Opposing Spiritual Forces – Final Battle

[APAK]

It is great to see convergence of complimentary threads and spiritual principles on this site: Character Development by brakelite, the Word by evotell, House ‘churches’ by Triumph1300, the mention and interest of ‘salt’ by VictoryInJesus, the blemishes of Catholicism by GodsGrace and several others; to me they are speaking of one common event in spiritual thought. Opposing spiritual forces are each preparing and waiting for their savior Lords to lead them into the FINAL battle for the souls and hearts of this planet.

True believers are to stand up and be counted. It’s time for true believers to step out, to continue preaching the truth in righteousness and salt, in harmony with God’s purpose having the salt within them to stay on target and focused, in the peace and strength that only the spirit of God provides.

There is a definite and on-going slackness within Protestant circles. They are losing their salt. There is a push by the RCC to merge itself to the old reformers of Protestantism, and other major religions. The frustration with the state of Israel is continuing and must reach a boiling point soon. Just one major economic turn -down is all it will taken to bring global hunger and despair.

There is a push to return to the days of the apostles with House ‘churches’ once again. True believers are beginning to walk away from these classic world creations, as I see it.

It’s like two distinct and opposing spiritual forces consolidating their powers and membership. They are soon readying for the FINAL battle.

The questions are, when will it really begin, or has it already begun, and how will it settle out at the end?

This must be NO coincidence as it is happening in our time. It must be prophetic.

If we are thinking and speaking on these things, then there are many other believers doing the same thing.

It’s ironic that true believers are conscious of this pressing subject although the fakers, the worldly and non-believers are in a sleep-walk.


What say you?

APAK

 

[bbyrd009]

my opinion here is that we imagine our conditions to be different, but we can perceive that ppl in Jerusalem had the same pov in Jesus' day. I dislike "final battle" for the same reason we cannot quote "fight the devil," and imo also bc this is the perspective pushed by the world, the MSM, etc

 

[DPMartin]

they are supposed to be in a sleep walk, the Lord promised this sort of thing, and its throughition will take place.

its frustrating but expected, Jerimiah and some of his counterparts experienced the same rejections and were most definitely disenfranchised from their worlds of their day.

this whole thing goes to the next step of only 144,000 believers in the world and then down to two. so the day of the Gentiles is closing. simple. the gentiles are taking what has dominated religion in the western culture for the past what, 1700 years and are now converting it to their original beliefs, they had before Christianity was spread. as a dog returns to its vomit

of course there's no documented witnessing of it but back in the hay day of the RCC they were the religion state religion of the empire. hence it was their duty to convert, and rid the empire of any other religion. but you can bet seeing they really couldn't covert the people they converted their religions. and as long as the people didn't speak openly against the church and Catholicism they were safe from persecutions for heresy. now its going the other way around. everyone wants to covert Christianity (redefine it) to their own beliefs and wisdoms. and it will run ramped and its gaining momentum you can see it here with the attitude of "I know what I believe" . thing is so do Buddhists and Muslims and atheists so on and so forth. the "I know what I believers" believe in love, what they think love ought to be, and that is what Christianity is to them. its an excellent position for the deceiver because everyone loves something. and there is the justification that you're ok, and inherently good, because you love and have the capacity for love. but serial killers love too, they love to kill. they use John's infamies statement "God is love" hence their love is their god in their own image. knowing their own love knowing what they believe.



you must understand God uses to accomplish the fulfillment of His word. why would the Lord God of Israel let Hitler have his way? it was simply to convince the Jews, that He has been calling for the previous 40 years or so via the world Zion organization, to return home, and that they are not better off in Europe or Russian territory that the Jews of that time thought they were. yes the Almighty would allow the world to slaughter each other in large quantities to make His people do something He wants done. they can not escape Him.

and this is not the God these others worship that believe there love is what their god is. and that same philosophy is again growing leaps and bounds. its a feel good religion they call Christianity.

 

[APAK]

it's a feel good religion they call Christianity..INDEED...!!

 

[DPMartin]

it's a feel good religion they call Christianity..INDEED...!!

yes, basically spiritual couch potatoes selecting what they want to hear.

 

[DPMartin]

you see it online all the time, what is God to you? what is Christianity to you? bla bla bla promoting the redefinition of the same. promoting the concept of what it is to you is OK. when the truth is, what are you to God? should be asked, and even though your hopes may be in what the bible says the bible also says.


Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

they are supposed to be in a sleep walk, the Lord promised this sort of thing,

God has allowed their sleep walk, right? Does man have any control over "a sleep walk"?

you must understand God uses to accomplish the fulfillment of His word. why would the Lord God of Israel let Hitler have his way? it was simply to convince the Jews, that He has been calling for the previous 40 years or so via the world Zion organization, to return home, and that they are not better off in Europe or Russian territory that the Jews of that time thought they were.

Is not what you describe above Love? To do whatever it takes. We quote the verse: all things work together for the good of those that love Him and are called according to His purpose and plan.

What about those that are not called? The instruments used to persuade His people to return? Do they, these instruments used, not also do His will?

yes the Almighty would allow the world to slaughter each other in large quantities to make His people do something He wants done.

You said "God would allow the slaughter in large quantities to make His people do something He wants done."

The Son of God was slaughtered.


Luke 14:28
[28] For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it ?

 

[Helen]

It is great to see convergence of complimentary threads and spiritual principles on this site: Character Development by brakelite, the Word by evotell, House ‘churches’ by Triumph1300, the mention and interest of ‘salt’ by VictoryInJesus, the blemishes of Catholicism by GodsGrace and several others; to me they are speaking of one common event in spiritual thought. Opposing spiritual forces are each preparing and waiting for their savior Lords to lead them into the FINAL battle for the souls and hearts of this planet.

True believers are to stand up and be counted. It’s time for true believers to step out, to continue preaching the truth in righteousness and salt, in harmony with God’s purpose having the salt within them to stay on target and focused, in the peace and strength that only the spirit of God provides.

There is a definite and on-going slackness within Protestant circles. They are losing their salt. There is a push by the RCC to merge itself to the old reformers of Protestantism, and other major religions. The frustration with the state of Israel is continuing and must reach a boiling point soon. Just one major economic turn -down is all it will taken to bring global hunger and despair.

There is a push to return to the days of the apostles with House ‘churches’ once again. True believers are beginning to walk away from these classic world creations, as I see it.

It’s like two distinct and opposing spiritual forces consolidating their powers and membership. They are soon readying for the FINAL battle.

The questions are, when will it really begin, or has it already begun, and how will it settle out at the end?

This must be NO coincidence as it is happening in our time. It must be prophetic.

If we are thinking and speaking on these things, then there are many other believers doing the same thing.

It’s ironic that true believers are conscious of this pressing subject although the fakers, the worldly and non-believers are in a sleep-walk.


What say you?

APAK

Very good and timely thread.
Unlike some...I have no problem with the phrase " Final battle" for indeed we are headed there. Woe unto those Believers who's belief did not go as far as to learn and practice spiritual warfare...during the build up time.
Because..."ready or not, here it comes.."
Some of us a getting ready, and have been doing so for years...both with seeing the anti-christ man on earth coming out of the shadows, and also into the heavens...I have heard much activity going on in the heavens for a while... It will be a two fold thing, earthly and heavens at the same time..the second heaven that is...the place where the Enemy dwells on earth and also in the heavens.
Praise be to God...His true Church is close to ready...

"And let it be, when thou hearest the sound of a going in the tops of the mulberry trees, that then thou shalt bestir thyself: for then shall the LORD go out before thee, to smite the host of the Philistines." 2 Sam

 

[DPMartin]

God has allowed their sleep walk, right? Does man have any control over "a sleep walk"?

not sure what your point is, but if the Lord God Creator and Judge wants something done in the world, its done. Nebuchadnezzar though himself to be a conqueror but the Lord told Israel it was coming and eventually Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel's God and now Israel calls Nebuchadnezzar the hammer. the Lord told Israel Cyrus was next by name via Daniel. the Lord told Daniel of the two great empires that Israel would have to deal with after that Greece and Rome. so no, men despite their wisdoms are not in control. read Revelations who is there to stop what God will do next in the world? He uses what's there, He didn't make it to not use it.

the world executes God's Judgement in the earth as He sees fit, no matter if they be for or against the Kingdom of Heaven. the Jews weren't treated with loving kindness by the Germans, what are you talking about? the Chaldeans trashed and slandered Israel and destroyed there temple marched them to enslavement, for what the Lord told them 70 years.


search "Lord of hosts" you will see what the Israelis already understood about their God back in the day. a host is understood as an army. the Lord our God owns both sides of the equation. or maybe better said the chess board and all the pieces on both sides. the out come is a result of His will. that's why many times Israeli and Judah Kings would consult prophets to see if the battle would be theirs or not.

after Christ they have been without home land for longer than Abraham's calling to the land to the day of Christ coming into the world. which is aprox 1738 +- years and according to Georgian calendar Israel what trashed in year 70 +- taken from 1948 is 1878 +-.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

not sure what your point is, but if the Lord God Creator and Judge wants something done in the world, its done.

Agree with: if God wants something done, it is done and I don't disagree with what you said above. But at the same time; just because "God is love" may be attached to "warm and fuzzy" that you may not agree with, doesn't change the truth that "God is love". Just because I may not understand God, whose ways are much higher than my own, and why He does things a certain way: it still doesn't change the truth that "God is love". We are talking about a God, who when He counted the cost: He was numbered with the transgressors.

Mark 15:27-28
[27] And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left. [28] And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.