New World Order Jesuit Deception

[Illuminator]

Luis del Alcázar​

"...Spanish Jesuit theologian...known for his Vestigatio arcani sensus in Apocalypsi (1614) published after his death, putting forward what would later be called a preterist view of Biblical prophecy..."

Francisco Ribera​

"...Spanish Jesuit theologian, identified with the Futurist Christian eschatological view."

So what. It doesn't matter what some obscure Jesuit theologian wrote. I never heard of Alcazar or Ribera. Preterism is not found in any official Catholic teaching. Your pretense is dishonest. Nobody cares about some unheard of book written 400+ years ago in Latin. The onus is on you to find preterism in any official Catholic teaching. Put up or shut up.

 

[covenantee]

So what. It doesn't matter what some obscure Jesuit theologian wrote. I never heard of Alcazar or Ribera. Preterism is not found in any official Catholic teaching. Your pretense is dishonest. Nobody cares about some unheard of book written 400+ years ago in Latin. The onus is on you to find preterism in any official Catholic teaching. Put up or shut up.

You never heard of the counter-Reformation?

What kind of poor papist are you?

 

[ButterflyJones]

Some co-called churches today hold to the 15th century doctrine called Full Preterism. They believe that all... of Christ's Olivet discourse signs were fulfilled in 70 A.D. This means they likewise treat Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation the same, as having already been fulfilled back in the days of Christ's Apostles.

What that false doctrine does then is suppose that we are now in Christ's Kingdom since 70 A.D. It also wrongly supposes that the "thousand years" literal reign by Jesus at His future coming is meant spiritually, and began in the era of His Apostles after 70 A.D.

That false doctrine is suggested to have been created by a Jesuit priest as part of the Catholic Church's counter-reformation strategy against the Protestant movement in Europe back in that era.

I wouldn't go so far as to allow that as the real... origin of that Full Preterist doctrine though.

Those who know their Bible as written are aware per Christ's Book of Revelation that for the very end of this world there is to be a beast kingdom setup over the earth with ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns, and that a beast king, the "another beast" of Rev.13 &17, is to come to be king over it, and rule over all nations and peoples for the end.

That world beast system for the end is a direct parallel to today's globalist workings towards a "one world government", which is what they themselves have called it, and have also used the "New World Order" label for it in their political speeches. The New World Order phrase used to be a mystery, with only those who knew what the phrase meant when it was said in political speeches, even back to the days of ex-President Woodrow Wilson in the 1900s.

What this means then, is that the Full Preterism doctrine that is the rule in many Christian Churches today, is actually pushing the "New World Order" agenda which will become Lucifer's tool for the end of this world over all nations and peoples. Many in their congregations are possibly not aware of what that false doctrine means. Others in those congregations I believe know exactly what it means, and are 100% on board with the "one world government" working.

Consider why members in those type churches would agree with Full Preterism:

1. as believers on Christ, they believe Jesus gave them 'this present world' to go ahead and create His Kingdom now, without the need of His future return.

2. they want to help the poorer nations, which is a good desire all Christians have. But at what expense? Already the western Christian nations have been sending much wealth and technology to its traditional enemies, like the Communist nations, and nations like Red China have used it to make their economy more powerful in building more weapons in prep for war! And they have repeatedly said they expect war with The United States.

3. the western and free nations have been fighting radical Islam for how many decades now in the name of global world peace? at least since 1993 when Arafat announced this latter phase of official Jihad terrorism. But yeah, all Christians have the basic desire for world peace. Yet Jesus and Apostle Paul warned us about the false "Peace and safety" for the very end just prior to Christ's future return. The New World Order's world peace is only going to be for serving Lucifer's beast kingdom.

4. all Christians naturally want all wars to end. But Lord Jesus warned that when we stop hearing of wars and rumors of war, then we are in the very END (i.e., the "great tribulation"). And that will mean the world will hate us who remain faithful in Christ Jesus.

5. the New World Order system supports the false idea that all... religions are equal. The U.N. even has pushed legislation where you cannot defame any religion. They even have a meditation room in the U.N. building in New York so whatever religion you follow, you can go in their to worship. To join with that means giving up what The Bible says that we are saved ONLY through the name of Jesus Christ and none other. Both the Catholic Church and... these so-called Protestant Churches on the Preterism doctrines are allowing demonstrations within their church services of 'other' religions. I once saw a newpaper photo in a Chicago paper of three Buddhist priests chanting mantras standing in front of the Communion Table of Christ inside a Church.

6. the crept in unawares (i.e., Lucifer's workers), fool these church congregations, because they are supporting the ecumenical joining of all religions in one big pot in prep for their messiah to come and play God over all of it. Apostle Paul actually warned about this very thing in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 with the false one to come at the end sitting in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, and showing himself that he is God, and over all that worshiped or that is called God! The point here is 'one world religion'.

Interestingly, Pope Francis is a Jesuit. The first to ever be elected Pope of the RCC.
And, it is no secret he avows as an Ecumenist Ecumenism.

 

[Davy]

Interestingly, Pope Francis is a Jesuit. The first to ever be elected Pope of the RCC.
And, it is no secret he avows as an Ecumenist Ecumenism.

This really is not about the Jesuits. The plans for a "one world government" go back in history much earlier than the Catholic Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's what they get for allowing a Communist-Leftist pope to come to power.

But this has nothing to do with this THREAD'S TOPIC of how man's theory of PRETERISM is a false doctrine and not written in God's Word.

Apparently, you were NEVER a student of History . . .

St. John Paul II has been credited by virtually EVERY world leader and historian as being one of the main architects of the DEMISE of Soviet Communism in Eastern Europe along with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. The entire movement began in his native Poland with the Solidarity strikes led by Lecj Walensa.

Do your homework before maming such idiotic statements . . .

 

[ButterflyJones]

This really is not about the Jesuits. The plans for a "one world government" go back in history much earlier than the Catholic Church.

Yes, I know. However the order was part of the OP.

 

[Illuminator]

Yes, I know. However the order was part of the OP.

What is similar about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders?
Well, they were both founded by Spaniards, St. Dominic for the Dominicans, and St. Ignatius of Loyola for the Jesuits.
They were also both founded to combat heresy: the Dominicans to fight the Albigensians, and the Jesuits to fight the Protestants.

What is different about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders?
Well, have you met any Albigensians lately?

 

[Illuminator]

Pope Francis is Dividing the Church. Here's why.​

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Pope Francis is Dividing the Church. Here's why.​

This is only just a kid ! who is still wet behind the ears compared to the people he mentioned within the RCC that he is running down ! as They have much better perspective than such a kid by far. And their concerns are valid nor to be just dismissed.

The RCC has always had most people within who are not interested in reading Encyclical letters, let alone many Priest.
I had many in the RCC that did not like Pope JP2 and Pope Ben and I tried to give them the Popes letters, Encyclicals etc they did not want such at all.

I find the RCC under this Pope Frances is nothing more than coming from a Socialist freemason direction. You can get the same trash going to a Lefty liberal atheist convention.
Pope Frances is clearly not born again, he is only a religious dupe that is in bed with Islam and the stupid Godless Jews. People who have no Grace, for they are only religious.

Religion is not were it's at ! even an atheist is religious in fact regardless of what one claims.

Christ Jesus is were it's all at ! but Pope Frances never mentions such, so as not to offend his religious mates who reject the real Jesus !

A real Pope would be only relating to Christ Jesus first and foremost in everything he put forward ! only relating to Christ Jesus and not of this world.

Pope JP2 and Pope Ben were hated by the MSM and were under attack 24/7 by the MSM in fact, because they hated every Pope but for Pope Frances in fact, Why well because this one is one of them ! Of this world in fact !

I do not believe in the fast tracking of Pope JP2 at all, I liked him but the RCC went down hill with him on board, so as for Sainthood No ! he resided over so many fags priest, tho he did call them out as trash every 2ed week, but the trash had settled in and JP could not kick them out and Pope Ben said to Pray for him regarding them fags do not devour him ! He said that on his first day. I respect Pope Ben and all he said before becoming the Pope, he was a very intelligent and great man !

But the rot clearly set in with Vatican 2 Pope Paul the 6th was right what he said had come into the Church and then another dude took his place claiming to be Pope Paul 6th. as many relations said this man was an imposter ! and had changed direction from the original as well in fact. He had them real thick glasses from then on, so as to hide himself from being exposed.

The direction of Pope JP2 and Pope Ben in all their books that were printed was not the same path that this monster is heading down and major people in the RCC have pointed such out.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Interestingly, Pope Francis is a Jesuit. The first to ever be elected Pope of the RCC.
And, it is no secret he avows as an Ecumenist Ecumenism.

The Jesuit of old is a different type than the Communist type of nowadays it is.
More of a Jewuit now ! = Lacking Grace.
I remember one of the head Jesuit order explained how it was taken over and changed, they bastardised the order in the 1960's I think.

Al of the Australian right wing PM of late were Jesuits PM T Abbot and PM M Turnbull, fantastic deception leadership ! say one thing and do another, great in creating a façade ! but totally useless back sliding in regards the real intent that they claim to support in fact.

The Jesuits are now in bed with the Jews and Islam, why ! because they are Freemasons. Freemasons embrace any religion regardless. and that's why we have Islamic people lording it over us now in political and regarding Laws, so as to empower them over us.

 

[Davy]

Apparently, you were NEVER a student of History . . .

St. John Paul II has been credited by virtually EVERY world leader and historian as being one of the main architects of the DEMISE of Soviet Communism in Eastern Europe along with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. The entire movement began in his native Poland with the Solidarity strikes led by Lecj Walensa.

Do your homework before maming such idiotic statements . . .

I didn't say all the popes of history were Marxists.

Malachi Martin, a Catholic priest who wrote the definitive work on the Jesuits, showed that the philosophy of Marxism was a problem with many of the Jesuits, so don't preach to me about history of just one pope.

And by the way, in case you have not noticed, world Communism is definitely NOT dead. You should read ex-KJV colonel Golitsyn's 1984 book New Lies For Old. He defected to the U.S. in the 1960s, and revealed that the long-range Soviet plan devised in 1958 included a 3-phase plan for takeover of the West. In the final 3rd phase he said, the Soviets might allow the Berlin Wall to come down. Now he wrote that in 1984, several years before it actually happened under the Reagan administration. And Reagan winds up giving Gorbachev an historical U.S. landmark in San Francisco, the Presidio, to hold his globalist summits in?

So you do YOUR homework, for things are not always as they seem, especially for you folks who rely on your TV for accuracy in the news!

 

[Davy]

Yes, I know. However the order was part of the OP.

The over-focus on the Catholic Church regarding global religion serves as a deception in itself away from the greater big picture which God's Word points to regarding the Revelation beast and Babylon Harlot (the great city, JERUSALEM).

When the coming pseudo-Christ shows up in JERUSALEM, and proclaims himself as God working great signs and wonders, like Apostle Paul showed in 2 Thess.2, and Lord Jesus showed in Matthew 24, that is going to affect ALL religion, not just the Catholic Church. There is a reason why the secret societies of Freemasons and Rosicrucians, etc., teach that all religions are equal, which is the idea of one-world religion.

 

[Illuminator]

I didn't say all the popes of history were Marxists.

Malachi Martin, a Catholic priest who wrote the definitive work on the Jesuits, showed that the philosophy of Marxism was a problem with many of the Jesuits, so don't preach to me about history of just one pope.

Malachi Martin wrote NOVELS, quoted by anti-Catholics as factual, and was thrown out of the priesthood in 1965. In Contact with Bad Taste

And by the way, in case you have not noticed, world Communism is definitely NOT dead. You should read ex-KJV colonel Golitsyn's 1984 book New Lies For Old. He defected to the U.S. in the 1960s, and revealed that the long-range Soviet plan devised in 1958 included a 3-phase plan for takeover of the West. In the final 3rd phase he said, the Soviets might allow the Berlin Wall to come down. Now he wrote that in 1984, several years before it actually happened under the Reagan administration. And Reagan winds up giving Gorbachev an historical U.S. landmark in San Francisco, the Presidio, to hold his globalist summits in?

So you do YOUR homework, for things are not always as they seem, especially for you folks who rely on your TV for accuracy in the news!

3. This all too imminent danger, Venerable Brethren, as you have already surmised, is bolshevistic and atheistic Communism, which aims at upsetting the social order and at undermining the very foundations of Christian civilization .

4. In the face of such a threat, the Catholic Church could not and does not remain silent. This Apostolic See, above all, has not refrained from raising its voice, for it knows that its proper and social mission is to defend truth, justice and all those eternal values which Communism ignores or attacks. Ever since the days when groups of "intellectuals" were formed in an arrogant attempt to free civilization from the bonds of morality and religion, Our Predecessors overtly and explicitly drew the attention of the world to the consequences of the dechristianization of human society. With reference to Communism, Our Venerable Predecessor, Pius IX, of holy memory, as early as 1846 pronounced a solemn condemnation, which he confirmed in the words of the Syllabus directed against "that infamous doctrine of so-called Communism which is absolutely contrary to the natural law itself, and if once adopted would utterly destroy the rights, property and possessions of all men, and even society itself."[1] Later on, another of Our predecessors, the immortal Leo XIII, in his Encyclical Quod Apostolici Muneris, defined Communism as "the fatal plague which insinuates itself into the very marrow of human society only to bring about its ruin."[2] With clear intuition he pointed out that the atheistic movements existing among the masses of the Machine Age had their origin in that school of philosophy which for centuries had sought to divorce science from the life of the Faith and of the Church.

Divini Redemptoris (March 19, 1937) | PIUS XI

Encyclical Divini Redemptoris of Pius XI, 19 March 1937

www.vatican.va

 

[Illuminator]

The over-focus on the Catholic Church regarding global religion serves as a deception in itself away from the greater big picture which God's Word points to regarding the Revelation beast and Babylon Harlot (the great city, JERUSALEM).

The Catholic Church is not part of any "global religion" conspiracy. It would necessitate violating centuries of Catholic teaching so the notion is stupid and absurd. The CC is not the Revelation beast and Babylon Harlot. That's cartoon theology; those lies are exposed here.

When the coming pseudo-Christ shows up in JERUSALEM, and proclaims himself as God working great signs and wonders, like Apostle Paul showed in 2 Thess.2, and Lord Jesus showed in Matthew 24, that is going to affect ALL religion, not just the Catholic Church. There is a reason why the secret societies of Freemasons and Rosicrucians, etc., teach that all religions are equal, which is the idea of one-world religion.

The Church's ultimate trial

675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.574 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth575 will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.576

676 The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism,577 especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.578

677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.579 The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.580 God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.581

footnotes:
576 Cf. 2 Thess 2:4-12; 1 Thess 5:2-3; 2 Jn 7; 1 Jn 2:18,22.
577 Cf. DS 3839.
578 Pius XI, Divini Redemptoris, condemning the "false mysticism" of this "counterfeit of the redemption of the lowly"; cf. GS 20-21.
579 Cf. Rev 19:1-9.
580 Cf Rev 13:8; 20:7-10; 21:2-4.
581 Cf. Rev 20:12 2 Pet 3:12-13.

Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 1 SECTION 2 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 7

www.scborromeo.org

ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI ON ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM

Divini Redemptoris (March 19, 1937) | PIUS XI

Encyclical Divini Redemptoris of Pius XI, 19 March 1937

www.vatican.va

 

[covenantee]

The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.576

1. “All the names which in the Scripture are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, De Conciliorum Auctoriatate (On the Authority of the Councils) Bk 2, chap. 17
2. “The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God. He is the divine monarch and supreme emperor, and king of kings. Hence the pope is crowned with a triple crown, as King of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions.” Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, vol.6, art. “Papa II”
3. “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” Pope Leo XIII, in an encyclical letter dated June 20, 1894, The Great Encyclical Letters of Leo XIII, p. 304.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't say all the popes of history were Marxists.

Malachi Martin, a Catholic priest who wrote the definitive work on the Jesuits, showed that the philosophy of Marxism was a problem with many of the Jesuits, so don't preach to me about history of just one pope.

And by the way, in case you have not noticed, world Communism is definitely NOT dead. You should read ex-KJV colonel Golitsyn's 1984 book New Lies For Old. He defected to the U.S. in the 1960s, and revealed that the long-range Soviet plan devised in 1958 included a 3-phase plan for takeover of the West. In the final 3rd phase he said, the Soviets might allow the Berlin Wall to come down. Now he wrote that in 1984, several years before it actually happened under the Reagan administration. And Reagan winds up giving Gorbachev an historical U.S. landmark in San Francisco, the Presidio, to hold his globalist summits in?

So you do YOUR homework, for things are not always as they seem, especially for you folks who rely on your TV for accuracy in the news!

Sooooo, you tell me to do my homework and talk about “accuracy” – THEN you fall off the tracks by referencing an ex-priest like Malachi Martin, who had an obvious ax to grind with the Church.

Martin spun some TALL tales about the Church in his day. For example, during the late 1960’s political and social upheaval, Pope Paul VI commented that the “smoke of Satan” had entered the Church.

Martin took this to mean that Satanism was being practiced by the Bishops. The Pope was clearly talking about what was happening in the world and in the Church during the late 60s.

Martin went so far as to claim that a secret satanic cabal was at work in the Vatican.

He was a frequent guest on Art Bell’s radio show. Art Bell was a radio conspiracy-theorist who put a LOT of credence on the idea that we were being visited and observed by space aliens – among other crazy conspiracies..

Secondly – I never claimed that Communism in the world was dead.
I specifically said Soviet Communism – so, try being HONEST for a change . . .

 

[Davy]

Sooooo, you tell me to do my homework and talk about “accuracy” – THEN you fall off the tracks by referencing an ex-priest like Malachi Martin, who had an obvious ax to grind with the Church.

Martin spun some TALL tales about the Church in his day. For example, during the late 1960’s political and social upheaval, Pope Paul VI commented that the “smoke of Satan” had entered the Church.

Martin took this to mean that Satanism was being practiced by the Bishops. The Pope was clearly talking about what was happening in the world and in the Church during the late 60s.

Martin went so far as to claim that a secret satanic cabal was at work in the Vatican.

He was a frequent guest on Art Bell’s radio show. Art Bell was a radio conspiracy-theorist who put a LOT of credence on the idea that we were being visited and observed by space aliens – among other crazy conspiracies..

Secondly – I never claimed that Communism in the world was dead.
I specifically said Soviet Communism – so, try being HONEST for a change . . .

Malachi Martin isn't the only one who revealed what the Jesuit order was about. So why don't you go to a Jews website and see if you can deceive them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Malachi Martin isn't the only one who revealed what the Jesuit order was about. So why don't you go to a Jews website and see if you can deceive them.

This is an astonishingly idiotic point.

Soooooo, because a fallacy is repeated by more than one party – it becomes “True”??
Did you get your philosophy from Joseph Goebbels?

 

[Illuminator]

1. “All the names which in the Scripture are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, De Conciliorum Auctoriatate (On the Authority of the Councils) Bk 2, chap. 17
2. “The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God. He is the divine monarch and supreme emperor, and king of kings. Hence the pope is crowned with a triple crown, as King of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions.” Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, vol.6, art. “Papa II”
3. “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” Pope Leo XIII, in an encyclical letter dated June 20, 1894, The Great Encyclical Letters of Leo XIII, p. 304.

You are not honest enough to show where you got this list of deceiving misquotes. An SDA site? CARM? jesusislord.con? Your so called sources can't be traced on line so context can't be checked. Your argument is stupid and absurd, no pope ever claimed to be God, that's a blasphemy that would have caused an uproar. Did your father abuse or neglect you as a child, and that is why you hate father figures?

Debate: The Anti-Catholic “Pope as God” Argument [1-1-99]
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Popes Claimed to be God? / Pope as Antichrist (vs. Calvin #23) [6-30-09]
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What Year Did Popes Become Antichrist? (vs. John Calvin) [3-11-10]
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Pope St. Pius V Claimed to be God (Say Anti-Catholics) [2-11-11]
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Did a Bishop Say Pope St. John Paul II was God? [2-11-11]
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“Pope is God”? Similar Rhetoric from Luther & Bullinger [2-24-11]

 

[Illuminator]

Malachi Martin isn't the only one who revealed what the Jesuit order was about. So why don't you go to a Jews website and see if you can deceive them.

This is a non-reply, a total avoidance of BofL's post. It's called cognitive dissonance.



Anti-Catholics repeatedly reveal a sick obsession with the Jesuits with the "Jack Chick" mentality and the "Jesuit Oath" lunacy, I'm ready to debunk that nonsense as well.
Even a list of Jesuit martyrs won't shut them up.

Malachi Martin is mentioned in the video.

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