Not a future seeing Jesus coming guy
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soberxp
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Revelation 1 - 20 is the wrapping of the Mosaic Age... With the newness we live in and can see the picture remaining.
SoberXp, sounds like a testimony or something. Glad you met Jesus dude. Awesome.
I didnt read it all. I really hate reading on the computer.
SoberXp, sounds like a testimony or something. Glad you met Jesus dude. Awesome.
I didnt read it all. I really hate reading on the computer.
soberxp
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Yes.I've already seen part of it.
This is true first-hand information,
The name of my city is the same pronounce as Zion in Chinese.This means that Jerusalem does not represent any place on earth.
So how about on the phone? :)
Oh okay SoberXp, and that makes sense. We got some churches with the name Zion in them. There probably a place in america, or what not. And ill pass on the whole phone deal.td
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing
Revelation 1 - 20 is the wrapping of the Mosaic Age... With the newness we live in and can see the picture remaining.
The final words of it or close it - is Jesus is coming quickly - it was a remission for the first chapter, and you gotta consider then, all of these things are on a scroll, and there is no chapters.
The audience was very aware - its very jewish in nature concerning it all.
The final words of it or close it - is Jesus is coming quickly - it was a remission for the first chapter, and you gotta consider then, all of these things are on a scroll, and there is no chapters.
The audience was very aware - its very jewish in nature concerning it all.
I think it is symbolism of an army with the intention of making war, not literal.
Take a look at Revelation 19:11 and Revelation 19:14. Horses are in those passages as well.
Revelation involves the entire population of the earth. The trumpet plagues, the vial plagues, the gathering of the kings of the earth's armies to make war on Jesus and his army of heaven.
None of those things have happen yet.
In Revelation 19 is Jesus's future return to this earth from heaven, with His bride.
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(Full Preterism) Many Within The Church Today Would Consider Heretical, Denial Of A Future Visible Second Coming Of Jesus In The Heavens Is A Foundational Pillar Of The Christian Faith (The Blessed Hope)
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People telling me this is global I believe are wrong, however believe whatever you must.
I know one thing that people at churchs do. They just want ya money, so they keep preaching things to get you to come back.
I'm someone who only has to be authentic and honest. I don't have to cower away in fear of others who do not believe me.
Cause I believe Jesus, and those people in that time were waiting on him to come forward and those whom were faithful seen Jesus come, I belive it was even phsyically... not spiritually...
So... without any proof I continue to stand where I do.
Other people they just continue to suggest and think one way, while I continue suggest and think in a different way.
May the Resurrected Spirit of the Lord Yeshua, help you and lead you to the truth which sets a person free.
I can only imagine the false hope that has been preached and given to others, even predciing Jesus is coming back today or in 2000's or whatever it is... People need to be aware of these things cause
To continue to quote "we are hoping to see our God and lord and saviour appear again"
That was never even written to you, and it was the times of that day in age which tehy were to see it.
So Yeah. Im not trying to win, or anything of nature Im not trying to argue.
I am just giving facts concerning the time and the people and not to disregard that first century bride of Christ.
I know one thing that people at churchs do. They just want ya money, so they keep preaching things to get you to come back.
I'm someone who only has to be authentic and honest. I don't have to cower away in fear of others who do not believe me.
Cause I believe Jesus, and those people in that time were waiting on him to come forward and those whom were faithful seen Jesus come, I belive it was even phsyically... not spiritually...
So... without any proof I continue to stand where I do.
Other people they just continue to suggest and think one way, while I continue suggest and think in a different way.
May the Resurrected Spirit of the Lord Yeshua, help you and lead you to the truth which sets a person free.
I can only imagine the false hope that has been preached and given to others, even predciing Jesus is coming back today or in 2000's or whatever it is... People need to be aware of these things cause
To continue to quote "we are hoping to see our God and lord and saviour appear again"
That was never even written to you, and it was the times of that day in age which tehy were to see it.
So Yeah. Im not trying to win, or anything of nature Im not trying to argue.
I am just giving facts concerning the time and the people and not to disregard that first century bride of Christ.
That is all this section of the board consist of is just rehashments of things people "assume are going to happen in the future"
I am not saying these people don't love God, or don't love Jesus, and love as he does by the resurrected Lord Jesus with in them.
I am saying though, you can just watch it full force... I have on many different forum sites, I use to believe Jesus was coming back until someone help me see a little bit different concenring those people of that day in age.
Most people dont give a crap about those people in that day in age, and they just write it off like they wasn't havin problemes
LOL. Yeah okay.
I think this is a weak argument. Ez is obviously not about modern armies. Intention of making war can be expressed easily without saying "all will ride on horses".
No mention of flying or of tanks (iron chariots at least) either. The text contains zero indications it is about our times. And Ethiopia has no reason to invade Israel.
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I understand this context was never written to us but there is something glean from it spiritually...
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Latter days, Latter years, when Israel is a nation again made up of its people coming out of the nations describes modern day Israel.
It is not reasonable to think that tanks, artillery, armored personnel carriers, etc. would have been terms used in the prophecy.
Jesus was the last and greatest prophet... not these people suggesting what is to come in the future.
Revelation reveals many things, and so many people love to hate this world and want to see it destoryed...
Its okay, believe whatever you want.... but prophecy does eventually come to an end.
I wouldn't believe the people who continue to edging on Jesus coming back as though you need to be ready and everything.
Be ready to die one day, love your life and love the world while you can its to short to be playing around with people and giving them false hope....
But I digress there are also people out there claiming they are jesus and stuff, God gives us all choices... choose life.
And life in Christ, carries no fear, or worry. though you will love and worry about things, remember this world is only temporary.
soberxp
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What People Do With Their Life — A Wake-Up Call
People live in fear.
Or distraction. Or pride. Or whatever keeps them from facing the truth.
That’s on them.
Fear is natural — sure. But it’s not meant to be your master.
“For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” — 2 Timothy 1:7
I know some folks think I’m just bull-crapping —
Talking wild about Jesus already coming back.
They roll their eyes,
Their little circles pat each other on the back, saying,
“Don’t worry, He’ll come back one day.”
Like it’s a bedtime story.
Like they’ve got time to waste.
But here’s the thing:
Why do you forget about the audience?
Maybe you didn’t even know there was an audience.
Heaven watches.
Hell watches.
The cloud of witnesses watches.
And the Spirit searches all things — even the deep things of God. (1 Corinthians 2:10)
So here’s my encouragement:
Read the Bible.
Study it like your soul depends on it — because it does.
But if you won’t do that,
At least live by the resurrected Spirit of the Lord Yeshua that dwells within you.
“If the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you,
He who raised Christ will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit.” — Romans 8:11
That’s where you find completion.
Not in perfect theology.
Not in flawless behavior.
But in surrender to the living Christ.
Not everyone’s gonna have it all figured out.
That’s real.
But there is truth — and that truth sets people free.
“You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” — John 8:32
So stop living like the lampstand’s just a metaphor.
He walks among the flames.
He trims the wicks.
He knocks on the door.
And He’s not waiting for your approval — He’s waiting for your response.
When Jesus returns, He will rule the nations with a rod of iron. Men will learn war no more. And beat their spears into plowshares.
Obviously, that has not been the case of the world for 2000 years and present.
Jesus has not yet returned.
