You of course are sincere, and I appreciate your answering honestly, while many won't answer at all:
And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.
However, the original conclusion of your teaching is true.
You see how you say it is possible, but do not say it is necessary, and so it is not a commandment to be obeyed, but only theoretical ideal.
This boasting is called by Scripture, a willful humility.. Humbling ourselves before God is by repenting, not by 'humbly' declaring how far short we are now falling.
The publican left the temple justified, not by declaring how lousy he was, since the Lord already knows that, but because he repented of being so lousy.
And so, as they say, it is a distinction without a difference.
Them thinking of tomorrow and all times, never repent now and today.
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
The addict does not stop now, while he thinks of later and of 'all times'.
Ever gradually becoming more pure of heart, but never being pure in heart now, is the ever 'progressive' sanctification of man's own will and power, that never is simply sanctified now.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Being holy as He is holy is being wholly sanctified in spirit and body now.
I wish I were pure is denying Jesus' power and blood right now.
This is the message to the double-hearted in the garden, to do both good and evil and still live forever.
At the end of Romans 7 Paul cried out for deliverance to declare Romans 8.
If it is only possible, but never acknowledged, then it remains only a possibility that is certain not to come now.
And to say having purity of spirit and body is only for later at the resurrection, is the false hope of them who do not do so now, because they do not want nor love it now.
I love God in all things now, having a purified soul, clean heart, right spirit, and a mind cleared from all unrighteous thoughts for sin, I am not sinning in spirit nor in body with the devil against God, Now. Later will take care for itself later, if later comes at all.
Once again, the doctrine of 'perfectly' is false, in that it includes the imperfection of being in mortal flesh. Being mortal is not sinful, and seeing a sinful thought flying overhead is not sinning, but is simply to be chased away and cast out and rejected, and continue in purity and peace with the Lord.
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
That is the good fight of faith.
Then become it now, and know what it is to not need boast yourself unworthy now.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
If we say the Scripture is possible, but do not the word now, then it is only high ideal to give lip service to, and the Scripture is not commandment of God to obey with power of Christ, but only theoretically possibility never done on earth.
And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.
However, the original conclusion of your teaching is true.
No, I don't. I know for a fact it is possible. God can accomplish any work in us He wants to.
I've not met anyone whom I've gotten the impression that they do
You see how you say it is possible, but do not say it is necessary, and so it is not a commandment to be obeyed, but only theoretical ideal.
I certainly don't think that of myself!
This boasting is called by Scripture, a willful humility.. Humbling ourselves before God is by repenting, not by 'humbly' declaring how far short we are now falling.
The publican left the temple justified, not by declaring how lousy he was, since the Lord already knows that, but because he repented of being so lousy.
But I never declare it's impossible.
And so, as they say, it is a distinction without a difference.
I've not met anyone whom I've gotten the impression that they do, "at all times"
Them thinking of tomorrow and all times, never repent now and today.
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
The addict does not stop now, while he thinks of later and of 'all times'.
Generally that doesn't seem to come all at once, from what I've found. But that doesn't mean it can't, and I think sometimes it even does.
Ever gradually becoming more pure of heart, but never being pure in heart now, is the ever 'progressive' sanctification of man's own will and power, that never is simply sanctified now.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Being holy as He is holy is being wholly sanctified in spirit and body now.
I wish I were pure is denying Jesus' power and blood right now.
I think I'm like any other Christian, on a pathway to renewal, where sometimes we are walking in the Spirit, and sometimes not, instead walking according to flesh. And my hope is indeed for each of us that we increase in the Spirit more and more. Certainly that is God's working in us, that this will be so.
This is the message to the double-hearted in the garden, to do both good and evil and still live forever.
At the end of Romans 7 Paul cried out for deliverance to declare Romans 8.
The "certainty" is in your words, not mine. Although if anything, the Scriptures allow that we may yet commit sins, and if we do, we have an Intercessor.!
If it is only possible, but never acknowledged, then it remains only a possibility that is certain not to come now.
And to say having purity of spirit and body is only for later at the resurrection, is the false hope of them who do not do so now, because they do not want nor love it now.
Are you the one who will say, "I love God perfectly at all times"?
I love God in all things now, having a purified soul, clean heart, right spirit, and a mind cleared from all unrighteous thoughts for sin, I am not sinning in spirit nor in body with the devil against God, Now. Later will take care for itself later, if later comes at all.
Once again, the doctrine of 'perfectly' is false, in that it includes the imperfection of being in mortal flesh. Being mortal is not sinful, and seeing a sinful thought flying overhead is not sinning, but is simply to be chased away and cast out and rejected, and continue in purity and peace with the Lord.
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
That is the good fight of faith.
It wouldn't be true, I'm not yet that renewed.
Then become it now, and know what it is to not need boast yourself unworthy now.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
If we say the Scripture is possible, but do not the word now, then it is only high ideal to give lip service to, and the Scripture is not commandment of God to obey with power of Christ, but only theoretically possibility never done on earth.