Corlove13
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"Tong2020, post: 1011611, member: 8685"]Pardon, but I just can’t quite understand. There is this “keeping the law through their flesh”,
The flesh is man's natural abilities ..
The law was used to show why they needed Jesus.
Yet it was a law after man current nature which was [fallen]
And that is how many sought to keep it by their natural abilities....
It was a law that kept the outside [covered] but could not cleanse the conscience
Let me try to think of an analogy:
I comand a daughter to pick up the
Piano without scraping or touching the ground with the foreknowledge she will need help and I will eventually supply her that help. But she doesn't know that.....
So she goes to pick it up and finds out she can't do it. My goal in giving her that command was so she would find out she needed help. My command is still the same...
But now I offer her Help...I give her 2 brothers..and she fullfills my command.
So before she was the direct source of lifting
But now she is no longer, because she has Help.......and with that help she fullfill my command.
Now this is not the best example...because it leave much falling short....but hope that helps. In some areas with...going back to what I've already written.
So to pick up the piano on her own...is not the source[way]....why because the new Source is Her brothers .....but the course is still picking up the piano.
The course generally is the way you want something done....rather the path or goal
“law as source of salvation” and “law no longer source of the flesh” which I really do not know what you meant by those. Anyway, no need to explain further. I’ll leave it at that.
Instead let us talk about what scriptures calls the righteousness of faith and the law of righteousness.
Would you tell me what is the law of righteousness that scriptures refer to and the righteousness of faith, in your reading of scriptures?
Give me a scripture and I'll do my best with the knowledge I have.
Tong
The flesh is man's natural abilities ..
The law was used to show why they needed Jesus.
Yet it was a law after man current nature which was [fallen]
And that is how many sought to keep it by their natural abilities....
It was a law that kept the outside [covered] but could not cleanse the conscience
Let me try to think of an analogy:
I comand a daughter to pick up the
Piano without scraping or touching the ground with the foreknowledge she will need help and I will eventually supply her that help. But she doesn't know that.....
So she goes to pick it up and finds out she can't do it. My goal in giving her that command was so she would find out she needed help. My command is still the same...
But now I offer her Help...I give her 2 brothers..and she fullfills my command.
So before she was the direct source of lifting
But now she is no longer, because she has Help.......and with that help she fullfill my command.
Now this is not the best example...because it leave much falling short....but hope that helps. In some areas with...going back to what I've already written.
So to pick up the piano on her own...is not the source[way]....why because the new Source is Her brothers .....but the course is still picking up the piano.
The course generally is the way you want something done....rather the path or goal
“law as source of salvation” and “law no longer source of the flesh” which I really do not know what you meant by those. Anyway, no need to explain further. I’ll leave it at that.
Instead let us talk about what scriptures calls the righteousness of faith and the law of righteousness.
Would you tell me what is the law of righteousness that scriptures refer to and the righteousness of faith, in your reading of scriptures?
Give me a scripture and I'll do my best with the knowledge I have.
Tong