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Exactly what Im talking about......My argument is a Human reasoning....Yall act like robots because you wont have some fun. You want to avoid everything. You dont know my heart nor intentions to play games.

Life really Sucks anyways, Whats the point of trying? To go to heaven and still be a slave? I Dont think so! God wants us to have some fun why dont you guys cheer up and stop being victims man. Be aware and careful that's all
Is this what people at this forum are saying to you (about not playing video games)? Man, then it really went downhill. I know I and some of my friends here started another forum and I visit here once in awhile yet, but I didn't think it was like this, at least not originally that I remember. If that's the case, maybe funky fundies came around lately. :D

Yeah, I party, and with my son's friends (this ol' baby boomer and generation Y a great combination) and we DO drink having some fun. We are responsible and nobody drives without the breathalyzer first, but I don't see the sin in the parties, either.

This is why I try to avoid the morality stuff (that is basic stuff), and lean more toward prophecy, and other biblically related subjects such as the lost ten tribes of Israel, the Great Pyramid, the Stars and such shedding additional light. It's not about dying and going to heaven or hell. It's about the Coming Kingdom of God, right here, on this earth--- if more people would stop worrying about their relationships and more about what's coming I think we'd have a better grasp on things.
 

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"if more people would stop worrying about their relationships and more about what's coming I think we'd have a better grasp on things."

Yes... who needs to worry about their relationship with Jesus... it is much more important to focus on his return when he judges those who he does not know. God created heaven and earth, he knows all and see's all... but what on earth makes Jesus think we need to listen to the words that came from his mouth?? Like Jesus can stop us from entering the Kingdom of heaven... silly Jesus.

Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."
 

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It's actually our relationship with everybody else that encourages people to put their guards down concerning Christianity. It's our relationship with Christ that gives us that assurance of salvation. It's our relationship with the Holy Spirit that sanctifies us. It's our relationship with God that humbles us.

True religion that is pleasing to God is all about relationships.
 

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country_lad said:
"if more people would stop worrying about their relationships and more about what's coming I think we'd have a better grasp on things."

Yes... who needs to worry about their relationship with Jesus... it is much more important to focus on his return when he judges those who he does not know. God created heaven and earth, he knows all and see's all... but what on earth makes Jesus think we need to listen to the words that came from his mouth?? Like Jesus can stop us from entering the Kingdom of heaven... silly Jesus.

Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."
In other words, stop worrying about oneself all the time and focus on Yahweh instead of oneself.

And I don't worry about my relationship with him. He does the choosing, not me. It's only my duty to respond if called. Maybe not everyone is called right now. There's more later on. The church is the firstfruits of salvation, those who rule and reign with Christ (Yahshua) while more get called later on, depending on the age.

Worrying about a guy playing video games is anything but keeping one's eyes on God. It's a form of one measuring themselves against another.
 

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Well, I follow scripture and scripture says to spread the word to the four corners of the earth. It also says to rebuke your brother. Why do you think Jesus was teaching the apostals to spead his word, why do you think Gods word was put into the bible for us to read? I am following the scripture when I speak Gods words, I am not doing it because I am focused on someone I don't even know rather than being focused on Jesus. Yes, of course I do care about you and Inmate but it is my relationship with Jesus that makes me care and his words that cause me to spend my very valuable time quoting scripture. Do I expect it to change your mind? not really, but when Jesus sent out his apostles to spread his teachings he did not expect everyone to listen and obey eather, that is why he says many will say Lord lord but few will enter the kingdom. I do say one thing though, Inmate hit the nail on the head when he said Jesus knows our hearts. He knows many people play russian roullette by thinking they can enjoy life now and worry about living for God tomorrow when it better suits them. He is not a sucker or stupid. If someone knows scripture they know the truth, there is an excuse for someone who does not know Gods words to not live right, but there is no excuse for someone who knows his teachings. Just like the parable of the virgins and the oil lamps, there is a reason he says he will come like a thief in the night. But I am not stupid ether, I know he only wants us to try so many times before we need to move on to someone else who may listen to his words. Best of luck in this life and the next, I mean that with a true heart.


Before I go, let me add I have nothing against video games. The game that Inmate loves so much is not your typical game. I would highly doubt many Christians find this stuff entertaining... not to mention funding these kind of things by buying it.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_%28series%29
Controversy
Former lawyer Jack Thompson has been involved in a number of attempts to get families of murder victims to hold the Grand Theft Auto series accountable for the death of their loved ones. Due to his conduct in this and related cases, Thompson was disbarred in 2008[40] and was fined more than $100,000 by the Florida Bar Association.[41]

On 20 October 2003, the families of Aaron Hamel and Kimberly Bede,
two young people shot by teens William and Josh Buckner (who in
statements to investigators claimed their actions were inspired by GTA III) filed a US$246 million lawsuit against publishers Rockstar Games, Take-Two Interactive Software, retailer Wal-Mart, and PlayStation 2 manufacturer Sony Computer Entertainment America.[42][43] Rockstar and its parent company, Take-Two, filed for dismissal of the lawsuit, stating in U.S. District Court
on 29 October 2003 that the "ideas and concepts as well as the
'purported psychological effects' on the Buckners are protected by the First Amendment's
free-speech clause". The lawyer of the victims, Jack Thompson, denied
that, but failed in his attempt to move the lawsuit into a state court
and under Tennessee's consumer protection act.[44] Two days later, the plaintiffs filed a Notice of Voluntary Dismissal, and the case was closed.

In February 2005, a lawsuit was brought upon the makers and distributors of the Grand Theft Auto series claiming the games caused a teenager to shoot and kill three members of the Alabama police force. The shooting took place in June 2003 when Devin Moore, 17 years old at the time, was taken in for questioning by police in Fayette, Alabama
regarding a stolen vehicle. Moore then grabbed a pistol from one of the
police officers and shot and killed him along with another officer and
dispatcher before fleeing in a police car.[45][46] One of Moore's attorneys, Jack Thompson, claimed it was GTA's
graphic nature—with his constant playing time—that caused Moore to
commit the murders, and Moore's family agrees. Damages are being sought
from branches of GameStop and Wal-Mart in Jasper, Alabama, the stores from which GTA III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, respectively, were purchased and also from the games' publisher Take-Two Interactive, and the PlayStation 2 manufacturer Sony Computer Entertainment. On 29 March 2006 the case was dismissed and permission to appeal was denied.[47]

In May 2005, Thompson appeared via satellite on the Glenn Beck program on CNN's Headline News. Thompson mentioned Devin Moore and said regarding Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
"There's no doubt in my mind [...] that but for Devin Moore's training
on this cop killing simulator, he would not have been able to kill three
cops in Fayette, Alabama who are now dead and in the ground. We are suing Take-Two, Sony, Wal-Mart, and GameStop for having trained Devin Moore to kill. He had no history of violence. No criminal record."[48]

In September 2006, Thompson brought another lawsuit, claiming that
Cody Posey played the game obsessively before murdering his father
Delbert Paul Posey, stepmother Tryone Schmid, and stepsister Marilea
Schmid on a ranch in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The suit was filed on behalf of the victims' families.[49] During the criminal trial, Posey's defense team argued he was abused by his father, and tormented by his stepmother.[50] Posey was also taking Zoloft at the time of the killings.[51] The suit alleged that were it not for his obsessive playing of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, the murders would not have taken place.[52]
Named in the suit were Cody Posey, Rockstar Games, Take-Two
Interactive, and Sony. The suit asked for US$600 million in damages.[53]

In 2009, a six-year-old boy, who claimed he had learned to drive from
the game, took his family's car on a 10-mile trip before he crashed.[54]

According to The Guinness World Records 2008 and 2009 Gamer's
Edition, it is the most controversial video game series in history, with
over 4,000 articles published about it, which include accusations of glamorising violence, corrupting gamers, and connection to real life crimes.[55]

Grand Theft Auto

The game was controversial from the very first incarnation of the series, in spite of[original research?] its cartoonish graphics.[56]Grand Theft Auto was condemned in Britain, Germany, and France due to its "extreme violence",[57] and Brazil banned it outright.[57]Publicist Max Clifford planted sensational stories in tabloids in order to help sell the first game.[56][58][59]

Grand Theft Auto III: general violence and crime

See also: Grand Theft Auto III#Controversy

The controversies flared up again with Grand Theft Auto III,
since the 3D graphics made the violence more realistic, and players
could pay the services of prostitutes to recover their health, and if
they wished, killing them to get their money back.[59]

There is also criticism from the focus on illegal activities in
comparison with traditional "heroic" roles that other games offer. The
main character can commit a wide variety of crimes and violent acts
while dealing with only temporary consequences, including the killing of
policemen and military personnel.

Vice City: ethnic discrimination

See also: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City#Controversy

The sixth game in the series, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, also came under criticism. One mission in particular, in which the player must instigate a gang war between Haitian and Cuban gangs, has been controversial. Haitian and Cuban anti-defamation groups criticised the game.

Jean-Robert Lafortune of the Haitian American Grassroots Coalition is
quoted as saying that "The game shouldn't be designed to destroy human
life, it shouldn't be designed to destroy an ethnic group," for this and
similar scenarios, including lines in the game's script such as "kill
the Haitian dickheads" said by character "Diaz" during an altercation
between the player and a Haitian gang. After the threat of a lawsuit by
the Haitian-American Grassroots Coalition, Rockstar removed the word
"Haitians" from this phrase in the game's subtitles.[60]
San Andreas: sex minigame
Main article: Hot Coffee minigame controversy

San Andreas was criticised initially due to its "gangster"
elements, which include drugs, prostitution, and murder; but later due
to the discovery of disabled interactive sex scenes, nicknamed Hot
Coffee, which was a sexual minigame that was cut from the game, but remained in the game code, which was discovered in both the console and Windows versions of the game. Dubbed the "Hot Coffee mod", the minigame allowed players to have sex with their in-game girlfriends and also record sextapes.

After the release of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, modders managed to find the unused code in the game and released unofficial patches for the Windows and Xbox (with a modchip) versions and PlayStation 2 version with the use of an Action Replay
code enabling the player to engage in these sexual mini-games (dubbed
"Hot Coffee" in reference to a euphemism for sex used in the game).
These mini-games were left partially intact in the game's code. This
prompted application of an AO (Adults Only) ESRB
rating to the version of the game containing the leftover code.
Take-Two Interactive was forced to re-release the game in order to
restore the M (Mature) rating. A class action lawsuit against Take-Two
was also filed as a result of the "Hot Coffee" code.[61][62]

Grand Theft Auto IV: drunk driving

Main article: Controversies surrounding Grand Theft Auto IV

One of the controversies involved with this game was Mothers Against Drunk Driving's (MADD) criticism of the ability to drink and drive as a new feature. MADD had even requested ESRB
to change the rating of the game from "M" for ages seventeen and up to
"AO", for adults only, because they felt it was inappropriate for
children, even at the age of seventeen, to experience drunk driving in
such a manner.[63]
In the final game, drunk driving is a playable event, but it is a crime
that automatically generates a wanted rating and protagonist Niko Bellic loudly (and drunkenly) proclaims that it is a "bad idea" and that he "should know better".[64]

The Lost and Damned: full-frontal nudity

See also: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned#Controversy

The Lost and Damned
expansion pack was condemned by U.S. parents group Common Sense Media
who issued a public warning against the pack's content due to a
full-frontal nudity
scene during one of the cut scenes. They claimed the game was "more
controversial than its predecessors" because it featured "full frontal
male nudity"
 

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You act like Sex murder and drugs are the only purpose and the only options in the game

Stop judging something you never played

I am through with this

Im leaving this whole stupid place before I say something I might regret <_<
 

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Do Not let poeple decide who you are, but follow Christ he is the only way, The word of God teach better than any man, if you put God first and seek the wisdom He will lead you to do the right things.
 

tim_from_pa

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You act like Sex murder and drugs are the only purpose and the only options in the game

Stop judging something you never played

I am through with this

Im leaving this whole stupid place before I say something I might regret <_<
Yeah, Like I said, I never remember it being this way in the past. Sorry for your ordeal.
 

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If you guys hate hearing about Jesus' teachings in a Christian forum this much then your going to really going to feel out of place when your standing before him some day because keep in mind mostly everything that has been said is quotes from the bible. Funny to think of now... I don't see one bible verse quoted from you guys to back up your theory that God is truely delighted with this type of game and a lifestyle that you seem to be so proud of when you say "And I don't worry about my relationship with him" ...from the way you speak you believe everyone is saved by God, they can sit back, drink, live a good worldly life and at some point Jesus will come to the rescue and do all the work for you. "It's only my duty to respond if called" Your very much mistaken, but, your choice... you just need to remember that... "your choice" God gave you the scripture, you obviously know it if your on a Chrsitian forum, so its up to you to live by it. I'm not sure what your waiting for when you say "its only my duty to respond if called" ...do you think Jesus is going to walk into your home and say here I am buddy, lets go, I'm calling you now!! :)

Oh... and a quote from Wikipedia about the video game
 

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Lots and Lots of people go to hell everyday. You are just assuming that I think "Everyrone is saved"

I should have left the topic a long time ago because You think you can just tear my hobbies

I never judge you for using the internet.

THE INTERNET IS FULL OF PORN AND MURDER AND CURSING, Just like GTA, Yet you come on here.....OH THATS DIFFERENT Isnt it......"The internet can be used for good" Video games can be too. I have learned alot about Video games, Not bad things either

Speaking of porn, Excuse me gentlemen, I have an addiction to end.
 

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If you guys hate hearing about Jesus' teachings in a Christian forum this much then your going to really going to feel out of place when your standing before him some day because keep in mind mostly everything that has been said is quotes from the bible. Funny to think of now... I don't see one bible verse quoted from you guys to back up your theory that God is truely delighted with this type of game and a lifestyle that you seem to be so proud of when you say "And I don't worry about my relationship with him" ...from the way you speak you believe everyone is saved by God, they can sit back, drink, live a good worldly life and at some point Jesus will come to the rescue and do all the work for you. "It's only my duty to respond if called" Your very much mistaken, but, your choice... you just need to remember that... "your choice" God gave you the scripture, you obviously know it if your on a Chrsitian forum, so its up to you to live by it. I'm not sure what your waiting for when you say "its only my duty to respond if called" ...do you think Jesus is going to walk into your home and say here I am buddy, lets go, I'm calling you now!! :)

Oh... and a quote from Wikipedia about the video game
You talkin' to me by chance? Yeah that's exactly what happens when one is called. Nobody can come to the Father save the Spirit draw him. You have no more of a choice in that than being born. What you do have a choice in is to respond to that call to salvation, be it this life, the world tomorrow, or the Great White Throne Judgement. Not everyone is saved now. But.... everyone will get a chance to hear the gospel, even those whose death antedated Christ's coming the first time and died not knowing anything. They will be raised and even be given a chance at salvation.

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Lots and Lots of people go to hell everyday. You are just assuming that I think "Everyrone is saved"

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Actually not, nobody's been sent there yet. That's at the final judgement and sentencing to the incorrigibly wicked (aka the destruction of the second death). One step you can take is learn what the bible really teaches about hell and not worry about that pagan doctrine commonly taught --- it's just more fear mongering teaching.