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You need to learn what Eisegesis is.

No, you use it to force a return to heaven the text does not speak of.

No, Revelation 19 does not say anything about Jesus receiving believers unto Himself.

No. Rev 20 does not say anything about Jesus receiving believers unto Himself.
 

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No, you use it to force a return to heaven the text does not speak of.
No, you use Eisegesis to force "second coming" as being Jesus coming again expressly to receive believers unto Himself.

Also, you use Eisgesis to bring the places which Jesus has gone to prepare in His Father's house for believers - to earth. Which is not in the text. You are removing the places from His Fathers house.

No. Rev 20 does not say anything about Jesus receiving believers unto Himself.
I never said it did.

John 14:2-3 is talking about Jesus coming again for the resurrection/rapture. To take believes to the third heaven where His Father's house is.
 

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No, you use Eisegesis to force "second coming" as being Jesus coming again expressly to receive believers unto Himself.

"coming again" is the second coming. You know that.
 

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"coming again" is the second coming. You know that.
No, it is not.

The second coming of Jesus is His presence back on planet earth.

Differently, Jesus's coming again in John 14:2-3 is for the resurrection/rapture event.
 

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No, it is not.

The second coming of Jesus is His presence back on planet earth.

Differently, Jesus's coming again in John 14:2-3 is for the resurrection/rapture event.

There is one second coming not 3. He will return for the rapture and stay here for the Mill and eternity.
 

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There is one second coming not 3. He will return for the rapture and stay here for the Mill and eternity.
I never said three second comings. There will be one second coming.

The second coming of Jesus is His presence back on planet earth in Revelation 19.

Differently, Jesus's coming again in John 14:2-3 is for the resurrection/rapture event.


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I never said three second comings. There will be one second coming.

The second coming of Jesus is His presence back on planet earth in Revelation 19.

Differently, Jesus's coming again in John 14:2-3 is for the resurrection/rapture event.


You believe Jesus comes here two more times which is 3 comings but that is unscriptural.
 

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You believe Jesus comes here two more times which is 3 comings but that is unscriptural.
No, that is not what I believe, nor said.

First coming - Jesus present here on earth, 2000 years ago.

Coming in the air, for the resurrection/rapture, before the great tribulation begins.

Second coming - at the end of the great tribulation, Jesus's return with the resurrected/raptured saints as His bride to be present here on earth.


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No, that is not what I believe, nor said.

First coming - Jesus present here on earth, 2000 years ago.

Coming in the air, for the resurrection/rapture, before the great tribulation begins.

Second coming - at the end of the great tribulation, Jesus's return with the resurrected/raptured saints as His bride to be present here on earth.

That's 3 comings and 3 comings is not biblical. The resurrection/rapture happen at the one and ONLY second coming and that happens after the trib not before it.
 

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That's 3 comings and 3 comings is not biblical.
No, in my post I said that Jesus comes to be present on earth for two comings. Once during his first coming to be present on earth 2000 years ago.

And his second coming to be present on earth after the great tribulation.

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So you believe in three comings of Jesus to be present on earth ? His first coming 2000 years ago.

And his second coming in Revelation 19. And his third coming (in your view) for the resurrection/rapture.
 
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No, in my post I said that Jesus comes to be present on earth for two comings. Once during his first coming to be present on earth 2000 years ago.

And his second coming to be present on earth after the great tribulation.

Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is still a coming so you do teach 3 comings total.

There's only one coming left where the resurrection and rapture and other events like Armageddon take place. There is also nothing in the bible about Jesus ever going back to heaven.
 

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Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is still a coming so you do teach 3 comings total.
No, I never said coming to be present on Earth three times.

You have been mis-stating and mis-representing over and over what I have wrote in my posts. Stop with the lying.

State what your beliefs are, without the repetitive lying about what I believe and wrote.


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No, I never said coming to be present on Earth three times.

So? We are discussing COMINGS of Christ and you have presented 3 comings of Christ when the bible only presents 2. You have split the second coming into two comings.
 

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So? We are discussing COMINGS of Christ and you have presented 3 comings of Christ when the bible only presents 2. You have split the second coming into two comings.
Stop with the lying about what I wrote and said.

Jesus's second coming to be present on earth is in Revelation 19.

For the rapture/resurrection, Jesus does not come to be present on earth.




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Stop with the lying about what I wrote and said.

Jesus's second coming to be present on earth is in Revelation 19.

For the rapture/resurrection, Jesus does not come to be present on earth.

Doesn't matter. Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is a COMING and there are only 2 not 3.
 

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Doesn't matter. Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is a COMING and there are only 2 not 3.
You are leaving out the words of "to be present" on earth is what I wrote.

Jesus's second coming to be present on earth is in Revelation 19. Being present on earth, means Jesus will stand on the mount of Olives splitting it in half, Zechariah 14:4.

Differently, coming for the resurrection/rapture, Jesus does not come to be present on earth.

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Do you believe that Jesus will resurrect the dead in Christ and rapture the living in Christ after He has returned to stand on the mount of Olives splitting it in half ?
 
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You are leaving out the words of "to be present" on earth is what I wrote.

Doesn't matter. Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is a COMING and there are only 2 not 3.
 

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Doesn't matter. Leaving heaven and coming to the Earth is a COMING and there are only 2 not 3.
Do you believe that Jesus will resurrect the dead in Christ and rapture the living in Christ after He has returned to stand on the mount of Olives splitting it in half ?