Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
what say you?
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Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
If you're a non-Catholic, non-Orthodox Christian - you are a Protestant, by definition.Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
Non-denominational is a denomination of one.Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
Oh, now that's just plumb silly. Your own cardinal Stanislaus Hosius (1504 - 1579) was president of the Council of Trent, which sent more non catholic or never were catholic Baptists to be burned at the stake than any other evil movement in history said this:If you're a non-Catholic, non-Orthodox Christian - you are a Protestant, by definition.
Protestants who reject the term, "Protestant" are simply revisionists.
This is not a condemnation of Protestants - just a fact.
Stanislaus Hosius said:"If the truth of religion were to be judged by the readiness and cheerfulness which a man of any sect shows in suffering, the opinions and persuasions of no sect can be truer or surer than those of the Anabaptists, whence there have been none for these twelve hundred years past that have been more grievously punished, or that have more cheerfully and steadfastly undergone and even offered themselves to the most cruel sorts of punishment than these people."
Heinrich Bullinger said:"Now, I think it not labour lost to speak somewhat of anabaptism. In the time that Decius and Gallus Caesar were Emperors, there arose a question in the parts of Africa of rebaptising heretics; and St. Cyprian, and the rest of the Bishops, being assembled together in the council of Carthage, liked well of anabaptism.
"Of the Baptists it may be said that they are not reformers. These people, comprising bodies of Christian believers known under various names in different countries, are entirely distinct and independent of the Roman and Greek churches, have had an unbroken continuity of existence from Apostolic days down through the centuries. Throughout this long period they were bitterly persecuted for heresy, driven from country to country, disfranchised, deprived of their property, imprisoned, tortured and slain by the thousands, yet they swerved not from their New Testament Faith, Doctrine and Adherence."
No my friend, that statement about being catholic or protestant is in error..."The extreme conditions of the Reformation served to develop an organized denominational unity among the Baptists in Switzerland in 1523, which extended into Germany, then spread to Holland and other countries of Europe, also to England and Wales. The Baptist church of modern times may properly claim its "organized" denominational activities as beginning with the Switzerland movement."
Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
Your personal opinions regarding Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius aside - NONE of your rant disproves what I stated.Oh, now that's just plumb silly. Your own cardinal Stanislaus Hosius (1504 - 1579) was president of the Council of Trent, which sent more non catholic or never were catholic Baptists to be burned at the stake than any other evil movement in history said this:
(Henry) Heinrich Bullinger, also a Swiss Reformer (1504 -1575), was one who hated the Baptists with a passion and, yet charted our history well in his writings
- Decius (201 A.D. to 251 A.D.) and was the first Roman Emperor to launch an organized persecution against Christians.
- Gallus Caesar (Gallerius) lived from about (201 A.D. to 311 A.D.) and was responsible for starting the persecution against Christians in 303 A.D.
- Saint Cyprian of Carthage, (230 A.D. ? to ? A.D.) was a famous Roman Catholic bishop & great orator of his day.
J. Cardinal Gibbons, Primate of the Roman Catholic Church in America, Patrick J. Healy, D.D., Catholic University of America; Theodore Roosevelt, LL.D., Associate Editor of, "The Outlook" and a former President of the United States of America; and several other distinguished scholars served as contributors to the book entitled Crossing the Centuries, copyrighted in 1912. This highly educated group of scholars gave the histories of various religious denominations in North America at that time. About the Baptists this book states:
No my friend, that statement about being catholic or protestant is in error...
So you haven't read about all the splits in the catholic church?I say Paul never said that you put that interpretation on what Paul said. Whether you like it or not if you protest the Catholic Church you are a Protestant, that is what Protestant means. Non-denominational is still a denomination of your own group. The only way you can get away from denominations is to become either Catholic or Orthodox which are not denominations. Denominations and non-denominational started with Protestantism their was nothing like denominations before Protestantism that started in the 1500's.
Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?
And your point is???Your personal opinions regarding Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius aside - NONE of your rant disproves what I stated.
A Protestant by definition is a non-Catholic, Non-Orthodox Christian.
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary
Definition of protestant
prot·es·tant | \ ˈprä-tə-stənt
a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth
broadly: a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church
And, by the way - Hosius was one of FIVE Papal legates who presided over the Council of Trent.
That's true, there are a few Christians in the catholic church. The Bible says so:::I am a Christian, there's no reason to protest against Catholicism, they are one of us (Christians) also. We as Christians should be one united in Christ.
Actually - that was my question to YOU.And your point is???
More ignorance . . .That's true, there are a few Christians in the catholic church. The Bible says so:::
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
So you haven't read about all the splits in the catholic church?
There are no split, unless you count Luther. There are different rites which are not splits. For some strange reason Protestants just really don't understand the Catholic Church only has the Roman or Latin rite but there are many like the Armenian, Assyrian, Greek, Anglican, Eastern rites and many others but under one roof of the Catholic Church.
That's why when Protestants say RCC it is quite an insult to them and not the right way to refer to the Catholic Church. Saying RCC is equivalent to saying "A bunch of dumb prots" when referring to Protestants
Having served the catholic church when I worked in their education system I know what I am talkikng about.
Paul says things like denominations is division in the body of Christ. Being nondenominational I am neither Catholic or Protestant, I am biblical.
what say you?