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WaterSong

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@Heart2Soul Indeed...worth remembering...
I'm new. I don't know their gender because it isn't listed on their profile page. I think a pink or blue frame around our profile picture, as example, or just the notation of our gender beneath that, would help us to not address someone with the wrong gender pronoun.
 

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That will go over big on the west coast, the Trump derangement syndrome pandemic is far from over. In the spirit of communism you should make them for everyone free of charge.
There you go.
The idea is repulsive and insults a brother in Christ. That wouldn't matter to California consumers though. They voted for Newsom after all. Talk about full of crap.
 
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I did say this subject is huge...I have literally many dozens of sources and these many are all dated before the 21st century.

The source you gave, I find very suspect because it is ANOTHER profit-making, editorial articled style, high-exposure- volume-driven so-called knowledge hub site called 'DifferenceBetween'. com with a staff that apparently are not experts in the least on this very important subject.

The staff consists of:

Olivia Dawson (Chief Editor – Australia) – Graduate in Electronic Engineering with HR, Training & Development background with over 15 years of field experience.

Dr.Roshan Ragel (Consultant – Information Technology / Contributing Editor ) – Senior Lecturer BSc Eng (Hons) PhD Comp. Sci (UNSW , Australia) Research Interest : Microarchitectural Aspects of Embedded Systems Design & Security

Andrew Daniel (Contributing Editor – UK) – Telecommunication and Network Expert, carrying 8 years of experience and a practising Engineer

Indika Kahanda (Contributing Editor) – Lecturer in Computer Engineering – BSc Eng. (Hons) MSECE (Purdue, USA)

Guru Kris (Contributing Editor – India) – MBBS, Senior Lecture in Medical Science

Aron Dilip (Contributing Editor – India) – Professor in Social Science

Would you really trust this site to give you facts on the unbiased definitions of: who is a Jew, who is not a Jew, what is Zionism and what is Judaism?

And who is 'Koshal' the author of this source you gave? He/she wrote it in 2011...

On the other hand I have prime sources of experts on these subjects..real historians, scholars, historical and biblical sources..

just saying....
You posit you are a source for the information. What's your background? Why should I or we readers, find you credible if you decide to post what is the difference between Zionism and Judaism?

See what I mean?
 

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LOL, -- after FOX News stabbed us all in the back, both my wife and I DELIBERATELY ignore that channel, and apparently their viewership has dropped by some 50%, so that now even MSN has better ratings.

But we DO watch Mark Levin's "Life, Liberty & Levin"; and also FOX Business with Maria, MacDonald, and Dobbs.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

PS I have such animosity toward FOX News that I won't even watch their Youtube channel "News NOW from FOX".

Lke 16:10 “He who is faithful in a very little is faithful also in much; and he who is dishonest in a very little is dishonest also in much.
 
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You posit you are a source for the information. What's your background? Why should I or we readers, find you credible if you decide to post what is the difference between Zionism and Judaism?

See what I mean?
I did say this topic is huge already, right....of Zionism and Judaism?

First though, I never did bring any information, or have not yet brought any sources forward on this subject to call myself the source of it.

You know you can search the internet for some sources of truth on these subjects that is much more credible that the one you 'raised.' Take a look at, for example, Zionism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts for the Zionism part....

Now this source for Zionism has much truth however it is sprinkled with some poison or at least misleading information. You also have to see one needs to get more data or sources, or a much larger pool of sources to build your truth framework on any subject out of your personal reach and understanding and of complexity.

Using this Britannica source and many others, I can say that Zionism is a late 19th century movement by a people calling themselves Zionist Jews. I can buy into this as a holding point written in pencil and not ink at this time, because, at least, the part where is says Jew or Jews need to also be sources and researched to know who or what are these Jews, as I said before.

What Jews is this source talking about....and the search for truth thus continues until you are satisfied with that area and then you move to the next.....there is NOT ONE source that has all the truth on such a subject as Zionism or Judaism on one page or in one 3 page article....and where they can tell the truth 100%...I've seen very few sources that have satisfied my mind 100%, on the first pass....

You need to know what level of understanding you want, to satisfy your mind. My level could be must deeper on this subject of Zionism and Judaism that yours, or visa versa. What are you EXPECTING to see or read to satisfy your mind on this subject? If you have an expectation already set in stone in your mind, of what the answer should be, then you might have already 'killed off' any possibility of reaching the truth of these two topics.

One has to be not just open-minded, also patient, and not judgmental before one has upturned many stones first.

Unfortunately, today we live in a world that thrives and lives off ready-quickly-made answers to any subject, whether trivial or complex. This is just data although not necessarily reliable or the truth. Researchers and analysts are becoming a rare breed these days. Most folks want to be fed data rather that research for themselves the truth. Of course one has to know that data is not necessarily the truth...or maybe it does not matter to many these days.

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I wonder, and would be all for it, if it has occurred to the Republican party, the national office, to enlist every registered Republican in a class action lawsuit over this stolen election matter?

Just to inform those here who may not know. Difference Between Zionism and Judaism | Difference Between

Still all in all what a fascinating time to be alive.
Biblical Zion is noting like the so called Zionist are about at all. they have only stole the Name.

Judaism is what is set down in the OT and nothing other, not to mention them days are gone 2000 years ago.

Jews ? they are not a race, they were only one Tribe among many Semitic peoples.

As to the Bible a true Israelite was only the people who served God in fact.

The Tribe of Israel does not consist of all being a true Israelites in fact. just as we see Bible points to Jacob getting that from a Angel because he was a man of God = an Israel one who serves God, but no one has ever received such a like that because they are only true ones in the Tribe Bible points out one person who Jesus Christ says in fact, who this bloke is ! a True Israelite in fact ! yes indeed he was the epitome that was Nathaniel.
Many in the Tribe of Israel were kicked out in OT times remember, if you have ever read the OT, you would know the fact was so.
Of the 12 of the Tribes boys 10 did not cut it that well, only 2 were much loved by Jacob Israel and they were the real boys of his true Marriage that he wanted, he never truly wanted the others because they were not his beloved Sons, they hated one Son remember and were going to kill him but then they put him in a pit but then sold him for how much Silver ? does that click ?

So then when them brothers come to him when he is now in such powerful position, we have that he calls out to see his baby full brother who he calls out for them to see him and what did they say about that to him ? remember ! they were spinning out about that.

What does Jesus Christ say ? you must truly be born again ! that's the Key and you must abide in the Vine, that's Him as he is the wellspring that you must drink from.

All this nonsense about race just does not cut it in fact at all, YOU MUST TRULY BE BORN AGAIN to enter into the Kingdom of God ! apart from that one is lost regardless and not worthy of God.
 
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It's great the climate is changing. We CAN'T STOP IT. Or really slow it down enough to make any difference. It's not going to be catastrophic.

We are not going to wipe everything out. The climate has ALWAYS CHANGED. It always will. It's part of the earth's natural cycle. What we need to do is learn to live with it and adapt with it. Just as we always have done. We are intelligent and part of nature and mankind has always adapted and we always will. We will be able to do what we need to do in order to adapt to the natural phenomenon.

The entire earth has been much warmer in the past. And much colder. Sometime in the future it will get much colder again.

And there is no way we will do nothing. We will build, alter, create and do what's necessary to protect what we have.

What we don't need to do is destroy our lives, or jobs, our way or life as some sort of God complex as if by doing so we can alter the inevitable.

I've heard some nonsense about getting rid of gas and diesel by 2030. This will be at an ENORMOUS cost to the public in general. Taxes will increase, all people will have to purchase new vehicles. All auto manufacturers.will.have to refit their factories. All those old gas cars will have to begotten rid of, everyone will have to buy new cars even though their old ones have been paid off. Car loans will increase. It's patently ridiculous. We will have to build thousands and thousands of charging stations and the cost if that will be enormous. More electrical lines will have to be built and run. More electricity will have to be produced and there are a lot of areas where there are rolling brown outs now because they can't produce enough power. More power grids will.habe to be built and entire infrastuctures will have to be built it rebuilt. All of that is going to cost more and more and more. Where is all that money going to come from? The taxpayer.

It's a foolish and stupid idea for something we can't control.
I seen a show about the UK Stonehenge where they worked out that it was a weather time clock, now I recorded this some years ago but lightning struck our house and destroyed my recorder.
What I remember was that worked out where all the timber post once were and all, and if I remember correctly their are 12 points of cycles of 7 years in each of the 12 and this charts the Pole shift that causes the weather change and another with in all that I think, so it may change the currents somewhat and all, then we have the Sun firing up hotter and not so much over history.

Then we have something going on down at the South pole that we are not allowed to know anything about, thanks to our MSM gods, who knows what they are doing down there. what's the big deal about such a huge secret ? are they exploding nuclear bombs trying to warm up ocean currents to drive more storms, playing the Games with us.

I do not trust the MSM at all, they are letting the most wealthy people in the world have meetings about our fate as well that we have no right to know about :rolleyes:. No to hell with such a MSM they are much like the Nazis in my books. I want them to come clean, is that too much to ask !

If the MSM did their real job openly all would be fine, but they are clearly outright fully out of control nowadays.
 

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I hate to say it but unfortunately I'm starting to think that he's right. :(

You are supposed to "think" that.
If you do not know the Truth, you will "believe" what you are "repeatedly" told.

•The Truth is: improprieties are charged and those charging, are signing sworn affidavits, risking 5 years in prison, if they are lying.
•The Truth is: improprieties are being investigated.
•The Truth is: the Right is trying to Discover the Truth.
•The Truth is: the Left is trying to Discourage discovery of the Truth.
•The fact is:
People cast a vote for the General Election.
States must report to the States Governors.
Governors certify the people's votes.
Governors send their certification to the Senate.
The College Electors Vote.
The College Electors votes are counted.
The VP announces The President-Elect. (Mid- Dec)
The President-Elect is sworn in in late January.

Has that happened?
Is the Media waiting for the Process to have actually occurred?
Or is the Media repeating 24-7 Opinion?

You have to decide if your heart tells you...
BE patient for Discovery of Truth of the Whole Matter....or BE convinced by Opinions of Media people you do not know.

Glory to God,
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You would be changing your tune real quick if mail trucks full of Trump ballots turned up today, 3 weeks later. That is the level of fraud we are seeing here.
If you could prove this ok.
No one has proved this.
Two vans appears. Votes dropped in the count. The inference was the vans brought the votes but nothing actually seen. That is not evidence and was rejected from court.

The Trump camp appear to only have things like this. It is absurd to say this is significant, at all. Think with a critical mind. The van could be carrying empty bins, food, equipment, or anything. The count will always get big number drops as large city counts get added.

I am shocked so many want to see proof by inference rather than proof by evidence. Without evidence, no fraud.

The feeling of loss to Trump supporters is the same, so a fraud explanation raises hope, but a false hope.
 
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Utter garbage.
Not your business What others have.

Gal 6:
[4] But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
[5] For every man shall bear his own burden.
Unfortunately history does not lie.
Societies are sensitive to value of individuals and does not like excessive in balance.

It is what drives socialism. Run away investment wealth corrodes the system. We are the product of such feelings. :)
 

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Biblical Zion is noting like the so called Zionist are about at all. they have only stole the Name.

Judaism is what is set down in the OT and nothing other, not to mention them days are gone 2000 years ago.

Jews ? they are not a race, they were only one Tribe among many Semitic peoples.

As to the Bible a true Israelite was only the people who served God in fact.

Disagree with you in part.

Tribes is the Biblical Term, of a Division of People God Established.

The Specific Tribes as a Whole is called ISRAEL.

Yes, Judah, was One of Trib of the Whole, ISRAEL.

The Whole of ISRAEL, are "Gods People".

The Whole of ISRAEL, historically, (little land divisions...of 11 of the Tribes) with ONE Tribe, the Levites Appointed Traveling Ministers, an Ancient WAY of Communication network amount the Tribes...and probably very slow)
....imagine the impatience of dial-up internet...and then imagine waiting 6 months or longer for a minister to show up.

The Levites ... were charged with distributing... The WORD of God throughout the Tribes.

It like now...if you are exposed to the WORD of God only a couple times a year...other things begin to consume your thoughts.

Other things did influence the Northern Tribes...Gentile's WAYS...as expected, since the people were mixed together Having daily contact.

Benjamites and Judeans were clinging together...and you know the history...
The northern Tribes were assimilating with Gentiles ways, and the Levites, supposed, father to sons Ministers, were moving away from that succession that God had established.
In essence what God gave them...the Order became a sham.

The Judeans were the most prominate in Record keeping, keeping the WORD of God in a forefront....and majority of the other tribes, records lost, burned.

Point being...families, direct mother to child... Bloodline...determined "Tribal" connection...
ISRAEL...and the constant TRIBE being Judea, called Judeans, ie Jews.

Records lost...tribal mixing with Gentiles...
No homeland (wars overtaking, bondage)...
They, having a mother, of Any tribal descent, simply called themselves Jews...a Race separated from Gentiles by Bloodline, via the Mother.

In the 1940's... UK succeeded Land they controlled, to the Jews...and thus, being called ISRAEL, A Nation (state/Country).

Still calling themselves Jews, and Israelites...
No one KNOWS for sure their historical TRIBE, yet, from mother bloodline, Word of mouth, they carry their Heritage Distinction From Gentile's.

The religious Aspect is completely separate from the bloodline.
In the Beginning...it was Agreement of the People to Follow and Obey the Word of God...
Which came through a few men To the People...over a course of History...
Generationally...some accepted, some didn't.

Human nature. You may not know WHO or what your gggggh+- grandfather, believed, why, if it continued generationally to you or not.

They are still Gods People...and God Himself has Revealed in Gods Manner and Gods Timeframe...what Is Sufficient and Satisfactory to God. They have experienced Blessings and Punishments...and while it appears rather a small number of Adherents (approx 14+ Million Jews out of 7+ Billion World Population)...God is not Finished with them, nor abandoned them).

It's primarily the Gentiles who became intrigued by the appearance of a Jewish man, the walking, talking, Flesh Word of God....and Then the Jewish God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob (ISRAEL). And of course ...that Applies to Only Some Gentile's.
It's the same concept...they are Christ's People, are blessed, punished, and carry on in life following or rejecting.
They don't become Tribes, Jews, Israelites, Jewish Religion Adherents. (Typically).

The main connection...(as God established)...
Between Jews (all Tribes) and Gentiles...is the •Same EARTHLY "Father". Abraham.
•Every (Faith-FULL) Jew TO God...
•Every (Faith-FULl) Gentile TO Jesus/Word, Christ/Messiah, God/Heavenly Creator...
ARE BY Gods PROMISE, sons OF:
Faith-FULL "Abraham"...(not Abram).

All other Tribsmen, Jews, Gentile's ...
Not in Faith-FULLNESS...per Gods Established, WAY...have during their natural lifetime, to Commit or Reject.

So much is glossed over, important things, replaced with men's philosophies and opinions, that make men feel good about themselves...it's a shame.

People Focus on Divide...Jews and Gentiles...
Wagging their tongue...pointing a finger...
Barely a mention of A Faithful Jews, and A Faith Gentile's....connection is Gods established Promise, of ONE Same Earthly father...
Faithful Abraham.

Yes...if "any" man has been born AFTER Jesus revealing ON Earth and Departure from Earth...yes, as the WORD of revealed...a man MUST be Born Again (in the spirit), to Enter into His Kingdom.

God is NOT slight in requirement of fulfilling what He says...however Everything...is orchestrated ...
according TO Gods ORDER, WAY, Timeframe.

Any man Jew or Gentile, having avowed their True HEARTFUL Faith in Christ The Lord God..
Have their Security assuredness.
(They Scripturally are called, Bodily dead/crucified, soul Saved, spirit Quickened...in A word..."Converted" IN Christ)
Gentiles...call that ^ numerous things...
Jews...call that ^ Messanic Jews.

Fact is...Gods ORDER, WAY and Timeframe...
Has much more to be revealed.

God Bless,
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The Kraken

This will be the testimony of those who were told to back date reception of ballots.
Imagine the case where no ballots needed to be back dated or were back dated.

It appears this was the case, so no fraud, though the instruction should not have been made, it had no effect.
This kind of testimony though personally may be prosecutable by the police, it has no bearing on the validity of the the numbers or the election result.

If you can find evidence that affects the numbers, that shows a fraudulent ballot from an imposter etc. one has something.
You then need thousands of other examples. Without this there is no case to take through court.

This is like shooting ducks in a barrel. It is making a fool literally of the right wing, of the media sources and of what is truth and the role of the presidency.

What is missed is whatever the claims or intent of the next administration it still has to pass congress and the senate, which will be hard if not impossible. And it is the debate that matters, to educate the population and work through the issues.

I have to say without Trump and you guys being nuts about him, I would not be here learning about the US election system and courts. So thankyou for the education, and the ride. The US is a volatile discussion house, but it has a rigid legal structure that can withstand the storms, and come out with what works. Sounds like the wild west all over again. And ironically you get to hear who actually speaks and predicts the future correctly, and who is just hot air. This is the difference between fake news and real reporting on which we all rely.
 

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Mafia China

I saw a video yesterday about a chinese billionaire who suggests China is just a front for the leadership team who are raiding the whole chinese economy and lining their own pockets. They have hyped their currency internally and are on the verge of collapse if they cannot continue massive economic growth. Such an operation is not friendly to any outside groups, and cannot be relied upon.

The problem with expansionist movements, once they get to a certain size the rest of the world is the target. And this target is get what you can by any means. I think this will be the biggest foreign policy issue that will affect our futures quite literally.

Bribery and corruption are their tools, no holds stopped. So I think your focus is wrong on the democrats, the monster arising is heading for war and world domination. These guys know only how to appear and lie, constantly. Unfortunately any internal investment might be lost with these guys in charge, so I wonder how the world should react to tame this beast before the ability to tame it has gone. If all their institutions are fronts for money laundering and stealing wealth, one should take action.

God bless you
 

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If you could prove this ok.
No one has proved this.

Not one person has to prove anything to you regarding an American General Election.

Your opinions and vile names and accusations against Our Sitting President are a reminder of WHY people Fled England, Fought and Died to be Severed From England, Don't search out products to buy From England, Don't spend money To Support Tourism in your England, and give Tribute to Our American Revolutionary War Patriots.
 
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Unfortunately history does not lie.

Unfortunately, people do lie, and write text books of history of lies.

Societies are sensitive to value of individuals and does not like excessive in balance.

Not particularly a newsflash.

There are people who desire what others have, and work to have what others have.
American Political Right^

And there are people who desire what others have are are willing to:
1) steal what others have
^ criminal Thieves^
2) accept what others have for an exchange of Favor
American Policital Left ^

It is what drives socialism. Run away investment wealth corrodes the system. We are the product of such feelings. :)

Socialism is driven by Visions of their Wants met.... by someone's else's Effort.

Wealth IS a Factor in Socalism...always highlighted...by one who is willing to get Access to Another's Wealth "by any means."

You listed a variety of "issues/problems" you decided ARE "world problems"...
i.e. ...plastics dumping, rainforests, wealth distribution, climate changes...
Stating "something must be done"...

And? You change Your diet to vegan...and Talk.

What exactaly does that accomplish...TO solving Your Identified World problems?

ZIP! You ARE riding the train of many American Leftists... wanting someone else, with the others money ... to solve your identified problems.

That is a huge Difference Between you and me.

I solve my problems, by my Efforts, my Risks, my Expense, my failure, my Success, my Control.
I am NOT "OF" this world.

Espousing
Lord, Lord Save ME
"And"
Moneymen, Moneymen Save this EARTH
Is Very Revealing.
Is Scripturally Contradictory.
 
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Not one person has to prove anything to you regarding an American General Election.

Your opinions and vile names and accusations against Our Sitting President are a reminder of WHY people Fled England, Fought and Died to be Severed From England, Don't search out products to buy From England, Don't spend money To Support Tourism in your England, and give Tribute to Our American Revolutionary War Patriots.

You are 100% correct, I am not the judge and jury here as to what is proof.
The great thing about proof is it proves a point to every observer, in such a way it cannot be challenged.
It is what founds science and why discoveries are printed in science journals to be tested and confirmed.

But with this in mind, dismissing my questioning and points solves nothing but confirm truth is not the issue here, but loyalty.
Venom mouth has no kind words to people who legitimately have a problem with his approach and language.

My pointing out these realities gets what from you? An accusation of vile names. Venom mouth is a correct and apt description of the toxic claims put out without proof or fear of impact which deal with innocents as if they are crooks. This is the true reality of vile names and disgust, that anyone would not have the grace to realise politicians make law, change laws and can affect anyone and everyone in society. They get their office because enough people believe they can represent them. In the UK the term honourable is used, to remind people of who these individuals are and the high regard they should be treated with.

It is a sin to bear false witness against your neighbour. To falsely call someone a crook is a sin. How is it such a sin is taken so lightly by believers who claim to be followers of Jesus, whose example is to love and care for everyone.

A snake uses venom to kill its foes, to paralyse them, so they find it hard to respond.
As I have said the trouble with this venom it will eat alive those who use it, when the tables are turned.

Melania said she hated christmas and all the f..... work. Not a good idea to then try and put a show on that you love the new christmas tree coming into the white house.

I wonder the revenge venom mouth is plotting..... an expose on the deep state that stole the election from him..... hahahahahahaha

As time goes on, I have little respect or expectation of anything sensible coming from venom mouth, because it is all driven by anger.....
 

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I have dream. One day Trump will salute his president Joe Biden and pledge allegiance to the flag, which founds the USA.

When feelings are loyalties run so deep, it becomes loyalty to an individual is strong than to the principles that bind a society together you know things have gone deeply wrong. I actually believe in these ideals, and dislike the idea in the UK we have loyalty to a royal family who have been a cardboard cut out of how to not have a family. I love the Queen and her loyalty to duty and service, but that is where it ends.

So I wonder does the USA still know itself and do the Trump movement leave him behind, and move on to the next real challenger to the political throne. Trump is 74, how much longer, 78 or 82 for the next opportunity. I think for him the next two years are going to be very hard.
He is a phenomenon which will fuel books and analysis for the next 20 years or more.

Fake news is also so odd. Journalists do write junk and opinion pieces that are wrong, but also they get stuff right. Their job is sensationalism, exaggeration, sex scandles, murder, financial corruption, urgent disaster etc. They have never been that reliable, but just about ok. They survive because they get stuff generally ok, and when we are interested point us in the right direction. But to call it all fake news, is literally stupid and dumb. It is the opposite of reasonable consideration, and showing total bias with an agenda. It is ironic as the fake news idea, is suggesting this very thing against others. But underneath it, the trend is control the media to only say what you want. Literally once you have this level of control you have a society. But if you want a dictator overthrow, you need to topple these notions.

As a believer, I know to have a voice we need the media, we need discussion, we need openness. So when believers start down fake news, they are destroying the very thing that brings them life. And if they dislike the reporting, write their own reports. Set up a website and publish. You soon discover the majority do not care and it is much harder than it appears. And with Donalds twitter feed on over drive, he spews fake news all the time, not realising it discredits everything else he is saying. Journalists have editors who check their sources etc. and legal liabilities.

But then the trouble with egotists, they only see the greatest person in the world in the mirror.

God bless you
 

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This is an amazing replay of what it was like at the TFC in Detroit
The Inside Story of Michigan’s Fake Voter Fraud Scandal

The story is simply played out with different approaches and stresses of the days and the count.
As believers we desire to see the truth and understand what is happening.

The crux of this is how honest and truthful was the election, and how miss-leading or real is the testimony of fraud etc.
My personal take on the testimony is it fits with everything I have heard and seen in pictures etc.

It also illustrates how a false narrative can be built up on purpose with hysteria without any proper justification.
Normally the right authorities can calm it down with good leadership, but not with the current leader and their own agenda.

God bless you

Quotes from the piece
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When Trump addressed the nation from the White House on Thursday night, insisting the election had been “stolen” from him, he returned time and again to alleged misconduct in Michigan’s biggest city. Detroit, he smirked, “I wouldn’t say has the best reputation for election integrity.” He said the city “had hours of unexplained delay” in counting ballots, and when the late batches arrived, “nobody knew where they came from.” He alleged that Republicans had been “denied access to observe any counting in Detroit” and that the windows had been covered because “they didn’t want anybody seeing the counting.”

All of this was a lie. Republicans here—from Ronna Romney McDaniel to Laura Cox to federal and local lawmakers—knew it was a lie. But they didn’t lift a finger in protest as the president disparaged Michigan and subverted America’s democratic norms. Why?
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My observation for the piece:-
Van Langevelde is a hero. He was prepared to certify the vote in Michigan against the obvious will of the republican party, because for him it was his job.
This is how believers in the Lord stand, to their conscience and not to the pressure of the world.

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“A lot of our leaders in this country ought to be ashamed of themselves,” said Thomas, the nonpartisan elections guru who kept Michigan’s governing class guessing his political affiliation for the past several decades. “They have propagated this narrative of massive fraud, and it’s simply not true. They’ve leapt from some human error to massive fraud. It’s like a leap to Never Neverland. And people are believing them.”
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