Poll. Will we be judged when we die?

[Sel@h]

The judgment happens after the Millennium at the Great White Throne Judgment.

 

[shepherdsword]

The evidence you brought to bear on this is good information, but it only goes to prove my statement that...

The early KJV translators translated this as Judgment Seat of Christ. when it was first translated (1611), the only known use of BHMA in 1611 that didn't even fit the context was Tribunal (Judgment Seat), also Platform, Step.

You cited as the usage of BHMA:

• βῆμα, a step, pace; a platform (emphasis added)

That is what I am arguing!!

The judges of the Olympics would sit on a raised platform so they could see the competition and ultimately reward the winners. The raised platform was called the BHMA. FYI, the BHMA is still seen in Corinth today.

Also, your very first sentence above says, "This is why I do not accept it as referring sole(l)y to a rewards ceremony."

This is what I have argued also. One use of BHMA is the raised platform found in the middle of the city where various trials were held by city magistrates. You can see that both uses of BHMA have judges and raised platforms.

No, you said "Bema" was exclusively a "rewards ceremony" My post was to dispute that.

 

[rwb]

The evidence you brought to bear on this is good information, but it only goes to prove my statement that...

The early KJV translators translated this as Judgment Seat of Christ. when it was first translated (1611), the only known use of BHMA in 1611 that didn't even fit the context was Tribunal (Judgment Seat), also Platform, Step.

You cited as the usage of BHMA:

• βῆμα, a step, pace; a platform (emphasis added)

That is what I am arguing!!

The judges of the Olympics would sit on a raised platform so they could see the competition and ultimately reward the winners. The raised platform was called the BHMA. FYI, the BHMA is still seen in Corinth today.

Also, your very first sentence above says, "This is why I do not accept it as referring sole(l)y to a rewards ceremony."

This is what I have argued also. One use of BHMA is the raised platform found in the middle of the city where various trials were held by city magistrates. You can see that both uses of BHMA have judges and raised platforms.

You are conflating the two, where the Bible does not! The earthly judgment seat used for judging winners of a sporting event, is not to be compared to the judgment seat of Christ. The one can only judge outwardly, while the judgment seat of Christ judges inwardly; judging according to the heart.

 

[rwb]

The judgment happens after the Millennium at the Great White Throne Judgment.

What judgment happens after a/the thousand years at the GWTJ? Who shall be called before the GWT to be judged according to what is written in the books and the book of life? Does not Scripture tell you that only the DEAD shall be judged before the GWT? Does Scripture also not tell you that Paul is speaking to the body of Christ, called church, when he writes "we must all stand before the judgment seat of Christ"? IOW the DEAD (unbelievers) are judged at the GWT, and those who in life have been born again Christians (disciples of Christ) must all stand before the JSC.

Ro 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Ro 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Ro 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Ro 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Ro 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Judgment after death?

1) Yes, According To "The Revelation Of The Mystery", There will be A [ Bema ] Judgment Seat Of Christ,

for All Grace believers In The Body Of Christ, who,"By Grace Through faith" are "translated Into The ​

[ Heavenly ] Kingdom" (Colossians 1:13 AV), after resurrection And "Caught Up" ( God's Great GRACE ​

Departure! ) = End Of Mystery, and...:​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

...And When Prophecy Resumes:

2) Next, "Immediately after Israel's Great Tribulation, At Christ's Prophesied Second Coming,

with Another "trumpet" after the "seventh angel trumpet", Christ On His earthly Throne, ​

Sending His [ army of ] angels to "gather His elect" For The:​

"sheep and goats" [ faith + works ] Judgment in order to "Enter the earthly kingdom":​

(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27; Matthew 25:31-46 AV)​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

3) Finally, All unbelievers (dead) Will Be "delivered up" To The Great White Throne Judgment!:

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Three Books At Judgment!​

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Amen.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Does not Scripture tell you that only the DEAD shall be judged before the GWT?

Amen! Not sure how a dead Unbeliever can be a "co-labourer With God", eh?:

The Judgment Seat Of Christ:​

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall​

receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers​

together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.​

According to The Grace Of God Which Is Given Unto me, as a wise masterbuilder,​

I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take​

heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that​

is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.​

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Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,​

stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because​

it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

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If any man's work abide which he hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.​

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;​

yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

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Or, how Unbelievers are Saved, being "Cast Into The Lake Of Fire", What?