Non Imputation of sin a gospel truth

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savedbygrace57

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rom 4:6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 2c or 5:19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. As scripture teaches, there is a truth that is proclaimed, and that is non imputation of sin..There is a world [jew and gentile elect] that God has not imputed sin unto them..2 cor 5 19and in time, through christ, the Holy Ghost applies and reveals to the individuals to whom this non imputation applies..rom 4 7-8The reason why this blessed group of people dont have sin imputed to them, is because all their sins were imputed to or laid upon their surety..isa 53:6All we[ The church] like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. This laying of iniquity on him[Jesus christ their head], is another way of saying imputed on him was their sins..He bore the churches iniquties..11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their[ the chosen of God] iniquities. heb 7:22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. The imputation of the sins of the elect unto christ was before his incarnation, for it [their sins impiued to him] was the reason why he came into the world to do the Father's will..heb 10:5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. So God had already determined and christ was already responsible for the iniquities of the elect world..hence, he and the elect both cannot be held responible for the same sins..christ was made responsible in the eyes of God and His Holy Law, for the sins of the elect race..hence the message of the cross 1 cor 15:3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scripturesThis is because they had been imputed to him and not unto the elect world..This as i have shown is also part of the gospel message. 2 cor 5:19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliationThe word of reconciliation is a gospel theme..and it has to do with the non imputation of the sins of the elect world to them and laid on christ..Now, when did this imputation take place ? Was it at the cross ? No, it was before the world began in the making of the everlasting covenant, when The sheperd was elected[ by The Fatherand Holy Ghost] to shed his blood for the sheep..at this time he became the surety of the covenant..So, in actuality, because of this, the elect, were already eternally Justified in Gods mind, because of this covenant engagement, and so being, the sins of the elect were not imputed to the elect but to their sheperd and head..This is a gospel truth of the kingdom..matt 24:14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come
 

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Amen and Amen...have you ever read John Murray's "Redemption: Accomplished and Applied"...? read anything you can by him... IMHO of course... another absolute classic on tis is John Owen's "The Death of Death in the Death of Christ"... absolutely smashes Arminianism... and I am betting you could find it online for free....what authors do you enjoy reading...?blessings,ken
 

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I heard it said once that we are justified by faith, but that we are sanctified by the law. He who made that statement was trying to motivate the people to obey God's law, because this is God's standard of sin and righteousness. However, he fell into the same trap that men have fallen into for thousands of years. Paul made a profound statement in Galatians 3:3. It reads,3Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?No matter how sincere we are in our "decision" to follow Jesus, no matter how austere we become in our asceticism and beating down of the flesh, all our efforts fall short. This mortal flesh is simply incapable of perfection, and it requires the fullness of the Spirit to bring it to incorruption and perfection. This fullness has yet to be given to men, except for Jesus Himself.Paul explains in Romans 4 that we have been imputed righteous. The definition of imputation is found in verse 17: God calls what is not as though it were. Paul's illustration of this is Abraham. While Abraham was yet childless, God said, "A father of many nations have I made you" (Rom. 4:17). In other words, God imputed millions of descendants to Abraham, calling what was not as though it were. Abraham believed God, and so it was imputed to him for righteousness (Romans 4:3 and 22).Logabe
 

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Paul explains in Romans 4 that we have been imputed righteous. The definition of imputation is found in verse 17: God calls what is not as though it were.
Do you believe in eternal Justification of the elect of God ? Meaning God concluded them Justified before the world began ?
 

logabe

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Yes I do, but the Elect of God was not justified legally until Jesus died on the cross. In other words, God madeit legal in the Divine Court after Jesus died.Hebrews 9:24 says,For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.So I believe that God imputes or "calls what is not as though it is",He calls us righteous, but we are still in incorruption and mortal. Now because we believe the report of His Son, we are justified. In order to be Elected, we must become obedient to His Word. Example: "Love your enemies". That is impossible in our mortal state.If we learn that lesson by the Spirit, we will treat our enemies as our-selves and it is no more us doing it, but Christ in us. If we don't, we willdisqualify ourselves from the First Resurrection. In other words, God willnot Elect us as the Firstfruits.Logabe
 

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Yes I do, but the Elect of God was not justified legally until Jesus died on the cross. In other words, God madeit legal in the Divine Court after Jesus died.
No they were legally Justified in Gods Mind, even though the actual in time occurence of the basis of their Justification, had not happened..but in Gods eternal mind, time is no factor..The actual payment of the elects sins wasnt until the cross, but the benfits of it are from the beginning of time..