No Biblical World View

[ChristisGod]

this is the one where Slick literally gets punked by a philosopher on the laws of logic.slick claims to be a " theologian " yet fails miserably with basic logic 101. its an embarrassment to apologetics .

 

[ChristisGod]

@MatthewG I'm not going to give you a bad time with shawn anymore. That is between you and Christ. I would just caution you to take anything anyone says with a grain of salt including me, anyone on this forum and shawn and be a good berean and check everything out with scripture and prayer asking Jesus to lead you into truth.

I'm making a truce with you. But I would hope that if I ask you a question or you ask me one we would both be open to answering them the best to our God given abilities. That is one way in which iron can sharpen iron in principle. I can tell you that unitarians asking me questions, modalists, JW's, Catholics, mormons, agnostics, atheists etc.... have helped me to learn and defend what I believe because of their questions which have caused me to search and seek out Gods word for the answers to those questions.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Thank you for the suggestion. It is the Spirit that leads us into all truth.

That doesn't mean that there are not people out there trying to help others by teaching but of course there are people who can be deceitful.

Totally agreed. In my observation Slick and McCraney are very much in the wolf category. But you of course need to make your own observations and listen to the Spirit yourself.

 

[ChristisGod]

Totally agreed. In my observation Slick and McCraney are very much in the wolf category. But you of course need to make your own observations and listen to the Spirit yourself.

Agree and now that I oppose calvinism on CARM where I have supported it for the past 20 years I get banned all the time now and censored. When I was a calvinist opposing non calvinists I never was banned and actually treated others unkind then. Now I treat them much better and attack their arguments and not the person ( ad hominem ) . There is a rule for such behavior and if I report others doing it to me I get banned but they get a free pass all of the time and never get banned for calling me every name in the book.

Like that atheist in the first video he edited out his response, deleted it so matt would look good on CARM- hypocrisy just like the pharisees in Matthew 23.

But I continue to post as there have been 4 calvinsts who have left calvinism since I have come out of it. So I look at it as a ministry opportunity. Since I defended calvinism for so many years its easy for me to oppose is as I know all their arguments and weaknesses. :)

 

[dhh712]

It is funny though, people on the board.

Calling people false christians and stuff...

If one does not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh that person in NOT A CHRISTIAN. There is just no other way to state it. There are a few fundamentals of Christianity and that is one of them. One who denies that Jesus is God is not my brother or sister in the Lord Jesus. I will not fellowship with a nonbeliever. They are essentially atheists.

There has to be some sort of regulation as to what a Christian is; else, you will eventually have on down the road someone who says they have devoted their life to and worship the Almighty Pink Unicorn--but I'm a Christian because that's what I call myself. I mean, a line's got to be drawn somewhere. It has decidedly been drawn on the deity of Christ line. One who denies the deity of Christ = not a Christian.

I mean, I can definitely be mean and say what I think these people should be called, but I do not think that is right. I feel it is best to be respectful on these forums. Therefore, I put forth that I respectfully wish such people who do not worship the God-man Jesus as God as he is revealed to be by God's word to stop blaspheming the name of Christ and naming themselves as they who do worship the Living God Jesus as he rightly should be.

 

[ChristisGod]

If one does not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh that person in NOT A CHRISTIAN. There is just no other way to state it. There are a few fundamentals of Christianity and that is one of them. One who denies that Jesus is God is not my brother or sister in the Lord Jesus. I will not fellowship with a nonbeliever. They are essentially atheists.

There has to be some sort of regulation as to what a Christian is; else, you will eventually have on down the road someone who says they have devoted their life to and worship the Almighty Pink Unicorn--but I'm a Christian because that's what I call myself. I mean, a line's got to be drawn somewhere. It has decidedly been drawn on the deity of Christ line. One who denies the deity of Christ = not a Christian.

Jesus asked the disciples ( not because He didn’t know the answer ) on several occasions - who do people say that I Am ?

That is the most important question anyone can honestly ask themselves . Personally I believe one’s eternity rests upon that answer as well as one’s allegiance, commitment, devotion to Him as their Savior and Lord ( YHWH ) . Paul said one must confess Jesus is Lord in Romans 10:9-14 to be saved . Paul quoted the OT passage about YHWH as Lord and applied that Divine name / title to Jesus .

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Irony? Scripture.
We are to expose false teachers.
Like for example those who promote the heresy of Universalism.

It is funny though, people on the board.

Calling people false christians and stuff...

Oh the irony of the human soul.

 

[MatthewG]

Matt is also autistic, which some people may not know.

 

[MatthewG]

If one does not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh that person in NOT A CHRISTIAN. There is just no other way to state it. There are a few fundamentals of Christianity and that is one of them. One who denies that Jesus is God is not my brother or sister in the Lord Jesus. I will not fellowship with a nonbeliever. They are essentially atheists.

There has to be some sort of regulation as to what a Christian is; else, you will eventually have on down the road someone who says they have devoted their life to and worship the Almighty Pink Unicorn--but I'm a Christian because that's what I call myself. I mean, a line's got to be drawn somewhere. It has decidedly been drawn on the deity of Christ line. One who denies the deity of Christ = not a Christian.

I mean, I can definitely be mean and say what I think these people should be called, but I do not think that is right. I feel it is best to be respectful on these forums. Therefore, I put forth that I respectfully wish such people who do not worship the God-man Jesus as God as he is revealed to be by God's word to stop blaspheming the name of Christ and naming themselves as they who do worship the Living God Jesus as he rightly should be.

Do whatever you gotta do man, life is tough. There is a scripture I am reminded you do everything you can in the name of Christ (paraphrase). Also a scripture which deals with sharing our Hope with others when asked and to share in meekness and fear.

 

[MatthewG]

Irony? Scripture.
We are to expose false teachers.
Like for example those who promote the heresy of Universalism.

People take the Bible and say they have authority to demand things, even demand and promote false things about God.

I personally do not believe in universalism…

However I do believe scripture describing a place for non-believers to dwell and believers have a place to dwell when they leave this life.

 

[MatthewG]

Totally agreed. In my observation Slick and McCraney are very much in the wolf category. But you of course need to make your own observations and listen to the Spirit yourself.

Thank you for commenting.

 

[ChristisGod]

Matt is also autistic, which some people may not know.

Really ?

Matt Slick ?

 

[ScottA]

Do you believe that the Bible has (or states) a "Biblical World View" ?

I'm not a forum video watcher either.

Not sure if this applies to what I have not watched...but the term "Biblical World View" is very much an oxymoron:

There is a world view, and there is a kingdom view. The Bible simply gives witness to the kingdom view in the world.​

 

[Enoch111]

That doesn't mean that there are not people out there trying to help others by teaching...

The only way you help others is by presenting sound doctrine. Evidently this man needs to learn what sound doctrine is.

 

[Lambano]

Do you believe that the Bible has (or states) a "Biblical World View" ?

Not "A" world-view but several world-views. Each author shows the world-view of his people AT THAT TIME.

NT Wright talks about what a world-view is. Your world-view answers the questions

• Who are we?
• Where are we?
• What's wrong?
• What is the answer?
• What time is it?

With those questions, you can see that, say, Jeremiah's world-view is different from, say, Paul's. Different view of who God's people are, different perception of what the problem is, different view of where God's people are on the eschatological timeline to the solution.

So, when I hear people talk about a "Biblical world-view", I want to ask, "Which one?" Since our situations have both similarities and differences with those of the prophets, the Psalmists, and the apostles, I think it would be appropriate to say that the Bible should inform our world-views. But we can't have the same world-view as any of the Biblical writers because our situations are not exactly the same.

 

[MatthewG]

Not "A" world-view but several world-views. Each author shows the world-view of his people AT THAT TIME.

NT Wright talks about what a world-view is. Your world-view answers the questions

• Who are we?
• Where are we?
• What's wrong?
• What is the answer?
• What time is it?

With those questions, you can see that, say, Jeremiah's world-view is different from, say, Paul's. Different view of who God's people are, different perception of what the problem is, different view of where God's people are on the eschatological timeline to the solution.

So, when I hear people talk about a "Biblical world-view", I want to ask, "Which one?" Since our situations have both similarities and differences with those of the prophets, the Psalmists, and the apostles, I think it would be appropriate to say that the Bible should inform our world-views. But we can't have the same world-view as any of the Biblical writers because our situations are not exactly the same.

It would all end up going towards Eschatology and what one believe about the end of things, mentioned in the bible. Such as the old world passing away and a new earth and heaven being administrated by being born-again and living a new life with Christ Jesus with-in you by faith and live by the spirit having love for our enemies and neighbors.

Those are some of my thoughts on that Lambano leaving out world views like - how people can use the bible to be political and taking political stances based on an age that is completely different than us having had been under the Law, also how people can simply misuse the bible if they are not going and learning by and according to the Spirit that God give which always leads to having love.

Perhaps the way I look at a "World View" even a Bibilical World View, it always comes down to earthly thing when we are meant to be focused on spiritual things however when the people there in that time the Isralites had lived under their heaven and earth until it the wrath of God had come and was poured out on them for having going to decide to live by the old covenant instead of the new having crucified Jesus on the Cross. This wrath would be their punishment for doing such a crime, which praise God doesn't apply on anyone today, however the LORD can Avenge a person who has been done wrong.

So therefore because of all this I do not see really a support for a certain world view given by the bible at all, except the freedom to choose either one will go and decide to worship God in spirit and truth by prayer, supplications, and taking time to read the bible and spend some time learning and growing in one own individual faith in fear and trembling and to share what your hope is in meekness and fear. (this is simply an approach).

 

[MatthewG]

I'm not a forum video watcher either.

Not sure if this applies to what I have not watched...but the term "Biblical World View" is very much an oxymoron:

There is a world view, and there is a kingdom view. The Bible simply gives witness to the kingdom view in the world.​

On thing is for sure ScottA you are right there is a Kingdom you and believers belong to as people who have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ whom was raised again on the third day. They are given the Holy Spirit of God from the Father through the Lord Jesus Christ, and they also gain having the Spirit of Christ to live with-in them. Anyone reading should also know that you have a family of believers in this world even if you may feel as though you do not have many people to share and talk with about God. Being lead and moved by the spirit helps in abiding in Christ with prayers and supplications. Also a good thing to know is that this Kingdom of God that is filled with believer, have the spirit, have the family of believers to meet throughout life as they go and put God first in life over everything else even family. Though believer are called not only to love their family, friends, widows, rich, orphans, enemies with agape love and to live by the spirit. Which the Kingdom that Jesus rules in, is not a kingdom of earth, but a kingdom of the heavenly and spiritual.

 

[ChristisGod]

Matt Slick is associated with CARM.org, and most of what is posted on their website is sound. But they also promote Calvinism so people should be wary.

Yes a Calvinist who’s apologetics are lacking . I know many Calvinists online forums who can defend it better than him and on other topics as well