Obama playing God

[Ruth]

Pres. Obama believes he can over ride Gods plan for marriage....pray for this lost soul.
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The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to strike down the federal law defining marriage as a union between only a man and a woman.

The request regarding the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act was made Friday in a brief by Solicitor General Donald Verrilli that argues the law is unconstitutional because it violates "the fundamental guarantee of equal protection."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/23/obama-considers-weighing-in-on-gay-marriage-case/#ixzz2Ljt6XRrw

 

[Brothertom]

THE SECRET AGENDA OF OBAMA & ISLAM TO ANNIHILATE AMERICA.

. Obama is getting bolder every day blatantly destroying every vestige of American power with both hands. He is anointed by God to do so, just as The Chaldean's were to Israel. America has become a greedy God-hater defying Him at every turn, & very soon, our destruction will fall upon us.

"Render to her just as she rendered to you,and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’

Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.".......


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Obama to Shut Down Southern Air Defense Systems: “It Will Be Open Season for Terrorists Flying In With Nukes, Low Altitude Missiles, Or Even Full Scale Invasion of America”


http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/obama-to-shut-down-southern-air-defense-systems-it-will-be-open-season-for-terrorists-flying-in-with-nukes-low-altitude-missiles-or-even-full-scale-invasion-of-america_01232013
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Our President is a Muslim, & it appears to me he is actively orchestrating the destruction of America on many fronts, while promoting the cause of Muslim Socialism everywhere else. He is actively increasing our debt to stellar proportions to collapse our economy, & has decimated our once fierce military into third world status, & demoralized her by validating homosexuality within her ranks. The coming "Sequestration", auto-matic discretionary spending cuts will further weaken us, slashing 50-70% of our power; no money, no army.

He promoted, financed & supported the "Arab Spring", which was always a thinly veiled establishment of Radical Jihad to Establish the Caliphate: The United states of Islam.


Africa is now engulfed in the struggle, & Sharia Law is encroaching upon every strata there, & winning. [ The spirit of merciless murder upon all who will not bow to Allah.] We have just given Morsi, the Egytian President, hater of Israel & radical Jihadist, 16 of our advanced air-attack fighter jets.

http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/5075-us-to-send-egypt-f16-fighter-jets-despite-israeli-opposition

The Lord has shown me, in clear visions & audible word, that America would lose a war where we were attacked, & invaded by the largest army ever assembled; 20 million. This army will be an occupying army, & will embed itself in American cities, where once there, cannot be dislodged.

I watched an Air War go on & on & on off the coast of Texas. [1997] When we thought we might win it, the enemy threw in more fighters, & when we were depleted by their sheer numbers, we were overwhelmed. This is the first battle for air superiority; We lose. Out of this battle, the Lord will release "The Tree of Healing For All Nations", which means maturity & power in the Church. When anyone or anything touches the Church, they will touch Jesus Himself, & it is this church in America that will be there upon His return; It is this church that will manifest maturity unwaning, & the church of instant maturity, Pure & Spotless, that Amos saw.....when the treader of grapes is overcome by the seed sower.

I was in a vision in the sands of a beach, near Texas, hiding in the reeds, looking out upon the Ocean, when I heard the sound of Armies Marching; Cadence. The whole Earth shook, as their boots hit the ground, like thunder. I watched as this army came out of the Sea, multitudes of soldiers, all dressed for combat, & travelling light; lean & mean. There were multitudes, & the Word of the Lord came to me over my right shoulder; "20 MILLION". I also knew that their strategy would be to fight to the cities, & occupy, using them as a base.
I believe that this time will see the most glorious & powerful church that we can imagine; doing exploits, with many martyrs too. I got this Emailed to me today, about the destruction of our Air-Defense system. I wanted to add, that the FIRST DAY of office, Obama nixed 160 American fighter jets, 10 times more advanced than any other thought of.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/22/nation/na-f-22-plane22

Russia & China are doing SECRET war maneuvers & China has stealth war-planes, & attack Air-Craft Carriers. In the end, I see this all turning over to Radical Islam. The Anti-Christ will meet out 10 thrones for the kings he appoints to rule over. There is a conspiracy to establish this New World Order happening NOW, & we are spectators. We are close to the End of Days.

JUSTICE & GLORY: AMERICA'S TIME IN THE GREAT TRIBULATION.

http://brideinthewilderness.blogspot.com

 

[HammerStone]

The Islam thesis doesn't work, as Islam is far less receptive to gay marriage than Christianity. You don't lose a privilege, but you instead lose your life in that religion for committing that sin.

From a civic/legal perspective, gay marriage is now a lost cause.

 

[Selene]

Pres. Obama believes he can over ride Gods plan for marriage....pray for this lost soul.
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The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to strike down the federal law defining marriage as a union between only a man and a woman.

The request regarding the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act was made Friday in a brief by Solicitor General Donald Verrilli that argues the law is unconstitutional because it violates "the fundamental guarantee of equal protection."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/23/obama-considers-weighing-in-on-gay-marriage-case/#ixzz2Ljt6XRrw

After gay marriage, then the polygamists will come out of the woodworks and demand the same equal rights. Then who knows...the pedophiles will be next demanding the same equal rights to marry children and get rid of the age limit. There is a reason why marriage (like everything else) has limits. Gay people already have the right to marry like everyone else. What they really want is to get rid of a restriction to marriage.

 

[Ruth]

I am sure it could even get more wicked, like someone wanting to marry their pet.

The bible teaches in the end times people will lose all common sense, and will no longer recognize sin.

Get out there and spread the gospel message, it cures all sin.

 

[Selene]

I am sure it could even get more wicked, like someone wanting to marry their pet.

The bible teaches in the end times people will lose all common sense, and will no longer recognize sin.

Get out there and spread the gospel message, it cures all sin.

Yep. Some people are already buying clothes for their pets. It's only a matter of time before they would want to marry their pets too.

 

[Axehead]

Psa 11:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
Psa 11:2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
Psa 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
Psa 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
Psa 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Psa 11:6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
Psa 11:7 For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.

There is much today that can harden one's heart. We must continue to trust in the Lord, speak the truth and love the sinners. Speaking the truth is loving them, though they may disagree.

 

[afaithfulone4u]

After gay marriage, then the polygamists will come out of the woodworks and demand the same equal rights. Then who knows...the pedophiles will be next demanding the same equal rights to marry children and get rid of the age limit. There is a reason why marriage (like everything else) has limits. Gay people already have the right to marry like everyone else. What they really want is to get rid of a restriction to marriage.

Beastiality is already being promoted as we see human being treating them like family, dressing them in clothes, allowing them to sleep in our beds and now a pig driving a car and a young girl hoping to make out when they get stranded, on the Geico commercial. You may say this is just in fun.. but it is how the enemy tempts man and brings the SUGGESTION of such a thing to topic so that they will talk about it and agree that Well, that ain't so bad... everyone one's else is doing it.....

And while I understand it is God who allows all things for the testing of men's hearts and it is He who sets up kings that also test and try the hearts of men.
I seems Obama-nation uses the school shooting that massacred innocent children as reasons for gun control... all the while signing into human rights to massacre daily 1,000's of innocent children by abortion!!

 

[aspen]

you know, I think you guys are really going off the deep end. Grandmas who dress up their toy poodles in clothes are not close to having sex with them ...... give me a break. People used to live with their animals in Jesus's time - they were no more likely to have sex with them either.

 

[KCKID]

you know, I think you guys are really going off the deep end. Grandmas who dress up their toy poodles in clothes are not close to having sex with them ...... give me a break. People used to live with their animals in Jesus's time - they were no more likely to have sex with them either.

Lest I be accused of siding with you it's the common sense aspect of your post that I'm siding with. I don't recall having seen nonsense as contained in some of the posts here. That said, marriage predates the Bible anyway, in fact it could be considered to be a pagan ritual.

After gay marriage, then the polygamists will come out of the woodworks and demand the same equal rights. Then who knows...the pedophiles will be next demanding the same equal rights to marry children and get rid of the age limit. There is a reason why marriage (like everything else) has limits. Gay people already have the right to marry like everyone else. What they really want is to get rid of a restriction to marriage.

Are you aware that many girls married and were pregnant by the age of 12 in the good old days that you would seem to want to return to? And, this was fine with God. Did you know that it would have been common for these 12 year-olds to marry/have intercourse with men much older than themselves? And, while this would be regarded as pedophilia today ...again, this was apparently fine with God. Then, how about polygamy that was so much the norm in the days of yore? The guy known as 'wise', Mr Solomon, had 1000 wives and concubines to satisfy his sexual urges. Again, fine with God. So, what do you think of the 'no limit' God when it comes to marriage? Evidently, Obama is far from playing God!

By the way, I'm just the messenger so don't shoot me.

 

[Ruth]

Lest I be accused of siding with you it's the common sense aspect of your post that I'm siding with. I don't recall having seen nonsense as contained in some of the posts here. That said, marriage predates the Bible anyway, in fact it could be considered to be a pagan ritual.

Are you aware that many girls married and were pregnant by the age of 12 in the good old days that you would seem to want to return to? And, this was fine with God. Did you know that it would have been common for these 12 year-olds to marry/have intercourse with men much older than themselves? And, while this would be regarded as pedophilia today ...again, this was apparently fine with God. Then, how about polygamy that was so much the norm in the days of yore? The guy known as 'wise', Mr Solomon, had 1000 wives and concubines to satisfy his sexual urges. Again, fine with God. So, what do you think of the 'no limit' God when it comes to marriage? Evidently, Obama is far from playing God!

By the way, I'm just the messenger so don't shoot me.

You do not know how to read the history and theology of the bible.

many of the laws and cultural practices were changed when Christ came, going back to what God had originally ordained for His children. We are to follow the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.
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3) Why did it change?

It is not so much God’s disallowing something He previously allowed as it is God’s restoring marriage to His original plan. Even going back to Adam and Eve, polygamy was not God’s original intent.

God seems to have allowed polygamy to solve a problem, but it is not the ideal. In most modern societies, there is absolutely no need for polygamy. In most cultures today, women are able to provide for and protect themselves—removing the only “positive” aspect of polygamy.

Further, most modern nations outlaw polygamy. According to Romans 13:1-7, we are to obey the laws the government establishes. The only instance in which disobeying the law is permitted by Scripture is if the law contradicts God’s commands (Acts 5:29). Since God only allows for polygamy, and does not command it, a law prohibiting polygamy should be upheld.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/polygamy.html#ixzz2MDH1hz33

 

[KCKID]

Ruth: You do not know how to read the history and theology of the bible.

KCKID: Yeah, so I've been told by several people on this forum. Must be true.

Ruth: many of the laws and cultural practices were changed when Christ came, going back to what God had originally ordained for His children. We are to follow the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.

KCKID: Um, where are we told in scripture that marital and cultural practices were changed when Christ came? Furthermore, why WOULD they change just because Christ came?

What are the teachings of the apostles with regard to marriage? When (from scripture) was polygamy revoked? Where (from scripture) was there a minimum age limit introduced for girls to marry and a maximum age limit introduced for adult men to marry the said girl?
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Ruth: 3) Why did it change?

It is not so much God’s disallowing something He previously allowed as it is God’s restoring marriage to His original plan. Even going back to Adam and Eve, polygamy was not God’s original intent.

KCKID: Nor, I'm sure was it God's original intent for Adam and Eve to foul things up and have the dubious honor of becoming the very first dysfunctional family. I mean, I hope that no one is seriously using Adam and Eve as being the ideal standard for a 'God-ordained marriage' . . .?

 

[Ruth]

Ruth: You do not know how to read the history and theology of the bible.

KCKID: Yeah, so I've been told by several people on this forum. Must be true.
Ruth: many of the laws and cultural practices were changed when Christ came, going back to what God had originally ordained for His children. We are to follow the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.

KCKID: Um, where are we told in scripture that marital and cultural practices were changed when Christ came? Furthermore, why WOULD they change just because Christ came?

What are the teachings of the apostles with regard to marriage? When (from scripture) was polygamy revoked? Where (from scripture) was there a minimum age limit introduced for girls to marry and a maximum age limit introduced for adult men to marry the said girl?
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Ruth: 3) Why did it change?
It is not so much God’s disallowing something He previously allowed as it is God’s restoring marriage to His original plan. Even going back to Adam and Eve, polygamy was not God’s original intent.

KCKID: Nor, I'm sure was it God's original intent for Adam and Eve to foul things up and have the dubious honor of becoming the very first dysfunctional family. I mean, I hope that no one is seriously using Adam and Eve as being the ideal standard for a 'God-ordained marriage' . . .?

Jesus gathered the apostles, filling them with His Spirit to spread the message of salvation and how to live holy, which in many ways are much different than when they were living under the OT, just one example, everything is clean that God has made, they could eat anything but sacrificed animals to idols, and could not eat blood.

I would suggest to you, for starts, just to read the beatitudes, in this teaching alone He is demonstrating that what the Jews were believing was only half correct, changing their perception on just how Holy He is.

A person must pray and ask the Holy Spirit to teach them as they read scripture, it is a supernatural book, a person must understand the the old and new covnant, a Christian must understand how God wants us to live holy, or God will not hear your prayers, your once white garment will become filthy, your lamp oil will go out, and then when Christ returns like a thief in the night, He will make the sorrowful claim...."I never knew you ".

Many Christians are under the false assumption that because they are under grace they can go on sinning after they receive salvation....WRONG....that is only one part of the covanet with Jesus, we are then to repent and live under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, not to submit to our worldly pleasures any longer, .....a person who keeps living in sin after receiving the knowledge of Christ Crusified, will receive many warnings from the Holy Spirit to stop sinning, God is slow to anger and very merciful, but If you continue to submit to your sin and not God (a believer can not have two Masters) you have chosen to break your covenant with God, and there is no longer grace for you, but hell.

Hebrew 6

6 So let us stop going over the basic teachings about Christ again and again. Let us go on instead and become mature in our understanding. Surely we don’t need to start again with the fundamental importance of repenting from evil deeds and placing our faith in God

4 For it is impossible to bring back to repentance those who were once enlightened—those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come— 6 and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him up to public shame.

7 When the ground soaks up the falling rain and bears a good crop for the farmer, it has God’s blessing. 8 But if a field bears thorns and thistles, it is useless. The farmer will soon condemn that field and burn it.
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Revelation 3

“I know all the things you do, and that you have a reputation for being alive—but you are dead. 2 Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God. 3 Go back to what you heard and believed at first; hold to it firmly. Repent and turn to me again. If you don’t wake up, I will come to you suddenly, as unexpected as a thief.

4 “Yet there are some in the church in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes with evil. They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels that they are mine. (THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT GOD ERACES NAMES FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE)

 

[SilenceInMotion]

Obama is a socialist, and socialism is watered down communism. But because Obama is making such extreme moves, there isn't much water there- Obama is a commie.

I don't know if the world has forgotten history or what, but it's commonly said that those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. There is no religion in communism- communism has always been attributed with seculaism. And the first step in communism is taking away arms, because an untame dog will attack it's owner. Take China for instance- nationalists import guns for their cause.

The UK has taken away guns, and the Church of England is growing so worldly that I have a hard time even calling it a Christian institution. It should have never existed in the first place for one, and now it's commiting sacrilege. The UK will be a communist state by 2035. That is my wager. As for America, I see an ultimatum- it's either going to thrive, or it's going to altogether perish, being turned back into the economical land it was before the Revolutionary War.