good Morning
Please define "future saint"

 

[David in NJ]

It was a very simple question ... I will take your refusal to answer as "IDK".



I think there will be Christians on earth at the time the "man of sin" is revealed ... but that leads into the "rapture" and "great tribulation" issues ... related but different topics.

Always trust the LORD in every word HE speaks.

These are JESUS words in one sentence:
There will be Christians on earth at the time the "man of sin" is revealed ... and that follows the "falling away" and the "great tribulation"........directly related and same topic.

 

[David in NJ]

I walk into your store without a visible mark and offer you cash to buy an item.
How will you know whether you can safely trade with me ?
Rev 13:
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Have you permanently MARKED as yet?

No, becuase the Beast System is being built as we speak and when complete, 2 Thess chapter 2 & Revelation chs12-13 Begin.

 

[WPM]

If it's not a literal physical mark that everyone can see then how would any normal human that comes into brief contact with you know whether or not you can be traded with ?
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Because it is symbolic vernacular. Scripture is full of it.