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I think you and oti have completely missed the meaning of the scripture in question but that is just my opinion and you know what they say about those
well, they got "published" by a house that made a profit, right, should tell us all we need to know i guess. i mostly find them useful to determine what not to believe now
this has already been put down, it applies to us
nothing wrong with that, at all. Telling me to eat my vegetables is good advice, surely; telling an Eskimo that is pointless
John Calvin does an even better job of explaining:The substance of it is this: Whoever, after committing a crime, humbly confesses his fault, and entreats the Church to forgive him, is absolved not only by men, but by God himself; and, on the other hand, whoever treats with ridicule the reproofs and threatenings of the Church, if he is condemned by her, the decision which men have given will be ratified in heaven. If it be objected, that in this way God is made a sort of petty judge, who concurs in the sentence of mortal men, the reply is at hand. For when Christ maintains the authority of his Church, he does not diminish his own power or that of his Father, but, on the contrary, supports the majesty of his word. As in the former case (#Mt 16:19) he did not intend to confirm indiscriminately every kind of doctrine, but only that which had proceeded out of his mouth, so neither does he say in this place that every kind of decision will be approved and ratified, but only that in which he presides, and that too not only by his Spirit, but by his word. Hence it follows, that men do no injury to the authority of God, when they pronounce nothing but what comes from his mouth, and only endeavor faithfully to execute what he has commanded. For, though Christ alone is the Judge of the world, yet he chooses to have ministers to proclaim his word. {2} Besides, he wishes that his own decision should be pronounced by the Church; and thus he takes nothing from his own authority by employing the ministry of men, but it is Himself alone that looses and binds.
Huh? How did you surmise that from a simple question to understand those words better,
Twinc is making the same mistake I did, addressing the context the words are used in, not realizing there would be someone who would not understand the meaning of the words.
oti said:"From my perspective / POV, it is with most of them. Can't say that I've really seen any that I put any stock into. I pretty much threw out commentaries within the first year of my "belief", and I'd be willing to say, it was probably within the first six months. Though I have since seen others use a myriad of them, can't say that I have seen much of it worth reading."
these are not evil ppl, and they mean well ok. Use them as long as they serve you imo, but understand how you are also relying on Some Guy to interpret Scripture for you, and not the Spirit. Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slaveoti said:"From my perspective / POV, it is with most of them. Can't say that I've really seen any that I put any stock into. I pretty much threw out commentaries within the first year of my "belief", and I'd be willing to say, it was probably within the first six months. Though I have since seen others use a myriad of them, can't say that I have seen much of it worth reading."
WOW!
Obviously it has not been put down by twinc. It applies to us but how it applies does not seem to be clearly understood. Eskimos need veggies also
What makes you think we are not relying on the Spirit also, I will take all the help I can get.
What you and oti are saying applies to all preachers teachers as well but most of them are just trying to help and if they are honest they will tell you to check them out.
The Inuit Paradox | DiscoverMagazine.comObviously it has not been put down by twinc. It applies to us but how it applies does not seem to be clearly understood. Eskimos need veggies also
yes, most of them are just "trying to help;" for a price. Most of them are oblivious to the conflict of interests inherent in signing a 501 c3, and claiming the benefits on a form 1023 too, Jim. Even though a six year old could add those up. Use "3" for "c" there, i guess
Thanks for the history lesson on the Eskimo and the ills of the church. Any chance of getting back on point?
ha, that's what i said lol. to myself tho
i'm busily binding stuff right now, bro. you are welcome to loose them to your heart's content, too imo. Truth will fall somewhere in between i guess
hmm.... doesn't seem to have anything to do with the price of tea in China
are you avoiding post #105? Truth doesn't fall anywhere, it stands immutable, we just seek to discover it.
hmm.... doesn't seem to have anything to do with the price of tea in China
