PAUL IS AN APOSTLE, BUT TO WHO?
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Paul preached the one saving gospel that Peter preached in Acts 2. The one universal gospel preached to Jew and Greek/gentile.
Romans 10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How is the Holy Spirit received according to what Peter taught in Acts 2:37-38, Acts 8:14-17 compared to Paul in Eph 1:13 ?
Where does Paul in Eph 1:13 teach LAY HANDS AND PRAY to receive the HS as in Acts 8:14-18 ?
Where does Paul teach ALL believers sold everything inc homes and land and ALL were together as in Acts 2 :44-45, Acts 4:32-37
The New Testament contains all sorts of examples for us. You should not wrongly divide scriptures into what you think are contradictory or conflicting elements. Sometimes we lay hands on people, sometimes we just preach the Word. Paul did not need to repeat things stated in Acts, like believers selling things and having all things in common.
In other words, the Gospel that Paul taught has differences to the Gospel that Peter taught
Hopefully this will help you :)
Credit to a previous poster on this forum for the link.
The Gospel of the Kingdom - doctrine.org
The gospel for our day is the gospel of the grace of God (Acts 20.24). The word “gospel” (εὐαγγέλιον) means “good news”. The ascended, glorified Lord revealed this gospel to the Apostle Paul. The clearest definition of it is from Paul’s…
Your doctrine is wrongly divided.
There is but one gospel, not two. Gospel to the Jews is the same as to the gentiles. All the apostles and prophets got the same revelation.
Ephesians 3
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ,
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.
There could be no unity if there were 2 different gospels. If an apostle’s audience contained both Jews and gentiles, they would have to separate the Jews from the gentiles and deliver 2 different messages to them, if there were really 2 different gospels.
Ephesians 4
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
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and what is the Gospel that Paul teaches ?
The one that Christ taught him in Gal 1:11-12
And what is that Gospel ?
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Galatians 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Do you reject the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel that Christ taught to Paul in Gal 1:11-12 ?
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
and here it is, are you listenning ?
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Listen now to how Paul preached the same gospel that Peter preached.
Whether you are a Jew or you are a gentile, you must believe the one gospel.
And that one gospel is that Jesus died and rose again.
It is so clear and simple!
Acts 2
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Whether you are a Jew or you are a gentile, you must believe the one gospel.
And that one gospel is that Jesus died and rose again.
It is so clear and simple!
Acts 2
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Have you done the following ?
If not, why not ? :)
Acts 2:
44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Acts 2:44,45 is not the gospel message, it is a description of what the early believers did. We can still do this today, nothing is stopping us.
So only the early Acts parts that suit you , no surprise :)
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Do you reject the Gospel taught to Paul by Christ ?
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Paul had his role to play Most certainly but to say "only Paul was given the role to teach how a believer today is saved/justified." is not what the bible says. I just want to remind you of one verse, I already know how you will react and reply I just want you to seriously, very seriously consider the following verse that is all;Hello fellow Paul is our Apostle today believer.
People fail (or refuse to) believe that only Paul was given the role to teach how a believer today is saved/justified.
Acts 9:15 starts the process.
Gal 1:11-12 is the Gospel that was uniquely given to him by Christ
1 Tim 1:16 Paul was the first one saved by that Gospel
Gal 2:2 Paul had to teach Peter etc about it
Gal 2:7-9 Paul taught it to the Gentiles/heathen
Here is a great audio teaching as to why, enjoy :)
Columbus Bible Church - All Messages
columbusbiblechurch.org
Act 15:7 And when there had been much questioning, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Brethren, ye know that a good while ago God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Acts 15:11 ... we shall be saved, even as they <<< see the change ?
B4 then the gentiles were saved differently, now Peter realizes everyone else is now saved the way the gentiles are :-
Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13.
Gal 2:7-9 Then, Paul teaches a different audience compared to Peter
Rom 11:13 Who Paul is Apostle to
Rom 15:16 Who Paul is Minister to
TODAY everyone everywhere is equal Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11, Gal 6:15
And how is EVERYONE today saved ?
Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
