No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[Rockerduck]

If one pulls a text out of context, one can make it say whatever one desires.
However, the whole context is about changing one's outlook. It is about being in the Spirit and living in the Spirit. One can change. That change comes by man's will. God does not decide for man what he becomes. We are going to be judged by what we did with the call of God which comes to all men.
Your view rejects the overwhelming view of scripture regarding God's view of man, a creature He created in order to communicate with Him freely, Your view rejects God's love.

Look up Sanctification. God changes you; you cannot change yourself, except by repentance. The nano second you are Born Again from above, God begins a work in you to change you into the image of Christ. It is Jesus that is the Author and finisher of your Faith. Get that? Jesus wrote your book; He is the Author of your life. Hebrews 12:2.

 

[Rightglory]

Look up Sanctification. God changes you; you cannot change yourself, except by repentance. The nano second you are Born Again from above, God begins a work in you to change you into the image of Christ. It is Jesus that is the Author and finisher of your Faith. Get that? Jesus wrote your book; He is the Author of your life. Hebrews 12:2.

You defeat your whole premise by stating that nothing happens except by repentance. The Holy Spirit works upon every human being, first to move you to accept Christ. Then He works with you to become Christlike, to reach for perfection through a commitment to Christ. It is all based on man freely exercising his free agency. Man can reject the work of the Holy Spirit. We are warned against quenching the Holy
Spirit. I Thess 5:19

 

[Rockerduck]

You defeat your whole premise by stating that nothing happens except by repentance. The Holy Spirit works upon every human being, first to move you to accept Christ. Then He works with you to become Christlike, to reach for perfection through a commitment to Christ. It is all based on man freely exercising his free agency. Man can reject the work of the Holy Spirit. We are warned against quenching the Holy
Spirit. I Thess 5:19

Read what I wrote. The nano second you are Born Again from above, God begins a work in you to change you into the image of Christ. You must be born again from above. No Holy Spirit = no Heaven. Now let me explain what 1 Thess. 5:19 means, because the Apostle Paul explains it in
Ephesians 4:29-31 -29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice.

You must receive the Holy Spirit to be sealed for the day of redemption.

 

[Behold]

Jesus wrote your book; He is the Author of your life. Hebrews 12:2.

God does not choose some for Hell and some for Heaven.
God does not pre-destine anyone's faith.
God offers the WAY to Heaven,, (John 14:6)... and Christ rejected leaves only one other option...., and the person decides.

 

[Rockerduck]

God does not choose some for Hell and some for Heaven.
God does not pre-destine anyone's faith.
God offers the WAY to Heaven,, (John 14:6)... and Christ rejected leaves only one other option...., and the person decides.

You got that from where ?

 

[brightfame52]

Those have free will?

After they're regeneration and saved they freely believe. Before that however as natural man they don't have freewil to believe in Jesus

 

[brightfame52]

God does not choose some for Hell and some for Heaven

Actually He does. You and I both had our destiny predetermined by God before we were ever born.

 

[Behold]

You got that from where ?

The New Testament.
Do you own one?

John 3:16..........>>"For God so loved the WORLD"........(and that is Everyone. who is in it)......that He GAVE JESUS"...= To the World.

How?

A.) "ALL who call on the name of Jesus (believing) shall be SAVED".

Notice this verse.

Jesus said.....>"If I be lifted up....(on The Cross).. I will draw ALL people to me".

= ""All"" means ALL........means "THE WORLD".......means EVERYONE.......is being drawn by the Holy Spirit to come and Trust in Christ.

"Jesus came to save SINNERS".........not just the predestined, as Lying Calvinism teaches.

Everyone is invited to Heaven.....as The Cross of Christ is the UNIVERSAL OFFER..........to "ALL">.

 

[Behold]

Actually He does.You and I both had our destiny predetermined by God before we were ever born.

Tell us then.......Who in your family did God not allow to go to Heaven? @brightfame52
And then tell us why they are sent to Hell, and you were not.

 

[Rightglory]

Read what I wrote. The nano second you are Born Again from above, God begins a work in you to change you into the image of Christ. You must be born again from above. No Holy Spirit = no Heaven. Now let me explain what 1 Thess. 5:19 means, because the Apostle Paul explains it in
Ephesians 4:29-31 -29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice.

You must receive the Holy Spirit to be sealed for the day of redemption.

Again, in order to have the Holy Spirit one must believe and be baptized. Believing and being baptized is a choice of every man. To be sealed does not mean one is held against his own will by God. Many men have rejected Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit in their lives. The NT give many examples of such individuals. Our salvation is a mutual cooperative effort.

 

[brightfame52]

Tell us then.......Who in your family did God not allow to go to Heaven? @brightfame52
And then tell us why they are sent to Hell, and you were not.

Maybe We will talk about it on Judgment day!

 

[Rightglory]

Maybe We will talk about it on Judgment day!

If our eternal destiny was predetermined before we even existed, why would there be a judgement? What would be the purpose of such a judgement?

 

[brightfame52]

If our eternal destiny was predetermined before we even existed, why would there be a judgement? What would be the purpose of such a judgement?

Why not be a Judgment?

 

[Rightglory]

Why not be a Judgment?

That is what I asked you? What would you be judging?

 

[brightfame52]

That is what I asked you? What would you be judging?

I dont see why though, God is perfectly Sovereign to do what He wants. If He wanted to create some humans to sin and then judge them and damn them for it, iis His business, who are we to question God

 

[Rightglory]

I dont see why though, God is perfectly Sovereign to do what He wants. If He wanted to create some humans to sin and then judge them and damn them for it, iis His business, who are we to question God

You didn't answer the question. I'm assuming your view on predestination is correct.
God before time determined the end for all humans. Some he chose, some were condemned.
Now the question. Given this view, the Bible speaks many times about being judged. What in your view is being judged when everything was predetermined?

 

[brightfame52]

You didn't answer the question. I'm assuming your view on predestination is correct.
God before time determined the end for all humans. Some he chose, some were condemned.
Now the question. Given this view, the Bible speaks many times about being judged. What in your view is being judged when everything was predetermined?

I did answer even if you don't like it

 

[Rightglory]

I did answer even if you don't like it

No, you did not answer it. You gave a nonrelevant response. It is not a matter of not liking it, it is a matter of it being nonsense, illogical, and cannot be supported in scripture. You hold a view of predestination, however when other texts in scripture clearly oppose such a view, you cannot reconcile the two. You just give these glib, nonsensical responses as if they are actually answers.

 

[brightfame52]

No, you did not answer it. You gave a nonrelevant response. It is not a matter of not liking it, it is a matter of it being nonsense, illogical, and cannot be supported in scripture. You hold a view of predestination, however when other texts in scripture clearly oppose such a view, you cannot reconcile the two. You just give these glib, nonsensical responses as if they are actually answers.

I did answer even if you don't like it