Right farouk.@Pearl It's all in the nature of accepting what is revealed in Scripture, right?
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Right farouk.@Pearl It's all in the nature of accepting what is revealed in Scripture, right?
Simon Peter said to Jesus "You are the son of God" and Jesus said "yup"..:) (Matthew 16:13:17)
Have you come to this understanding by reading your bible alone or have you done bible studies with others who have the same point of view?I’m not denying the fact that God is with Jesus , that does not make Jesus God or we would have 2 Gods and scriptures are clear that there is only 1 God . Find a verse that says Jesus is God , or even better Jesus saying he is God , or God saying Jesus is himself . I know they don’t exist so don’t bother trying to find them .
Absolutely true.and Thomas said to Jesus... You are my '"Lord and My God."""
And the reason the Jesus didn't correct him, is ... = why would God correct the Truth?
Philippians 2:10-11We all should know when Jesus said in John 8. And many places for example v42 for I proceeded forth and came from God ; neither came I of myself , but he sent me .
Now read Isaiah 44.24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone , that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself . Jesus never spoke like this ever , he always acknowledged God as his father also . Was Jesus formed in a womb ? Was Jesus with the father before the world also spiritually ? Yes but he was with God and not the Very God himself or Jesus would have said so , as God himself has said many many times like this verse in Isaiah.
So God is with Jesus , that does not make Jesus God , can a creation be creator or one formed in the womb be creator . Not according to Jesus . Or The father who is God alone.
Did you notice that when Jesus said before Abraham was I Am , he stopped short of saying GOD
Son of GOD and not GOD himself , only 1 God but you seem to avoid that fact .
If you acknowledge that Thomas called Jesus "My God", and you realize that Jesus did not deny this statement, then either He is God, or He sinned by receiving glory and worship due only to God.Tomas called Jesus My God and Jesus did not confirm it ,
Brilliant point there.In Revelation, they worship the Lamb and we are only to worship God. So not only did Jesus not correct the disciple who called Him God, but in heaven, God allows worship of someone other than Himself and doesn’t correct it either…? You seem to avoid that fact.
That’s a lame remark , how do you know Jesus did not correct him , we know he did not commend him .If you acknowledge that Thomas called Jesus "My God", and you realize that Jesus did not deny this statement, then either He is God, or He sinned by receiving glory and worship due only to God.
Plain and simple. As are all the statements by which we know Jesus is in fact God Himself, YHWH.
Much love!
If you acknowledge that Thomas called Jesus "My God", and you realize that Jesus did not deny this statement, then either He is God, or He sinned by receiving glory and worship due only to God.
Plain and simple. As are all the statements by which we know Jesus is in fact God Himself, YHWH.
Much love!
that’s an assumption on your part , sorry let’s see some solid verses that can not be mistaken like In Isaiah many times , but you refuse to acknowledge them , why ?
How do you know Jesus did not correct him ? He may have done it another time , but you must acknowledge Jesus did not commend Thomas like Peter he did , you are grasping at straws …and Thomas said to Jesus... You are my '"Lord and My God."""
And the reason the Jesus didn't correct him, is ... = why would God correct the Truth?
Hardly, God has no problem saying he is God and no others , that’s a real stretch on your part . Again if you understand that God is father of all then it makes perfect sense , you people can’t tell the difference between the father and Son . Ask you child if they can tell the difference? when Jesus called God his father , what part of that statement do you not understand? Ask you child for clarification if need be . Deception is a powerful thing …Have you come to this understanding by reading your bible alone or have you done bible studies with others who have the same point of view?
I have already quoted number of those scriptures so guess what, they do actually exist. Both God the Father and Jesus, God the Son claim to be the begining and the end. Jesus said he saw Satan fall from heaven. So he was there at the start. The bible tells us that through Jesus all things were created.
Have you never seen these scriptures? Or if you have they obviously have a different meaning than they do to Spirit filled believers.
but you refuse to acknowledge them , why ?
Who said Jesus is a mere man ? That’s your false teaching kicking in again . Jesus is not God and Jesus is not a mere man . He is the Son of God that is neither . Go by the scriptures, not mens ideas of scriptures.I do understand but still don't get your take on it. I agree that Jesus is God's son. But not just a mere man - he was supernaturally conceived and was without sin. Not just that he never sinned but that he was actually completely without sin.
So many people accept untruths because they can't get their heads around the enormity of Jesus being God. But looking at God logically will never get you to the truth of things. We have to accept the truths - even seemingly impossible ones - in our hearts by the Spirit and not in our minds through logic.
But I wish you well.
Maybe someday you will learn , one day all will .Apparently so!!
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Jesus later corrected Peter for denying him remember, Jesus said nothing at the time , but he did fire warn Peter , and he also told the disciples he would rise again beforehand.That’s a lame remark , how do you know Jesus did not correct him , we know he did not commend him .
The lamb is worthy to be worshipped, not sure how you got off track !In Revelation, they worship the Lamb and we are only to worship God. So not only did Jesus not correct the disciple who called Him God, but in heaven, God allows worship of someone other than Himself and doesn’t correct it either…? You seem to avoid that fact.
No I did not notice that God said aleast 500 times what you are denying, ever read the OT ?Lol. Did you notice that God also stopped short of saying I Am God too? He said, tell them I AM has sent you.