Natural cleaning vs commercial products

[BlueNightingale]

So I did well at first and I was making cleaning products mostly from soap nuts and vinegar. Then after, I started using odoban for the last week on everything because it worked so well.

...Until I read the label and realized it said to wash your skin for 15-20 minutes and has an actual note for your doctor about mucosal damage.

So back to soap nuts with clove oil, and using gloves.

I just think the subject is interesting and I need to let go of my bleach addiction, too- so hard for me, so was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the subject.

 

[Wynona]

Im not strictly a natural cleaner but I love using vinegar and lemon to aid in cleaning.

If you put lemon on your metal shower attachments for a few minutes and then wipe it off, it gleams and looks extra shiny.

 

[Wynona]

I've never heard of soap nuts. I should look it up.

 

[BlueNightingale]

I've never heard of soap nuts. I should look it up.

I use vinegar for the whites, sometimes with baking soda if I want them brighter.

soap nuts are great for the floor and laundry, but they will make whites super dingy. just a heads up on that, if you try them!

I think I will try your shower head lemon trick! thanks!

 

[TLHKAJ]

I use a lot of Meyer's brand cleaners, or other non-toxic natural cleaners and soaps. But I like to mix together some filtered water+1 tsp meyers soap+white vinegar+essential oils for a cleaner. If I have Shaklee Basic H and/Basic G, I like to add those into that mixture.

 

[Hidden In Him]

So I did well at first and I was making cleaning products mostly from soap nuts and vinegar. Then after, I started using odoban for the last week on everything because it worked so well.

...Until I read the label and realized it said to wash your skin for 15-20 minutes and has an actual note for your doctor about mucosal damage.

So back to soap nuts with clove oil, and using gloves.

I just think the subject is interesting and I need to let go of my bleach addiction, too- so hard for me, so was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the subject.

Every time we use bleach around here I get a headache, which means I'm killing braincells, and my wife has an incredibly powerful sense of smell, so she can be knocked out for an entire day sometimes.

It's not worth it. Another one that seriously put me out of commission for awhile was Tilex Mold and Mildew. I think I'd honestly rather take my risks with mold and mildew that use that mess again. Gave me an awful headache that lasted 5+hours.

 

[Raccoon1010]

So I did well at first and I was making cleaning products mostly from soap nuts and vinegar. Then after, I started using odoban for the last week on everything because it worked so well.

...Until I read the label and realized it said to wash your skin for 15-20 minutes and has an actual note for your doctor about mucosal damage.

So back to soap nuts with clove oil, and using gloves.

I just think the subject is interesting and I need to let go of my bleach addiction, too- so hard for me, so was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the subject.

I use cleaning products from the store. But yeah you have to wear gloves with the oven cleaner cause it dissolves skin.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Every time we use bleach around here I get a headache, which means I'm killing braincells, and my wife has an incredibly powerful sense of smell, so she can be knocked out for an entire day sometimes.

It's not worth it. Another one that seriously put me out of commission for awhile was Tilex Mold and Mildew. I think I'd honestly rather take my risks with mold and mildew that use that mess again. Gave me an awful headache that lasted 5+hours.

So did that convince y'all to go more natural?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Shaklee Basic-G even kills puppy parvovirus. I have used it for that after my daughter's puppy got parvo from her parvo shots. Never got our dogs vaxxed before that and she wanted her new puppy vaxxed so we did ....the puppy died of parvo after her vax.

When we got another puppy, sure enough, he came down with parvo. We'd never had puppies get parvo until that "vax." With the new puppy, we nursed him through .....puppy anti-nausea, then fed him raw hamburger+cottage cheese, and clear Pedialyte in a syringe every half hour. He pulled through.

I sprayed my entire house and even the yard with Shaklee Basic-G and we never had another puppy with parvo after that!

 

[TLHKAJ]

Citrus and tea tree oils are great for killing germs. I believe oregano is as well. For smell, add other oils to your liking ....cinnamon is great with citrus, or lavender with tea tree to mask that strong smell.

 

[Hidden In Him]

So did that convince y'all to go more natural?

I'm never using Tilex again as long as I live.

Hey TLH, what do you make of this guy. He's convinced one of our members he's actually teaching sound doctrine and she wants to know more, and he openly stated from the start that he practices astral projection, honors a Gnostic gospel as authoritative, rejects the apostles as authoritative, and claims the title "High Priest" of his own religion. When I suggested his morality sounded a lot like "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law," his response was "In the words of the great serial killer Kathleen Wourmos, 'I'm good with God.'"

I know exactly what I think of him and have told him so, but at this point he is just playing everyone to promote his religion. It's just amazing watching someone getting sucked in.

Since you are aware of how Satanists use cults and various forms of Christianity as a cover, I thought you might be interested. I'm a non-Christian, where can I post?

 

[BlueNightingale]

I use a lot of Meyer's brand cleaners, or other non-toxic natural cleaners and soaps. But I like to mix together some filtered water+1 tsp meyers soap+white vinegar+essential oils for a cleaner. If I have Shaklee Basic H and/Basic G, I like to add those into that mixture.

Meyers is great! I used to love it, but it was a cleaner I used when I was pregnant with my son, which means I can never use it again. ill get sick lol

essential oil user here, too, especially for oil-based "perfume." normal perfumes make me sick, too

 

[Raccoon1010]

I'm never using Tilex again as long as I live.

Hey TLH, what do you make of this guy. He's convinced one of our members he's actually teaching sound doctrine and she wants to know more, and he openly stated from the start that he practices astral projection, honors a Gnostic gospel as authoritative, rejects the apostles as authoritative, and claims the title "High Priest" of his own religion. When I suggested his morality sounded a lot like "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law," his response was "In the words of the great serial killer Kathleen Wourmos, 'I'm good with God.'"

I know exactly what I think of him and have told him so, but at this point he is just playing everyone to promote his religion. It's just amazing watching someone getting sucked in.

Since you are aware of how Satanists use cults and various forms of Christianity as a cover, I thought you might be interested. I'm a non-Christian, where can I post?

HIH, I'm careful of posting in the General Discussions. As I don't believe a lot of the posters there are genuine and wanting to discuss religion. I rarely trust the source and am suspicious of the posters there. I'm careful.

 

[BlueNightingale]

Every time we use bleach around here I get a headache, which means I'm killing braincells, and my wife has an incredibly powerful sense of smell, so she can be knocked out for an entire day sometimes.

It's not worth it. Another one that seriously put me out of commission for awhile was Tilex Mold and Mildew. I think I'd honestly rather take my risks with mold and mildew that use that mess again. Gave me an awful headache that lasted 5+hours.

Chemicals can be harsh. I think I know that headache.

caught lice from a girl as a teen- it didn't go, so I got my head soaked in kerosene for a while. Was sick for a week after that. most awful headache after. I am not sure why anyone thought it was a good idea.

I'm never using Tilex again as long as I live.

Hey TLH, what do you make of this guy. He's convinced one of our members he's actually teaching sound doctrine and she wants to know more, and he openly stated from the start that he practices astral projection, honors a Gnostic gospel as authoritative, rejects the apostles as authoritative, and claims the title "High Priest" of his own religion. When I suggested his morality sounded a lot like "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law," his response was "In the words of the great serial killer Kathleen Wourmos, 'I'm good with God.'"

I know exactly what I think of him and have told him so, but at this point he is just playing everyone to promote his religion. It's just amazing watching someone getting sucked in.

Since you are aware of how Satanists use cults and various forms of Christianity as a cover, I thought you might be interested. I'm a non-Christian, where can I post?

i have been ignoring that one for a reason and it makes me uncomfortable

 

[Hidden In Him]

HIH, I'm careful of posting in the General Discussions. As I don't believe a lot of the posters there are genuine and wanting to discuss religion. I rarely trust the source and am suspicious of the posters there. I'm careful.

I understand. I am here more as a protector to the site than someone who interacts. We all come for different reasons. But I appreciate the advice, Devin.

i have been ignoring that one for a reason and it makes me uncomfortable

I didn't mean to derail your thread. Was just responding to TLH that this might be something she was interested in.

 

[BlueNightingale]

Shaklee Basic-G even kills puppy parvovirus. I have used it for that after my daughter's puppy got parvo from her parvo shots. Never got our dogs vaxxed before that and she wanted her new puppy vaxxed so we did ....the puppy died of parvo after her vax.

When we got another puppy, sure enough, he came down with parvo. We'd never had puppies get parvo until that "vax." With the new puppy, we nursed him through .....puppy anti-nausea, then fed him raw hamburger+cottage cheese, and clear Pedialyte in a syringe every half hour. He pulled through.

I sprayed my entire house and even the yard with Shaklee Basic-G and we never had another puppy with parvo after that!

That is really interesting. I have been sitting here trying to figure it out for twenty minutes lol so ill just ask, what inspired you to try that?

I never heard of the product, and its smart, but the idea would be so far from my mind. glad it worked!

but I know during the old 1912(?) Spanish flu, they sprayed juniperberry oil in the air to prevent spreading.

interesting to look into

 

[TLHKAJ]

That is really interesting. I have been sitting here trying to figure it out for twenty minutes lol so ill just ask, what inspired you to try that?

I never heard of the product, and its smart, but the idea would be so far from my mind. glad it worked!

but I know during the old 1912(?) Spanish flu, they sprayed juniperberry oil in the air to prevent spreading.

interesting to look into

Funny question. I'll start back in the late 1990's when I used to sell Shaklee products. And I'll leave that there for now, and fast forward to 2009 when I bought two "designer breed" puppies for my two oldest daughters. My oldest daughter wanted her puppy vaccinated, which we never did before. And then that whole incident happened as I described earlier.

After we got a puppy for my youngest daughter and he came down with parvo, I decided I needed to do something about it. I knew that vets use bleach and I wasn't going to do that. Well, it suddenly popped into my mind, a visual of the label from one of Shaklee's products (Basic-G ...the "G" is for germicide). In the visual, I remembered reading, "kills puppy parvovirus." Lol ....so I searched online for a local distributor and went and got me some!

Note: photographic recall is a leftover from having been subjected to MK Ultra ....it kicks in now and then. I also experience recall of things I've heard, like the title and artist of a song I heard months before. I heard a song on the radio one day, and the DJ didn't tell who sung it or the title. So in my mind, I suddenly recalled hearing it on the radio months before, and at the end of the song (in my head), I heard them tell the name of the artist. Lol

This was the song....

 

[TLHKAJ]

Honestly, @Hidden In Him and @FluffyYellowDuck ...."that one" is not to be trusted. I can see it on them, and I also can see they practice things of the occult, and are spreading another "gospel" ...one that involves pride and the original lie associated with the fall, and that was... "Ye shall be as gods."

 

[BlueNightingale]

Honestly, @Hidden In Him and @FluffyYellowDuck ...."that one" is not to be trusted. I can see it on them, and I also can see they practice things of the occult, and are spreading another "gospel" ...one that involves pride and the original lie associated with the fall, and that was... "Ye shall be as gods."

i didn't know they used bleach either. i guess its something i never had to deal with but interesting!

That thread gave me "don't even bother to look" vibes. I don't know what the deal with it is, but apparently I don't need to be over there

 

[amigo de christo]

Shaklee Basic-G even kills puppy parvovirus. I have used it for that after my daughter's puppy got parvo from her parvo shots. Never got our dogs vaxxed before that and she wanted her new puppy vaxxed so we did ....the puppy died of parvo after her vax.

When we got another puppy, sure enough, he came down with parvo. We'd never had puppies get parvo until that "vax." With the new puppy, we nursed him through .....puppy anti-nausea, then fed him raw hamburger+cottage cheese, and clear Pedialyte in a syringe every half hour. He pulled through.

I sprayed my entire house and even the yard with Shaklee Basic-G and we never had another puppy with parvo after that!

Is pepsi still alive and doing well .