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The Smyrnadelphian Movement concerns those saints which have been imprisoned for their faith by the Mental Health System and forced to take drugs against their will and also slandered with severe names of diagnosis over the fact that we have biblical attitudes and beliefs; defined by psychology as persecution complex, religious preoccupation, and mania (the last of which is leveled against those who endeavor to watch and wait for the Lord's return so that their sleeping patterns are altered).

It is intended to set before us an open door that no man can shut, to be set free from the prison of drugs that has imprisoned us over the fact that we have acted out of zeal and fervor in evangelism for the sake of our Lord, and were placed in mental hospitals as a result and would not be set free until we became conditioned to take the drugs given by government-sanctioned drug dealers, psychiatrists.

Men and women who have indeed been forced into drug addiction over the fact that we have been outspoken about our faith in Jesus Christ and mankind's need for a Saviour in venues that are not acceptable to the unbelieving and Christ-hating men and women who do not want to hear the gospel of Christ and neither do they want anyone else to hear it.

It is a civil rights movement for Christians who have been deemed mentally ill because of their faith.
 

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I just want to say that my obedience does not come as the result of attempting to obtain the salvation that the Lord offers;

But rather it comes as the result of the salvation that the Lord has given to me.

I love Him because He first loved me (1 John 4:19);

And I obey His commandments because I love Him (John 14:15).

For me, I fell in love with the Lord when He revealed Himself to me as a God of love; and this occurred after I said to Him, "I don't know if You're even real; but I'm going to start reading Your word and doing what it says; and I know that if You are real that You will reveal Yourself to me."

God revealed Himself to me in that moment.

He came over my soul in what I would call waves of liquid love; He gave me an ecstatic joy and peace that I knew was pure and holy.

So, you see, I am in fact a recipient of grace;

Perhaps even more so than those people who believe that grace gives them the leeway to do "whatever they want to"....even when what they want to do is to indulge in the flesh.

Because if, in doing what they want to do, what they want to do is never again to indulge the flesh, then they would never again indulge the flesh.

And yet, I hear these people saying that they have "thoughts that would shame hell"...

Which is not the case for those who are born again.

For it is written that it is the wicked man who does not have God in all of his thoughts (Psalms 10:4 (kjv)).

Therefore, if you are born again, God is in all of your thoughts.

How then are you going to have "thoughts that would shame hell"?

I know that I do not have such thoughts since I became born again.
 

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I wrote a song once...

Lord Jesus, I ask You further into my heart...
Come Holy Spirit, I pray, and make me more like You...
oh-oh-oh (repeat)

Grant me the victory in every battle...
Lord have the victory in every battle...

Lord Jesus, I ask You in my heart...
Lord Jesus, I ask You in my heart.
 

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For the grace of GOD that brings salvation teaches us to deny all ungodliness and wordly lusts
and to be walking soberly , righteously and godly in this present world as we await the coming of the glorious Lord .
The love that comes from GOD would have us worship God in Spirit and in truth . The Holy Ghost .
The Father is a Spirit and desires us to worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth . JESUS made this possible .
For all who do believe and are under grace they would have the Love of GOD shed upon the heart .
Embracing every promise and every warning that GOD has inspired .
Yes indeed my friend . Lambs know JESUS is the ONLY Salvation and lambs know we must continue faithful in HIM to the end .
I see every reminder whether warning or encouragment as only being good for our soul .
If the Holy Spirit had all them apostels warning the church and using words like IF , Why would we omit that now today .
Thus let us heed every word and even the IFs . Let the Glorious LORD be praised my friend .
 
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Your confession is really quite concerning First I will point out that your feeling of liquid love can be faked and often is, that is not a biblical way of having assurance, You said you didn't know if God was Real But he revealed himself at that moment that's Kinda Dangerous but will leave that point for now, You said you would read the Bible so your example Of salvation was based on your feelings, Not learning Of the Gospel Not understanding Real Salvation Not Believing in the Sacrifice That Jesus Paid for our sins

faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

You put the cart before the horse, And your evidence Isn't the way that is found in the bible

I had a background in Christianity at the time that I had my experience with the Lord; so I was aware of the fact that Jesus died for my sins.

What the Lord wanted at that moment was my heart...and because He got my heart, He gave me an experience at that time that was not faked by me in any regard. I genuinely felt those things.

Funny thing is, I have not since then based my understanding of whether I was saved or not on my feelings. The Lord told me not long after I had that experience through a certain preaching that I heard, that believers often enter into what is called a "wilderness experience"...

So I do not base my understanding of whether I am saved or not on the level of joy that I might feel at any given moment....especially since the Holy Spirit physically causes that joy by increasing the levels of dopamine in the brain; and my medicine that I take inhibits dopamine levels.

You said you didn't know if God was Real But he revealed himself at that moment that's Kinda Dangerous

It kind of has to do with the principle that we find in Mark 9:24.
 

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Lol why you post it here out of context?
Again you have jumped the gun and been too impatient about what I was trying to do.

I was working on getting the beginning of that into the post while you posted this; but kept running into technical difficulties.

This part:

Your confession is really quite concerning First I will point out that your feeling of liquid love can be faked and often is, that is not a biblical way of having assurance, You said you didn't know if God was Real But he revealed himself at that moment that's Kinda Dangerous but will leave that point for now, You said you would read the Bible so your example Of salvation was based on your feelings, Not learning Of the Gospel Not understanding Real Salvation Not Believing in the Sacrifice That Jesus Paid for our sins

faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

You put the cart before the horse, And your evidence Isn't the way that is found in the bible
 

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Again you have jumped the gun and been too impatient about what I was trying to do.

I was working on getting the beginning of that into the post while you posted this; but kept running into technical difficulties.

I thought we were mid-conversation? maybe you jumped the gun i just posted

So As you said your Salvation isn't based On your reception to the Gospel But your heart said confession That you will read and Do what The Bible Says, and you back it up with a verse about obeying commandments, How clear can you make it, Haven't you read about the ones that tried to do what you say
 

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I thought we were mid-conversation? maybe you jumped the gun i just posted

So As you said your Salvation isn't based On your reception to the Gospel But your heart said confession That you will read and Do what The Bible Says, and you back it up with a verse about obeying commandments, How clear can you make it, Haven't you read about the ones that tried to do what you say

Yes, that was my repentance unto God.

As I said, I already had a knowledge of the 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 gospel so God did not have to rehash that with me.
 

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I just want to say that my obedience does not come as the result of attempting to obtain the salvation that the Lord offers;

But rather it comes as the result of the salvation that the Lord has given to me.

I love Him because He first loved me (1 John 4:19);

And I obey His commandments because I love Him (John 14:15).

For me, I fell in love with the Lord when He revealed Himself to me as a God of love; and this occurred after I said to Him, "I don't know if You're even real; but I'm going to start reading Your word and doing what it says; and I know that if You are real that You will reveal Yourself to me."

God revealed Himself to me in that moment.

He came over my soul in what I would call waves of liquid love; He gave me an ecstatic joy and peace that I knew was pure and holy.

So, you see, I am in fact a recipient of grace;

Perhaps even more so than those people who believe that grace gives them the leeway to do "whatever they want to"....even when what they want to do is to indulge in the flesh.

Because if, in doing what they want to do, what they want to do is never again to indulge the flesh, then they would never again indulge the flesh.

And yet, I hear these people saying that they have "thoughts that would shame hell"...

Which is not the case for those who are born again.

For it is written that it is the wicked man who does not have God in all of his thoughts (Psalms 10:4 (kjv)).

Therefore, if you are born again, God is in all of your thoughts.

How then are you going to have "thoughts that would shame hell"?

I know that I do not have such thoughts since I became born again.

There are people who have encountered God and do not have an experience of being instantly made holy. They struggle with the flesh and do what they dont want to do, as Paul describes. Make room for them because they do exist, and if they keep insisting on trust, after they struggle with sin for a while, He will give them the grace to put their passions in subjection.

Then there are others also, who think they are holy because God has not yet shown them the extent of their plight.

I am sure there are the truly holy also, who have died and who walk in the Spirit here and now and have been made able to bear more love and grace. I think they are more rare.
 
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There are people who have encountered God and do not have an experience of being instantly made holy. They struggle with the flesh and do what they dont want to do, as Paul describes. Make room for them because they do exist, and if they keep insisting on trust, after they struggle with sin for a while, He will give them the grace to put their passions in subjection.

Then there are others also, who think they are holy because God has not yet shown them the extent of their plight.

Amen. I'm living proof of it.

How are you, sister? Long time no talk to you. Been ok? : )
 
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Yes, I've been well. How about you?

Very good. Astonished at the good things He does. Just walking in my calling, as always, but it increases as time goes on. Too long a story to go into, but very pleased to see all that God is doing in my life.

Well, I didn't want to start a chit chat in the middle of a thread, LoL. I just wanted to say Hi, and nice seeing your face online again. :cool:
 

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The Smyrnadelphian Movement concerns those saints which have been imprisoned for their faith by the Mental Health System and forced to take drugs against their will and also slandered with severe names of diagnosis over the fact that we have biblical attitudes and beliefs; defined by psychology as persecution complex, religious preoccupation, and mania (the last of which is leveled against those who endeavor to watch and wait for the Lord's return so that their sleeping patterns are altered).

It is intended to set before us an open door that no man can shut, to be set free from the prison of drugs that has imprisoned us over the fact that we have acted out of zeal and fervor in evangelism for the sake of our Lord, and were placed in mental hospitals as a result and would not be set free until we became conditioned to take the drugs given by government-sanctioned drug dealers, psychiatrists.

Men and women who have indeed been forced into drug addiction over the fact that we have been outspoken about our faith in Jesus Christ and mankind's need for a Saviour in venues that are not acceptable to the unbelieving and Christ-hating men and women who do not want to hear the gospel of Christ and neither do they want anyone else to hear it.

It is a civil rights movement for Christians who have been deemed mentally ill because of their faith.
DEFUND THE PSYCHIATRIC SYSTEM.