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The disease called sin, that is rotting your soul.
Personally, I don't believe in eternal suffering in hell.
I believe the eternal fire will consume those who have not been reborn.
They will perish, cease to exist.
I believe I'm right.
 
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The disease called sin, that is rotting your soul.
Personally, I don't believe in eternal suffering in hell.
I believe the eternal fire will consume those who have not been reborn.
They will perish, cease to exist.
I believe I'm right.

Man I hope so. I’ve wondered that as well even though some call it heresy. It talks about perishing and destruction.
 
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Man I hope so. I’ve wondered that as well even though some call it heresy. It talks about perishing and destruction.
I honestly believe that it was God who initiated my investigation into this. There's no way I'd say this publicly if I wasn't confident of this. After awhile, you think, "what's one more stone going to do?" Ouch! Lol
I'd suggest that people ask God about it for themselves.
 
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Why do you want me to be a devout Christian? Huh?

Why are you spending time on a Christian Forum? Doesn't it seem a little silly?

You're a professed atheist. What do you hope to find here?

I don't believe in evangelizing the world so you're not gonna catch me begging you to come to Christ - besides that's not how it works anyway.

So, ... why are you here?

If you're giving up on people, what are you going to rely on; what are you going to put your faith in?

Science? FAIL -Science changes its mind every decade, if not more often.

Yourself? FAIL -If that was a winner, you wouldn't be here now having this conversation. You admitted you keep making the same bad decisions that lead to nothing but misery. Can't rely on yourself.

Drugs/Alcohol? FAIL -You already know why.

The World? FAIL -The world is a Circus Fire; a disaster of epic proportions that is out to get you at every turn.

God and the Bible are the only reliable foundation in all the world. Choose Life ... or you are inevitably choosing death. There is no in-between and God didn't build a spiritual fence for you to sit upon until you've made up your mind. Choose one NOW or, by default, you've automatically chosen the other.

Every one of us is alone and unhappy and struggling, and we're all going to die. You might as well be alone and unhappy and struggling as you carry your cross and follow Jesus Christ.

It's not ME that wants you to be a devout Christian, I'm just making a suggestion based on sound logic and reason.
 
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If food was scarce and I found a good supply, I'd tell others where to find it because, I guess, I care.
 
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We can lead a horse to water, but ...

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I have an attitude that will get me into trouble. I'd feed everybody today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. Of course I am single and wouldn't be too terribly shook up if I starved to death.
A secret trout spot would be an exception. I'm not stupid.
 
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Why are you spending time on a Christian Forum? Doesn't it seem a little silly?

You're a professed atheist. What do you hope to find here?

I don't believe in evangelizing the world so you're not gonna catch me begging you to come to Christ - besides that's not how it works anyway.

So, ... why are you here?

If you're giving up on people, what are you going to rely on; what are you going to put your faith in?

Science? FAIL -Science changes its mind every decade, if not more often.

Yourself? FAIL -If that was a winner, you wouldn't be here now having this conversation. You admitted you keep making the same bad decisions that lead to nothing but misery. Can't rely on yourself.

Drugs/Alcohol? FAIL -You already know why.

The World? FAIL -The world is a Circus Fire; a disaster of epic proportions that is out to get you at every turn.

God and the Bible are the only reliable foundation in all the world. Choose Life ... or you are inevitably choosing death. There is no in-between and God didn't build a spiritual fence for you to sit upon until you've made up your mind. Choose one NOW or, by default, you've automatically chosen the other.

Every one of us is alone and unhappy and struggling, and we're all going to die. You might as well be alone and unhappy and struggling as you carry your cross and follow Jesus Christ.

It's not ME that wants you to be a devout Christian, I'm just making a suggestion based on sound logic and reason.
Why would I believe in a God who does nothing to correct his own Church. Christianity is divided against itself, and we know how that will end.
 

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I have an attitude that will get me into trouble. I'd feed everybody today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. Of course I am single and wouldn't be too terribly shook up if I starved to death.
A secret trout spot would be an exception. I'm not stupid.
Slow down there Wilbur.
 
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Jesus saves us from the death sentence we all earned in the lake of fire . Praise the LORD >
You know why Christianity is not true? Because almost all Christian's only believe in Jesus to avoid hell. That's a big chunk of evidence of something being very wrong with love.
 

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You know why Christianity is not true? Because almost all Christian's only believe in Jesus to avoid hell. That's a big chunk of evidence of something being very wrong with love.

It’s hard to explain the supernatural meeting that you can have with him when you seek him. But I when you actually put your guard down humble yourself enough to admit that this could all be created by someone that is waaaaaaayyyyyyy smarter than man and actually seek him, he will reveal himself to you. You don’t even have to seek for Jesus, just seek for God and he’ll let you know he is real and he’ll let you know who he is. He is no respecter of persons. What he will do for one person he will do for another. But if you are just arguing his non existence then you will never find him. And if you actually knew him there is no way you would ever turn down his offer. Just throwing my two cents in. I won’t argue with you. God bless.
 
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Whatever. Believe what you want. Some believe in God. Some don't I've decided that everything is God's thing. I don't need to convince anyone of anything. I can answer someone with what I believe is truth. Beyond that, I have to deal with my unpleasant reality. Later.
 

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Why would I believe in a God who does nothing to correct his own Church.
Why are you spending every day in a Christian Forum?

Like most of humanity, you're confused about who God's Church is. Regardless, God is clear on His position about those who live in sin. If that's how we choose to live, we are the ones who need correction. He is the Potter, we are the clay. Not the other way around.
You know why Christianity is not true? Because almost all Christian's only believe in Jesus to avoid hell. … Christianity is divided against itself, and we know how that will end.
Most professed Christians are not Christians at all. True Christians are not divided. And Yes, the Bible is very clear on how it will end.
That's a big chunk of evidence of something being very wrong with love.
Everybody has their own definition of love.

True love is defined by God. It is perfect. We are not.

"Love the sinner, hate the sin" is a sinner's creation, a sentiment of the devil.

God is not fooled and He will not be mocked. He sends the sinner to hell, not their sins.

Embrace God and Life, … or embrace death.
 

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It’s hard to explain the supernatural meeting that you can have with him when you seek him. But I when you actually put your guard down humble yourself enough to admit that this could all be created by someone that is waaaaaaayyyyyyy smarter than man and actually seek him, he will reveal himself to you. You don’t even have to seek for Jesus, just seek for God and he’ll let you know he is real and he’ll let you know who he is. He is no respecter of persons. What he will do for one person he will do for another. But if you are just arguing his non existence then you will never find him. And if you actually knew him there is no way you would ever turn down his offer. Just throwing my two cents in. I won’t argue with you. God bless.
If you or anyone here can bring themselves to put their own children in an oven because they disobey them, then please throw your hand(s) up now.
 

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Whatever. Believe what you want. Some believe in God. Some don't I've decided that everything is God's thing. I don't need to convince anyone of anything. I can answer someone with what I believe is truth. Beyond that, I have to deal with my unpleasant reality. Later.
I choose not to believe. That would then make me the AntiChrist. Jesus said belief saves you, and I say not believing saves you.
 

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If you or anyone here can bring themselves to put their own children in an oven because they disobey them, then please throw your hand(s) up now.

They are not his children. They are children of the Devil. Children that kill steal and destroy. I don't blame him for the judgement. The means of death is irrelevant. True christianity is humbling yourself before the maker. We are horrible. Mankind is horrible. He is offering a way out of this mess. You are refusing the way out. You'll get what you deserve, I won't get what I deserve. The choice is pretty clear to me.
 
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