PLEASE SHARE WITH ME information you have from before 1800CE of the Resurrection of Jesus as reason for Christian Sunday keeping ?

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Early Christian Writings
The Didache (Teaching of the Twelve Apostles) (c. 1st century)
One of the earliest non-canonical Christian documents, the Didache, mentions Sunday worship:

Didache 14:1: "But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure."
The "Lord's Day" in early Christian terminology referred to Sunday, the day Jesus rose from the dead.
Ignatius of Antioch (c. 35–108 CE)

The Teaching does not say 'the Lord's day' <referred to Sunday>, or that Sunday referred or refers to <the day Jesus rose from the dead>. That is you, <Johann> trying your luck. Said Spurgeon: "Blessed is the man in whose life chance plays no role." He did not say 'luck', but he surely meant it. Spurgeon was honest. Johann is dishonest.
 
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The Teaching does not say 'the Lord's day' <referred to Sunday>, or that Sunday referred or refers to <the day Jesus rose from the dead>. That is you, <Johann> trying your luck. Said Spurgeon: "Blessed is the man in whose life chance plays no role." He did not say 'luck', but he surely meant it. Spurgeon was honest. Johann is dishonest.
Very dishonest of you to take snippets of my post.

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Even John on the isle of Patmos had his vision of the Apocalypse on Sunday.

(Ancient archeology supports this)
Let me help you! Here is an exemplar of your <Ancient archeology support> from before 1800CE, of the Resurrection of Jesus as reason for Christian Sunday keeping, by William Gouge, 'The Sabbath's Sanctification': Question 48. 'When begins the Lord's Day?'
Ans. In the morning, Acts 20:7.
When Paul came to the Church at Troas, he had a mind to spend a Lord's
day with them, though he was in great haste to depart so soon as he
could. He came, therefore, to their assembly at the time that they came
together according to their custom; but he kept them till the end of the day
(for he would not travel on the Lord's day); and having dismissed the
assembly, he departed. Now it said that he continued his speech "till
midnight" (Acts 20:7), even "till break of day" (verse 11), and then
departed; which departure of his is said to be "on the morrow." By this
punctual expression of the time, it appears that the first day of the week,
the Lord's day, ended at midnight, and that then the morrow began. Now
to make a natural day, which consisteth of twenty four hours, it must begin
and end at the same time; for the end of one day is the beginning of
another. There is not a minute betwixt them. As, therefore, the Lord's day
ended at midnight, so it must begin at midnight, when we count the
morning to begin. Which is yet more evident by this phrase, Matt. 28:1, "In
the end of the Sabbath" (namely, of the week before which was the former
Sabbath) "as it began to dawn" (namely, on the next day, which was the
Lord's day). Or, as John 20:1, "when it was yet dark" there came divers to
anoint the body of Jesus, but they found him not in the grave. He was
risen before; so as Christ rose before the sun.

ETCETERA QUACKMIRE QUALDRON!!!!
 

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I will add that Pentecost was always on Sunday. It was also a Sunday sabbath day. Lev. 23:21
QUACKMIRE QUALDRON!!!! Have you ever. . . quacks the quack <Rockerduck>, this, <Lev. 23:21>--no word from or of the content or context--, proves <that Pentecost was always on Sunday> and <also a Sunday sabbath day.>
My gosh!
 
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Perfect illustration what the expression 'to beg the question' means! I owe you
SABBATH

This is from the Hebrew word (BDB 992, KB 1409-1412) meaning "rest" or "cessation." It is connected to the seventh day of creation (see John H. Walton, The Lost World of Genesis One) where God ceased His labor after finishing initial creation and rested (cf. Gen. 2:1-3). God did not rest because He was tired, but because

creation was complete and good (cf. Gen. 1:31)
to show that His new temple, earth, was complete and functioning
to give mankind a regular pattern for worship and rest
as a reminder to Israel of YHWH's deliverance from Egypt (cf. Deut. 5:15)
The usage as a day of worship starts with Gen. 2:2-3, where YHWH uses His rest as a pattern for animals (cf. Exod. 23:12) and mankind (humans need a regular schedule of work, rest, and worship).

The Sabbath begins like all the days of Genesis 1, at twilight; therefore, twilight on Friday to twilight on Saturday was the official time period. All the details of its observance are given in Exodus (especially chapters 16,20,31, and 35) and Leviticus (especially chapters 23-26).

The first specialized use of this day by Israel was in Exod. 16:25-26 in the gathering of manna. It then becomes part of "the Ten Words" (cf. Exod. 20:8-11; Deut. 5:12-15). This is one example where the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 are slightly different from the Ten Commandments in Deuteronomy 5. Deuteronomy is preparing Israel for the settled, agricultural life in Canaan.

The Pharisees had taken these regulations and, by their oral discussions, interpreted them (i.e., the Oral Traditions) to include many rules. Jesus often performed miracles, knowingly violating their picky rules so as to enter into a theological dialogue with them (i.e., Matthew 12). It was not the Sabbath that Jesus rejected or belittled, but their self-righteous legalism and lack of love (cf. Mark 2:27-28). Jesus rejected the Rabbinical Midrash related to the Sabbath and showed His equality with the Father by modifying the Sabbath's permanence. Jesus is Lord of Scripture (cf. Matt. 5:21-48) and the Sabbath (cf. Mark 2:27-28; see Millard Erickson, Christian Theology, 2nd ed., p. 702).

The early church worshiped on both the Sabbath and the first day of the week (i.e., Sunday, resurrection day, cf. John 20:1,19; Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2; Jesus appeared to His disciples three Sunday nights in a row). The Synagogue addressed the growing Christian movement by demanding members to reject Jesus as the Messiah (i.e., The Eighteen Benedictions). At this point (i.e., Jewish reform at Jamnia in A.D. 70) the Christians began to meet exclusively on Sunday.

For a good brief discussion about this issue, see F. F. Bruce, Answers to Questions, p. 242 (this book has helped me so much; I recommend it to you!)

SPECIAL TOPIC: FEASTS OF ISRAEL, II. A., B.


No need to reply.

J.
 
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The New Testament documents, written in the first century, record that Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week (Sunday).
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Again, I want to SEE where your mentioned <New Testament documents, written in the first century ... discuss the resurrection of Jesus as a reason for Christian Sunday keeping>. CHANCER!
 

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Ignatius of Antioch (c. 35–107 CE): Ignatius, an early Christian writer and bishop, refers to Sunday as "the Lord's day" in his letter to the Magnesians (Chapter 9).
SHOW HERE : Ignatius of Antioch in his letter to the Magnesians refers to Sunday! QUOTE him HERE referring to <"the Lord's day"> in full. viz., referring to <day> in the Greek!
 

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SHOW HERE : Ignatius of Antioch in his letter to the Magnesians refers to Sunday! QUOTE him HERE referring to <"the Lord's day"> in full. viz., referring to <day> in the Greek!
In Ignatius of Antioch's Epistle to the Magnesians, Chapter 9, he writes about the shift from the observance of the Sabbath to the "Lord's Day." The Greek phrase referring to Sunday as "the Lord's Day" can be found in the original text. Here is the relevant quote in full:

Greek Text:

"Μηκέτι σαββατίζοντες, ἀλλὰ κατὰ κυριακὴν ζῶντες, ἐν ᾗ καὶ ἡ ζωή ἡμῶν ἀνέτειλεν δι' αὐτοῦ καὶ τοῦ θανάτου αὐτοῦ (τὸ μυστηρίον τοῦ πάθους), εἰς τὸ ἵνα πιστεύσαντες εἰς τὸν θάνατον καὶ τὴν ἀνάστασιν τοῦ Χριστοῦ Ἰησοῦ ἐν τῷ πάσχειν ἡμᾶς ἀποτάσσωνται τῷ κόσμῳ, καὶ τὴν πεποίθησιν τοῦ διαβόλου ἀπολύσωσιν."

English Translation:

"Let us therefore no longer keep the Sabbath after the Jewish manner, and rejoice in days of idleness; but let every one of you keep the Sabbath after a spiritual manner, rejoicing in meditation on the law, not in relaxation of the body, admiring the works of God. And after the observance of the Sabbath, let every friend of Christ keep the Lord's day as a festival, the resurrection-day, the queen and chief of all the days (of the week). Looking forward to this, the prophet declared, 'To the end, for the eighth day,' on which our life both sprang up again, and the victory over death was obtained in Christ."

In the Greek text, "κατὰ κυριακὴν" refers to "the Lord's day" (κυριακὴν ἡμέραν), indicating Sunday, the day of Christ's resurrection.

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Early Church Fathers:

Justin Martyr (c. 100–165 CE): In his "First Apology" (Chapter 67), Justin Martyr describes how Christians gathered on Sunday for worship, reading of Scriptures, preaching, and celebration of the Eucharist. He explicitly connects Sunday observance with the resurrection: "But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead."
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Tertullian (c. 155–240 CE): Tertullian, in his "Apology" (Chapter 16), defends Christians against accusations of atheism and explains their observance of Sunday as a day of worship commemorating the resurrection of Christ.
From shameless fraud with Ignatius to shameful audacity with Tertullian, "Lordly"-'kyriakeh' IDOLATROUSLY PRESENTED / RENDERED WITH : 'SUNDAY'.
 

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The Council of Nicaea, while not establishing Sunday observance per se (since it was already practiced widely), affirmed the spiritual significance of Sunday as the Lord's day. Canon 19 of the council addressed some practical matters related to Sunday observance.
Yes, Sunday observance per se was already practiced widely by the time of the council of Nicaea--- BY THE PAGANS! But that Sunday observance per se was <affirmed> as, or was affirming, <the spiritual significance of Sunday as the Lord's day>, again, is again affirmation and confirmation, that Johann is spinning his Lie song for lack of its Scripture affirmation or confirmation---or luck as usual.
 
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Prove it wrong @GerhardEbersoehn -don't flip your lid.
'Sunday' is not there in pre-Contra Reformation literature, in manuscript or in print. It does not exist there and never then, existed. Therefore the onus to prove its existence is on the party that alleges that it did and or does exist. The ball if it is, is in your hands to play. Don't flip your lid, lad. THE EXISITING PROOF EXISTS, of the single 'Sunday' proof in history before the 17th century, O YES! It exists in the Vatican's catacombs library archives---PRINTED, and EDITED---IN LATIN. It also exists in one book printed and published and taken out during the nineteenth century at a university library if I remember correctly now of either Oxford or Cambridge (or could even be a university in the USA somewhere). You will find that information if you Google search a bit. What is interesting, is that that book, since it got into that library early in the 1800's, was taken out about 2 or at most 4 times. (I can't remember exactly the number of times it is signed out and in.) Ever since the last lending out in the late 1800's, it has NEVER BEEN LENDED OUT AGAIN. I still have image copies, you can search for them yourself, which I know you will not. So why should I waste my thrift to find it for you? You know where to go as far as I am concerned. I am not like you are, the Popes serf.
The taking for granted of the existence of the supposed ‘second manuscript copy’ of Justin Martyr’s ‘Apology To The Emperor’ which in Christian apologetics regularly is seen ‘quoted’ as proving “the day after Saturday which is Sunday on which the Lord rose from the dead”, Prima Facie is retroactively applied Ex Post Facto evidence. In other words, the practice of quoting and relying on these words in today’s paper and print books, means what is presumed is something no exhibitable evidence exists for in originals, and must be presumed in defiance of the absence of evidence whether confirming or to the contrary. The real original or a real copy of the original source in which the word Sunday presumably or supposedly would have existed, cannot be shown as it does not exist.
The truth or untruth of the assumption of the existence in early Christian writings of Sunday therefore is an assumption disprovable by Argumentum Ex Silentio – by argument/inference from silence/absence, by logic, and by predictability. In short—BY ABSENCE OF SCRIPTURE simply!
 
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'Sunday' is not there in pre-Contra Reformation literature, in manuscript or in print. It does not exist there and never then, existed. Therefore the onus to prove its existence is on the party that alleges that it did and or does exist. The ball is your hands, if it is, to play. Don't flip your lid, lad. THE EXISITING PROOF EXISTS, of the single 'Sunday' proof in history before the 17th century, O YES! It exists in the Vatican's catacombs library archives---PRINTED, and EDITED---IN LATIN. I also exists in one book printed and published and taken out during the nineteenth century at a university library if I remember correctly now of either Oxford or Cambridge (or could even be a university in the USA somewhere). You will find that information if you Google search a bit. What is interesting, is that that book, since it got into that library early in the 1800's, was taken out about 2 or at most 4 times. (I can't remember exactly the number of times it is signed out and in.) Ever since the last lending out in the late 1800's, it has NEVER BEEN LENDED OUT AGAIN. I still have image copies, you can search for them yourself, which I know you will not. So why should I waste my thrift to find it for you? You know where to go as far as I am concerned. I am not like you are, the Popes serf.
Oh I know lad.

Your claim that “Sunday” did not exist before the 17th century is inaccurate, based on historical references from early Christian writings. The burden of proof for this claim, which suggests the term only appears in secret Vatican archives or obscure books, requires strong, verifiable evidence.

The onus is indeed on you to provide documentary proof from reputable sources. Without such evidence, your claim remains speculative and contrary to what we know from existing early Christian literature and practices.

J.
 
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