Prophecies against the United States

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Thus Says The Lord to the United States, and to All the Churches of Men Which Dwell Within Its Borders: Return to Me! Stand Up or Bow Down!... Call Out, Cry and Wail!
11/28/07 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Son of men, prophesy; prophesy and speak against your nation all My words... Timothy, lift up your voice and prophesy! Give unto them My word, even to all the churches of men contained within its borders; speak My words against them, even in all manner of speaking and devices, says The Lord.


Hear the Word of The Lord!...

Thus says The Lord: O nation, once called of itself “under God”, you have raised yourselves above Me... You shall be brought VERY low! And because you have said within yourselves, even aloud, saying, “We are not under God, nor do we serve any god. Right is wrong, and wrong is right and the right of the individual.” Therefore, because you have spoken in such a manner, you shall surely come to know God!



You shall come to know Me in My anger!...



I shall show you what is right,

And I, even I, shall cause you to discern!...



And you shall choose! Says The Lord.



Behold! The Sword has come! And under God shall you be placed, once again! Yet not as at the first when you blessed My name, no, not as at the first... But in subjection, in recompense, under God in punishment, in retribution, in correction, in discipline, under the shadow of My judgment!... Under God, My footstool!... Then shall you know and remember, I AM THE LORD!



O mighty nation, cease from your adulteries and return to Me...



For I had blessed you;

I had bestowed upon you great abundance...



Yet now you have gone out to pervert your way

And desecrate all I have given you...



Hardening your hearts, forsaking the poor,

Turning your faces away from the afflicted.





You have become a harlot, an adulterous woman,

Perverting her way among many lovers...



Return! Says The Lord...



Return to Me.




Churches and servants, hear the Word of The Lord!...

Thus says The Lord God, The Holy One of Israel: Arise and speak! Servants, stand up and blow the trumpet! Raise an alarm!...

O mighty nation, your time has come! It is here, it has come! Judgment shall reign!... It is here, it has come!... Oh how the mighty have fallen, oh how the stout-hearted are undone! Sons of men, look on what you have done! Look on all you have wrought in My name! Even My own beloved have turned from Me and pervert their way among all these witnesses, dividing My Word to their own gain, uplifting and exalting themselves by the power of MY Word!... Segregation! A great perversion of speech among all these called of themselves by The Christ’s name, polluting the name of My Son, The Holy One, whose name is one with The Father!

Churches of men, built up and named among yourselves, by yourselves, to your own glory... You are undone and cast off as an abominable seed, sprouting and growing where I, Myself, have not planted you! Growing and spreading, shooting forth all kinds of branches, of which I have not pruned nor watered!... Neither do you grow from The Vine.

Behold, even now you continue to grow, becoming as the vine of the earth, spreading forth all your abominations throughout the land, making them desolate, putting down roots wheresoever you list, consuming all water and rich soil... Degradation!



O abominable vine, you grow in the sand...



The shifting sands of religion!...



A dry root, with many broken and entangled branches,

Choked by all these doctrines...



The perverse doctrines of men!



You are left desolate, undone and estranged, receiving neither the early nor latter rains, living in the midst of a land who has forsaken Me! For they have turned their backs on Me and run greedily into their own destruction!... And you, O churches of men, have failed to blow the trumpet! For you are divided, continually dividing yourselves amongst yourselves! The upholding of pride, the putting on of all filthy robes of arrogance!... Darkness of faces.

Churches of men, your land and nation stinks; a foul stench has come up into My nostrils. Yet there you sit upon all your thrones, saying, “We alone are righteous. We alone serve God and shall be sheltered in the Day of The Lord”... WOE TO YOU, O CHURCHES OF MEN! Hypocrites! As you have divided yourselves, so shall I, even I, divide you in judgment! As sheep from the goats, so shall you be divided!



Churches of men, I shall sift you and you shall be shaken!...



Until all your walls have crumbled,

And all your tall towers have fallen down, with a great crash!



No partition shall be left standing! All this enmity shall be stripped away!... And I shall again make you one, says The Lord. No more shall your diviners sing to you of peace and tranquility. No more shall you come before Me, arrayed in purple and scarlet robes, touting your expensive garments, tinkling as you go with all your shining ornaments... Your visage is detestable to Me!

Your shepherds teach lies, your diviners of peace and prosperity, divinations from their own imaginations, brought forth from their own hearts, led astray by seducing spirits!... And oh how your flocks love to have it so... Shall I not recompense you for all these things?! Shall I not correct and discipline you for all these things?!

Churches of men, why do you sit still, growing fat, consuming all these doctrines made by human hands?!... Stand up or bow down! Shout to your nation or bow down! Fall on your faces! Says The Lord. Rent your clothes, howl and wail! Put on sackcloth, cover your heads with dust and ashes!... REPENT! Take up a lamentation! Sound the trumpet to your kindred and countrymen! Stop hiding in your houses you call by My name! I DO NOT DWELL THERE!... COME OUT! COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM!

You were to be an example preparing My way before Me, a beacon on a hill, watchmen blowing the trumpet. Yet what do I hear, O sons and daughters of men within the churches?... Faint murmuring, gossiping, backbiting, accusations, lies, corruptions, envies, strifes, laughing, babbling, seditions, vanities... Vexation of spirit!



Churches of men, My face is turned against you!

For you are neither cold nor hot!...



Oh how I wish you were one or the other!...



Therefore, because you have become as lukewarm water,

Even now becoming stagnant and rank,

Behold I shall spit you from My mouth

And bring upon your land a dark storm!



For your land has done great evil in My sight!... And you, O churches of men, have held fast to the veil, pulling it down over your faces! Yet from among you I have already taken many, even a multitude who stand without. And these I have anointed and set in their places. They have received of Me and grow vigorously from The Vine, having been pruned and watered by My own hand. These shall be as fire, for they burn from within, having My own fire within them. I shall stoke them and cause them to burn bright, and they shall go for Me... Lo, they shall blow the trumpet! They shall sound the alarm! They shall serve to you all My fierce rebukes! Behold! They shall serve it to you hot, and you shall be burned!

Churches of men, I shall tear you down, even all you have built! I shall sift you and stir you up! Says The Lord. For if I do not serve to you correction and discipline, assuredly, I say to you, you shall never enter into My rest. You say you know Me and have received of My Son, Jesus The Christ, Yeshua The Gift and Messiah, even saying that you yourselves are anointed... Woe, I say to you! Lie not to yourselves! For you carry lamps with no oil; neither do you have any love for God in your hearts! For if you really knew Me, and lived in My Son, you would do what He did.

Beloved, awake! Awake out of your sleep! Be shaken out of your slumber! Arise and serve your God!... Repent and receive of Me, even of The Holy One, whom you call Christ. Stop stifling My Spirit! Stop persecuting all those I send to you in My own name!... Ears open, My people! The time has come! Lo, it is here!

Look! Your nation destroys the innocent on every side! Fornications and abominations fill the streets! These things are not hidden!... My people, what has happened to your hearts?! You are all as dead corpses!... AWAKE AND LIVE! Says The Lord of Hosts.

Cast off all these riches and sell everything you have built up with MY money, and give it to the poor and the needy. Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked. Embrace the fatherless and the widow, shelter the stranger and the homeless, tend to the sick and visit those in prison... Execute true judgment! Stop judging amongst yourselves, of yourselves, according to your own corrupt knowledge!... Perceive rightly and be stirred up!

Churches of men, why has anger not come up into your faces?! Where is your outrage?! Can you not see?!... Look! They are murdering My innocent! They destroy and tear My most precious gifts to men and women, without ceasing!... Where are your tears?! I hear no wailing at all!... CALAMITY! TRAVESTY!... Abominations swell! Sodom and Gomorrah are revived and thrive before your faces! Beloved, sin and violence spread forth in every direction, overflowing your nation as a flood!

Sons and daughters of men within the churches, what has happened to you?! Do you even know My name?! You have forgotten Me and hide your faces! You stop your ears from hearing!... I no longer know you! For whatsoever you do or do not, to the least of these, most assuredly I say to you, YOU HAVE DONE IT TO ME! Says The Lord, your Redeemer.

Therefore, stand up and pay attention, lest I destroy you as I destroyed Sodom and overthrew Gomorrah!...

Behold! The riches of men shall be taken from them in a day, and recompense in full shall be dealt to your nation! And not one of your temples shall stand!... All shall be torn down! All shall be brought down!...

And though you had set it on a tall mountain, in the midst of high walls, thick walls built of strong and tempered mortar, it shall be shaken to dust, it shall be thrown down!... Left utterly desolate.



You shall surely be left naked, stripped of all your clothes...



Then I shall remember you...



And you shall establish your trust in The Beloved, once again;

And you shall keep your life, for Love has saved you...



And you shall escape, but as one escaping through the flames.





I am The Lord.








Thus Says The Lord Against the United States: You Have Hastened the Day!

5/21/08 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Thus says The Lord God, THE GOD, The God of Israel, The God of all: I am coming down in My anger, and wrath shall blaze before Me! I shall fulfill My judgment, for it has come! It shall no more tarry, for the time has come!... Behold! I shall consume and destroy, tear down and make an end!



Woe to you, O mighty and perverse nation,
For you stand united and proud!...

UNITED IN TRANSGRESSION!...

Woe to you! WOE TO YOU! Says The Lord God...

The Lord of hosts is My name, The Everlasting.



Behold, your travail has come, O proud and perverse nation! You are undone! For I, even I, shall divide you, and bring you very low! Says The Lord in His anger. For I have called to you, yet you have not answered! I have spoken to you, even arising early and sending My servants, the prophets, yet you turn to Me a deaf ear!... Behold, your Savior does continually speak to you, yet you want no part with Him!
Sorrows, bitter sorrows, many tears... I take no pleasure at all in your dismemberment, says The Lord. For you have not answered, neither have you repented of all these abominations, neither have you turned aside. Yet you run, yes you run, running headlong toward your destruction while shaking your fists toward Heaven.



Therefore, listen and understand:

I, MYSELF, HAVE SEEN IT!
It is not covered, neither is it hidden!...

A parading of your whoredoms, vanities, greed and licentiousness!...

AND MURDER!

Even to the destroying of the innocent, without remorse!...

Man with man, woman to woman, to the polluting of marriage,
Of which I had sanctified in My own name!...

The defiling of flesh, even of this temple I have given you!...

ABOMINATION!



Therefore, thus says The Lord your Maker, yes I, The Creator of all things!... Thus says The Lord God: You have hastened the Day, O perverse and arrogant generation! Even you have hastened the Day! It shall no more tarry! Judgment has come, it is here! My arm is out-stretched! You are fallen!... Undone, says The Lord.
For I have indeed called to you, and in return what do I hear?!... BLASPHEMIES of such a kind!... Of which your forefathers would have never accepted! For I tell you, if they were able to behold it, if they had lived to see the day, their hearts would have waxed cold, with their faces paling, their eyes gathering blackness... And yet you neigh, being led from here to there, as though you had no mind or spirit at all!

Therefore, thus says The Lord: You are all rotting corpses! And the stench of your flesh shall be for a testament against you, even for all those who are afar off, who take to themselves My name and then in turn pollute it!...
Did you think you had received, being blessed in this land, of yourselves?! Behold, it was I, even I, who had done it!... Even according to the desire of your forefathers, who came seeking to build a nation of freedom, building it upon My Word and My foundations written in The Scriptures of Truth, resting solidly upon My Law, the bedrock by which all shall govern themselves... Yet you turned, and desecrated and corrupted My name for your own glory, taking that which is Mine and calling it your own.



Sons of men, of this nation once called of itself,
“One nation under God”...

I DO NOT KNOW YOU!...

Neither do any of these churches, built up and named of men,
Seek My face, nor do they walk in My ways...

Even to the utter forsaking of MY Law!



Pastors and teachers, you have not received of Me, neither do you know Me or My will! Stop blaspheming and teaching your flocks, in MY name! You teach heresies and lies, in your own names, by which you have appointed yourselves! I have not sent you, neither have I appointed you, yet there you are, teaching and preaching in My name, taking tithes from the people.
Churches of men, stop speaking! Shut your mouths! Be silent before your God! AND REPENT! Give back all which you have stolen from Me, and tear down these walls; sell all you have, and give it to the poor!... Before calamity comes.

Thus says The Lord: Churches of men, you were to be My examples. You were to uphold My Moral Law, even by Jesus Christ who you say lives in you... I DO NOT SEE HIM! Therefore, I say, repent! Wail, and bring forth many tears, even for all those innocent slain before your eyes, in where you have not taken a stand.
Churches of men, My face is set hard against you! Your stench rises to Heaven! Even all your musings and soft words have entered into My ears, a perversion among many faces... Preach My Word IN TRUTH! Be instant, in and out of season, never ceasing from testifying to the hope that I have given you in Christ. Stop tickling the ears of all these hearers. For you have all become like the soothsayers, like smooth-talkers who lull My people to sleep, saying, “Peace, peace and safety, riches will come. Trust in The Lord”... Am I a God afar off?! Or am I a God close at hand?!
Therefore, because you have spoken in this manner, ignoring My correction, refusing to harken to My words; neither have you sought after true wisdom, choosing rather to rest upon human power, even upon all these perverse doctrines, the doctrines of men...



Thus says The Lord:

You, even you, O churches of men, shall fall also.
Behold, you are fallen already.

For nothing, within your nation’s borders,
Shall escape My judgment...

All shall be thrown down!



Thus have I spoken against you, O peoples of these United States, and so shall it be done. For I, The Lord your God have proclaimed it, and behold I, even I, shall bring it to pass, for all your forsaking of Me and My Law. For I had written it upon your hearts, yet you have scraped off the writing, leaving your hearts broken and scarred, desolate and void of The Spirit. For whosoever comes speaking against My Word, or against My prophets, shall be left utterly desolate... Even from those who cast stones at them, in open and in secret, have I removed My hand already.

My children, oh My beloved, you have turned from Me and have cast yourselves into the pit, and from My glory are you far removed... O My sleeping children, awaken from this darkness and open your eyes!...

For there is but One Way before you, and only One Escape from all these things wrought in My fury... Only One Highway to travel, Only One Path to tread, Only One Ladder to Heaven. Even from the foundation of the world, there has been but One... One Way, One Truth and One Life... CALL ON HIS NAME!
Do not wait, for now is the time! Today is the Day of Salvation!... CALL OUT! And come back to Me by way of My Son, The Holy One, the only name under Heaven by which you must be saved. For He is called: Jesus Christ The Lord, Yeshua The Messiah... His name: YahuShua HaMashiach, My Son in whom I am well pleased... The Only Begotten of The Father, The Salvation of God whose name is one with The Father... O Immanu El!



Behold, The Day has come, even ten days of sorrow,
Of great wailing and gnashing of teeth...

Bitter tears...


THE DAY OF THE LORD.

Thus Says the Lord to the United States and the Churches of Men Therein: I am Moved from My Place

Listen:
9/1/09 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Jayse, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Behold, you wicked and perverse generation!... Yea, even you, oh nation once called of itself under God!...



Thus says The Lord:

I am moved from My place!...
I have seen the abominations wrought in your land!



Thus says The Lord:

I will destroy!



Did you think I would not speak?!...

Did you think all your wickedness was hidden from My eyes?!



And you, leaders of the churches of men, you who profane My name and My sabbaths, you who blaspheme The Spirit of God, it shall be accounted unto you ten-fold!… I shall repay! For you have led My people astray!... Teaching doctrines of demons!... Robbing My people while putting a veil over their eyes, keeping the Truth hidden from them!...



REPENT!

My cup has turned… It shall be poured out!


Prophets! Witnesses! Go forth!...
Receive of My fullness, and sing in one accord!



Hear The Word of The Most High:

The time has come!...

REPENT!



The Lord has spoken.

 

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PROPHECY AGAINST THE COMMUNIST SOCIALISTS AND THE NATIONS ALLIED WITH RUSSIA.


Isa 34:5-8
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
8 For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
(KJV)


Isa 34:5-8
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
8 For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
(KJV)

Amos 2:1-2
1 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Moab, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he burned the bones of the king of Edom into lime:
2 But I will send a fire upon Moab, and it shall devour the palaces of Kerioth: and Moab shall die with tumult, with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet:
(KJV)

Obad 1:8
8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
(KJV)

Mal 1:4-5
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.
(KJV)


Ezek 38:1-23
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
(KJV)

 

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The Gift of Discernment
Listen:
9/5/04 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Question asked by Timothy: Lord, is the United States “Babylon”, as many churches believe?


[Answer from God The Father] The United States will fall, fall to the antichrist.
In one hour will I bring total destruction to the throne of the beast, that great city of harlots and every unclean thing. Not to your nation, for I had blessed it and made it strong... Even so does it go the way of evil, and under My punishment does it remain. Yet of it, I will not make a total end... Though it receive harsh correction and severe punishment at My hand, I will not make a total end. So then, I will take My people out of it and let it go its way. Doomed as it may seem, many more of My people will I take out of it, in the years remaining... Babylon it is not.

As you study My Word, do you not know I am with you?... Also, I am bestowing understanding...



Speak aloud, listen, understand, feel what is right...
Put the world out of your mind.

Read the words and have understanding...
See the Word’s meaning... Trust in your heart.

Follow your instincts, for it is not instinct at all,
But I, The Father, speaking to you from that place deep inside,
That only I know and have made for you, so you may know Me.



From this day forth will I give understanding to you, Timothy, and wisdom to your wife do I also give. Each time you read My Word, and take to heart those words of The Son, will more be given to you. Write down what you have learned, and watch the meaning come to light...



My words are for all peoples to hear and understand...
If they so choose to love Me...

Then will their eyes be opened and their ears unstopped.


My words are what they are... No more, no less...
I would have told you if this was not so.

I did not set them before you as a puzzle or riddle to be unraveled...

But rather a gift, a light, so one does not have to grovel in the dark.



So leave behind all your preconceptions...

And just believe.

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My Chosen Shall Stand Up

Listen:
11/1/07 From YahuShua HaMashiach, Jesus The Christ, Our Lord and Savior - A Letter Given to Timothy, For His Wife, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Timothy, speak to your beloved, and give her My word; speak to her My own words, saying...

Beloved, the time has come, the day of sorrows is here... Be strong, yea be very strong. For I shall now come upon you and fill you with My own Spirit, and you also shall testify. Yea, all My chosen shall stand up for Me in the face of great persecution. For they are My body, My blood, one flock who hear My voice, singing together in concert.

And of your husband... Look to him, Beloved, look to him. And though the day is coming when you will not recognize him, you shall surely come to lean upon him. For he shall become a staff, even a rock which can not be moved. Behold, I have put My words in his mouth; lo, I have given him a sharp sword. For his word shall be as fire, and his arm as Samson! And in the day, which comes quickly, he shall put down the trumpet and take up the buckler and shield!...



Behold, his sword shall be raised!...



And I shall cause him to strike at the nations

In a loud voice, with a renewed and loud voice!...



A recompense and a great shaking!...



The boiling of blood...



The shedding of tears.

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Recompense

Listen:
11/25/07 A dream of a coming storm, which The Lord gave to a brother in Christ

I saw a storm coming. The area, where the storm was approaching from, was just the open sky, but there was the sense that it was coming from out over the ocean. I could not tell which coast I was looking out from, but I knew I was looking from America. The storm clouds were approaching and getting darker and thicker. Then three tornadoes, or waterspouts, broke down out of the storm, all at once, and headed for the shore.

After a small lapse of time, I saw myself climbing up some stairs in a house, to my bed in an upper room. I laid down in this bed, and realized that my resting place had changed. The head of the bed had shifted from facing the West, and it was now facing the East.





11/28/07 From God The Father - The Interpretation of the Dream, Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

The Day has come! It is here! It has come! Says The Lord God...

I shall repay! Your nation is given up, and will be left in ruins, for all its forsaking of Me! For the roof is heavily weighted; all its pillars are cracked and no longer can bear the weight of their burden... Behold, the wind shall blow, the fire shall burn, and all these riches shall be consumed!



A swift storm shall come upon you,

And you shall not know from where it comes,

For it is already upon you, and is yet coming.



It shall reach across the oceans;

It shall be swift and catch you unawares;

It is building and grows in its fury...



It builds and has come!



And this shall be its consequence upon you, thus shall it bring forth against you: Confusion, a swirling wind; water, a flood of fear; destruction, collapse of all your foundations... Behold, even the earth shall rise up against you, and nature shall fight against you, O perverse and mighty nation!

And when three times pass, it shall be accomplished, it shall surely come to pass... The elect shall be gathered, all those in whom I see of Myself, My own reflection shown within the eyes of the first redeemed from the earth. For in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, they shall climb The Ladder and lie down and rest for a short season, even in the place I have prepared for them. They shall rest and give worship, until the Day is done and it is finished. Then shall they arise and descend with The King... And as the lightning flashes out of the east, and fills the sky even unto the west, so shall the coming of The Son of Man be.



For your leaders have cast their lot

With the Ishmaelites, in the dividing of MY land...



Even of the children’s inheritance,

I had given to their forefathers, forever...



And so I shall divide them...

With calamity!

With famine!

And with destitution!



Yet they will turn, and anger shall swell in their faces over much betrayal, causing them to repent of that which they had promised. And they will again stand with the children of Abraham, until three days pass over. Then shall they be given into the hand of him, called the horn of satan... Their name dissolved, becoming one of the ten for one hour, then plucked up and broken, during which time The Lord shall bring forth of them a great harvest, a great and mighty harvest, a great multitude, a refined and strong people for My name.



Then the end will come...

The King shall reign...



And that accomplished shall be finished, it shall be completed...





Peace...

One thousand years.

 

[veteran]

God is going to 'visit' the following nations on the last day of our time, these nations who come upon His Israel to try and destroy..;.

Ezek.38:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Meshech and Tubal represent Russia.


4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

Is not Iran-Iraq (Persia) allied with Communist Russia today? Yes. Is not Libya allied with Communist Russia today? Yes. Gomer represents areas in the north of the old Soviet satellite nations. Did not Communist Russia sends troops and tanks into the state of Georgia when some the leaders of Georgia tried to join with western nations under NATO? Yes, Russia did that. Togarmah was the old areas of Cappodocia, modern areas of Turkey.


7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
(KJV)

Excepting Turkey's moving over to ally with Communist Russia, the nation alignment of Ezekiel 38 is almost complete today.

 

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Wow. Lots of proclamations written here. None friendly to Uncle Sam, either.

Rather than comment on them all, please allow me to submit an adjustment here and there. Specifically I refer to the list of players in the game of the end times. If you don't know the players you can't have a clear idea of what's about to happen in the next few months and years.

I began with Arab Spring and crystalized my research with the Syrian issue. I began with the events of 2011 in North Africa because I was confused about what was going on there. My vision and I guess that of most Americans is rather myopic. Its channeled into a narrow view because the information we're allowed to hear is editorialized and censored. Nevertheless there are nuggets of truth lying around to be picked up by anyone who dares to make the effort. The list of players in the oil wars of the middle east is one such truth. Biblical eschatology is another.

I worked on the Syrian issue by making two lists on a blank sheet of paper. Countries allied on one side and nations allied on the other. Immediately I discovered that there was a mysterious third player that few news sources referred to directly. This single nation stands in the shadows and directs other nations like a master puppeteer. Americans are unable to see this or even suspect it because we are so extremely nationalistic.

American hegemony is everywhere, so said OBL. He was right, you know. American arrogance has come to believe that all the nations of the world revolve around us as well as the sun the moon and all the stars of heaven. We believe that God is a servant of Washington, DC too, at least those of us who still believe in God. If one were to suggest that God might not be entirely enthusiastic with the deeds of America these days, such a person might be very close to being burned at the stake, figuratively speaking of course. To suggest that America is being manipulated by another nation into doing things which aren't exactly in our best national interest is secular heresy if not treasonous.

That being said I submit that the student of world current events must also study, at least superficially, the history and intent of other nations and blocks of power. Since I was looking at Syria I naturally focused upon Islam. I was in for a rude shock.

Upon the death of Mohammad (pbuh) the founder, prophet and chief warlord of Islam, his lieutenants gradually drifted away from the true faith and began arguments and small pitched battles with one another. The issue, as always, was control of the masses; political control & religious control. At about the seventh century there was a major battle in Iran between those who believed in a line of family succession and those who believed that leaders should be chosen according to their merits and/or political influence. The military issue became a stalemate and everybody went home without resolving the argument. Except that the argument continues to this day.

Islam today is divided into two major groups. The Shia sect is primarily located in the modern nation of Iran. Between ten and fifteen percent of the world's Muslims are Shiites. Shia authority is based upon the line of succession of leaders very similar to the Roman Catholic church; apostolic succession. The organization of Shia Islam very nearly parallels Catholicism. Their 'pope' as it were is a fellow by the name of Ayatolla Ali Khamenei. The Ayatolla holds absolute political and religious power. The president (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) is a figurehead with limited power. Actually Mr. Ahmadinejad was a bad boy recently when he tried to grab power from the Ayatolla. He failed and is not expected to be 'invited' to remain, but that's another story.

The Sunni sect is loosely organized much like Protestant Christians in America. Leadership is generally determined by vote or local importance. Eighty per cent of the world's Muslims are Sunni. The remaining five per cent or so consist of several rather small groups which loosely identify themselves with the major groups. The major Sunni nation is Saudi Arabia, home of Mecca and the religions' founder.

Which brings us back to the main issue at hand. Who is in charge of Islam? The war continues boys and girls and we are but pawns in the game. Research indicates that the silent player and manipulator in the present middle east games is the Sunni sect. Next time you review Syrian news have a care to examine what American news sources call 'ethnic warfare'. What ethnic? Sunni vs. Shia, that's what ethnic. It was the same in Iraq, it is the same for most of what was called Arab Spring and will be the principle motivation for a general invasion of Iran in the next few months and years. Iranian development of atomic weapons is merely an excuse much like WMDs in Iraq.

Lets flesh out the players in the Syrian debacle. Saudi Arabia is quiet in the shadows. Exactly what they are doing is not clear except that their client states are acting in their interest. Have a close look at Turkey. Turkey is mostly Sunni. Is that any surprise? The cities that are being shelled in Syria are Sunni settlements and guess which side of the table President Assad sits on. If you guess Shiite you guess correctly. Ethnic Muslim war. Is this any of Americas business? It is if we're going to continue to buy oil from the Saudis. Is the picture getting clearer?

In the city of Istanbul there is a museum that contains the green battle flag used by Mohammad in his wars. His sword is there too along with a few hairs from his head. There is an old Muslim prophecy that says dark things about a future time when Mohammad's green battle flag flies once again at the head of an army.

In Tehran the twelvers, those who look for the return of the twelfth Imam Mohammad al-Mahdi (thought by some to be the anti-Christ), stand ready to go to war. They say that they will fly the black flag of Khorasan. Remember that old battle between the Sunnis and the Shiites I mentioned earlier. How strange that the ancient province of Khorasan is nearby. When the green battle flag of Mohammad (Sunni Turkey & Saudi Arabia) and the black flag of Khorasan (Shia Iran) fly together in battle guess which nation will be the object of their murderous ministrations?

Watch Turkey. Watch Arabia. What or who will ultimately bring these old warring factions together? Will America allow itself to be caught in the middle of a terrible grudge match? I believe we are already involved, perhaps much too deeply. More on that later, but I believe I can say that the pivotal point for Uncle Sam will be war with Iran. The Syrian issue must be decided before American tanks roll again and the Syrian issue won't be decided until after the November election. Politics as usual and American arrogance and foolishness reign supreme. Wisdom is a very rare commodity in Washington these days.

Pray every day that God will hold Israel in the palm of His hand. When the enemies of Israel join together there will be no one else to defend that small nation.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

As a post script, I wish to add a news item recently published on Hurriyet Daily News, a Turkish English news outlet.
The following is a cut & paste quotation......................

Hurriyet Daily News
June 14, 2012

Istanbul is hosting Syrian National Council for support of its opposition to the Syrian Assad government.
Unnamed gulf states are financing the opposition war, which is now classified as a civil war. Some financing
is also coming from France & UK. The SNC is the primary organization responsible for providing weapons.
------------------end of quote-------------------------------

This is evidence that Turkey now admits to assuming, however tentatively, a role of leadership in the 'ethnic' battles of the region. Did you notice the reference to 'unnamed gulf states'?

Watch Turkey.

 

[veteran]

Watch Turkey, watch Syria, but absolutely nothing about watching Russia and the continuing existence of world Communism's plan to establish a one-world government over all nations, using radical Islam as a tool!

 

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Watch Turkey, watch Syria, but absolutely nothing about watching Russia and the continuing existence of world Communism's plan to establish a one-world government over all nations, using radical Islam as a tool!

Actually it isn't communism, but Islam that has world domination in its cross hairs. Russia and China, like the nations of the west are also pawns in the game. As I said earlier, the principle players are Shia and Sunni muslims.

As an exercise, take a close look at American communism (www.cpusa.com). Their rhetoric is mostly unchanged and at times they support the progressive left so as to get photo ops, but mostly they take a back seat to groups with much greater money and focus; muslims. Have you been to a major US city recently? Betcha you've seen a lot of muslims there. How many reds have you seen? hmmm

Examine middle eastern trade partners. That's where political alliances and intentions are best revealed. Follow the money. China is experiencing massive industrial growth and has recently signed agreements with Iran for more oil. How does oil from Iran get to China? Through the straits of Hormuz of course. Iranian threats to mine the waters of the Persian Gulf are bluffs because they can't and won't risk loosing a major client. Iranian threats to sink American war ships in the Persian Gulf are not without foundation. They possess the Sunburn missile. Google it. At mach3 the weapon is undetectable and totally lethal. The kinetic energy of an impact alone is sufficient to sink most vessels, forget about a warhead of any kind.

RUSSIA IS CAUTIOUS diplomatically speaking. They always have been. America is a cowboy. Always has been. The USA always jumps in with guns blazin' and the cavalry in hot pursuit of the bad guys. Russia hides in the shadows like a coiled snake. Today that coil is extremely deadly.

Russia and China both act and believe that they were sucked into supporting 'Arab Spring' in 2011. By the time it became obvious that the whole thing was a ploy by the Saudis, UK, France and America to extend their absolute hegemony over the region it was too late. Assad held out in Syria and for a time preserved his grip on power by ruthless suppression of western and Sunni sponsored uprisings.

Lately Putin has been making the rounds and has announced that Russia will no longer supply certain weapon systems to the Syrian government. Russia is cautious and seems to be saying that they think the time has come to back off and let Assad fall. I give the situation six to eight months before collapse of the Assad government. Why is the American partnership so concerned about 'taking' Syria? Syrian ports have access to shipping lanes in the Mediterranean and can provide supply routes by land through Iraq for a land based invasion of Iran. Those ports, by the way, are beyond the range of the Sunburn.

But Russia, ever nervous about western aggression, is waiting with a terrible weapon. The Cicero Foundation (Maastricht, Netherlands) published a white paper recently about Russian preparations for confrontation with the west. Central to the new arsenal are TNWs (tactical nuclear weapons) carried by cruise missile. The Medvedev Doctrine justifies the use of these weapons to "de-escalate western aggression". This policy of 'nuclear de-escalation' is a Russian term, not mine.

In 1999 and again in 2009 military exercises referred to as the Zopad maneuvers (Zopad 1999 & Zopad 2009) demonstrated the need of Russia to create a system that would counteract American hi-tech (and unbeatable) weaponry. The average explosive power of an American Tomahawk cruise missile is approximately 1 ton. The bomb system known as 'daisy cutters' is between a half ton and one ton of explosive. The largest bomb in the American inventory is the notorious bunker buster, which weighs in at 2 tons of explosive power. Imagine, then, the impact of Russian TNWs with an average, that's average, explosive effect of between 100 and 200 tons! Currently the Russian Bear and Blackjack bombers are capable of carrying these cruise missiles BUT PUTIN has been urging the development OF A NEW RUSSIAN HEAVY BOMBER capable of carrying more than a dozen of these missiles EACH.

There's a lot of quiet noise being made by the Russians that if America invaded Iran, they would use those weapons. Americans loudly claim that they can counter anything the Russkies throw at us, but America has always been a loud cowboy act. When Russia starts whispering about some deadly new weapon somebody ought to take them seriously.

An invasion of Iran could result in a deadly and serious reversal of fortunes for America and the west. That would leave Russia and China standing by unscathed victorious and ready to furnish anything the Muslims needed to attack Israel. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine the Muslim sects making peace with one another so as to vanquish once and for all a tiny nation they perceive to be a thorn in their side.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

[Saint]

The exact details of how these things will occur are somewhat academic and Islam is moving at warp speed to the New United States of Islam. Any action the U.S. takes at this point leads to disaster; only Yahweh can sort this thing out and it is up to Him as to the future of this nation if there is one!

In many respects this nation is just another beast nation blessed by Yahweh and it is entirely possible that Yahweh has removed His blessing and before long He will remove His people and take them to Canaan just like He did when He removed them from Egypt. After all Yahweh did bless Egypt in the beginning, to provide a refuge for His people Israel.

In Yeshua Messiah,

Bob

 

[dragonfly]

www.trunews.com may be of interest, here, but remember, days are evil and men are evil, but we have the armour of light to protect us.

 

[veteran]

It is gross error to take a ride on the smear wagon against the U.S. and its allied western nations under Christ Jesus. Just because the nation has been under subversive attack from within by Christ's enemies is no reason to think that God is giving up on the very nations He established in The Gospel of Jesus Christ. You see, this argument goes a lot deeper than mere moanings of nationalism.

All nations are going to go under the "one world government" structure by Satan's servants, because God has ordained that to happen. That does not mean the nations Christ first established in The Gospel will be destroyed by that. They can change the color of the flag, move the captiol, call it something else, but that won't destroy God's people which God gave it to.

One of the ways to know this is by understanding about the Gog-Magog armies that will come out of the northern quarters upon Israel on the last day of this present world (Ezekiel 38 - 39). The nation alignment of Ezek.38 is almost complete today, with only Turkey as a hold out. That's why I say watch Turkey today.

Many have not considered just who all that Israel of Ezekiel 38 includes today, and where. There's two Israel's today under God, one in the middleast and the other is made up of the "multitude of nations" under Ephraim in the Christian West. That's why the western Christian nations have been under attack by Satan's host, targeted for takeover like the middleast nation of Israel that's already fallen and prepared for the coming of the Antichrist.

Ever since the U.S. bought the territory of Alaska from Russia in 1867 for 7.2 million dollars (called Seward's folly), Russia has been wanting it back. Alaska has produced many natural resources for the U.S. since it was acquired. For the past couple of decades Russia has built Bear bomber bases on their eastern borders near Alaska. And it's only a little hop, skip and a jump across the Beiring Straits out of the north to invade Alaska and come downwards through Canada.

It ain't over until the fat lady sings, so don't count Russia out just yet. God certainly hasn't since He pointed to Russia within the Ezekiel 38 prophecy, even giving us the nations that will be aligned with Russia when they form that great army coming out of the northern quarters upon Israel. It's easy to see that alignment today - for Russia is allies with Libya, Persia (Iran, Syria, Iraq), Ethiopia (Sudan south of Ethiopia used to be part of Ethiopia), Gomer (areas of Armenia, Georgia, old Soviet satellites). Only Togarmah (Turkey) is still a holdout today.

As the purpose for Satan's one-world government beast kingdom is to try and takeover the lands God has ordained for His people, they also have the strategy to destroy God's people off this earth once and for all. Some of us are going to be delivered up during the coming tribulation to give a Testimony for Christ against them by The Holy Spirit. The nations are going to hear that Testimony, and many will be converted to Christ by it. It is going to serve as a spiritual sword against Satan's New World Order system, and make him very angry. That's when he will determine in final to completely destroy God's people off the earth, bringing that great army out of the northern quarters upon Israel. That's when Christ will come to end their aims of destruction, raining hail the size of anywhere between 70 - 120 lbs upon that great army. After that event, Israel will be burying their dead bones for 7 years after that event (see Ezek.38-39).

 

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Thus Says The Lord to the United States, and to All the Churches of Men Which Dwell Within Its Borders: Return to Me! Stand Up or Bow Down!... Call Out, Cry and Wail!
11/28/07 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Son of men, prophesy; prophesy and speak against your nation all My words... Timothy, lift up your voice and prophesy! Give unto them My word, even to all the churches of men contained within its borders; speak My words against them, even in all manner of speaking and devices, says The Lord.


Hear the Word of The Lord!...


Hear The Word of The Most High:

The time has come!...

REPENT!



The Lord has spoken.

If anyone wants to see a good example of electronic blaspheme, this is it. I edited the first post in this thread purely for illustrative purposes. To enjoy the entire rant you'll have to toddle back to the beginning and read it again for the first time.

Apart from the liberal use of four letter words, the definition of blasphemy also refers to the Biblical "crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God."(*)

Is a rant the same thing as the Word of God? Preachers in church seem to think so. Authors of end times adventure novels seem to think so. In fact, everybody thinks so. Just stamp "thus says..." somewhere in your text and you've stolen a little bit of divine authority for yourself.

Oddly I find myself in agreement with almost everything Mr. Hughes writes in his lead post. I just disagree with the authority he quotes "thus says...".

May I suggest something more literal and human such as quotes from works of literature, news stories, statistics and yes even a verse or two from the Grand Book that has been presented to us all. When quoting authority to support an assertion its considered good form to give credit where its due. Personal revelations do not qualify as authority, the only exception being a witness story. "God save me from drugs" or "The Lord saved me from a terrible accident", sort of thing.

What is God really saying to the United States and to the institutional church these days? Little or nothing. Read the book of Amos and get back to me on this. The western nations are now suffering a famine, not of food and drink but of the Word of God.

Our shepards, once devoted men of God who concerned themselves with delivering the gospel of Christ to the masses and speaking against political abuses, are now nothing more than children of Sodom and Ichabod pretentiously assuming the robes of holiness to pander their wickedness to any who will swallow it.

"This says..." isn't heard around here any more and there's a reason for that. Nobody wants to listen to anything except sensationalism. Self-restraint and consideration of one's fellow man are passé. There is no "thus says...". There is only silence.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft.....

(*) Online dictionary

 

[Saint]

Well I for one have not given up on this nation; I pray for it and our leadership ongoing. I see no scriptural evidence that foretells the destruction of the U.S.; in fact I see much evidences that this nation just might be a tool of Yahweh to bring punishment against Gog on that finial day.

You know many in Israel today say that the United States is in fact the "New Israel" and I agree with Veteran; there are far more children of the tribes of Jacob in this country than exist in Israel today.

The simple fact is that we are not told the will of Yahweh regarding this matter and anything we think or say about it is only speculation.

We do know this; Yahweh has a plan and that is to let things develop and at the end He will bring all the tribes of Islam to a central point and destroy them upon the return of Yeshua...that's good enough for me.

In Yeshua Messiah,

Bob

 

[dragonfly]

Hello [email protected],

Just stamp "thus says..." somewhere in your text and you've stolen a little bit of divine authority for yourself.

I disagree, because of the many times this appears in scripture, and I guess you're not accusing Noah, Moses, Isaiah and the other great prophets of scripture of stealing divine authority for themselves. Most of them would have said nothing, had not God Himself caused them to speak. It's precisely because of the kind of comment you are making, that it's a very lonely place to be a prophet - in any generation. If you are a brother in the Lord, you might consider that, rather than aligning yourself with those who mock God's word to His people, and, the appearance of distrust of His faithfulness to us.

(*) Online dictionary

A Bible dictionary is a better place from which to determine the spirit of God's word.

Oddly I find myself in agreement with almost everything Mr. Hughes writes in his lead post. I just disagree with the authority he quotes "thus says...".

Does this mean you take from yourself the authority to 'agree' with Mr Hughes - rather than from God? In view of the Bible's accounts of those who brought their own ideas to the people, claiming them to be from God, is this wise? Does this make you a false prophet? I mean, at least Mr Hughes is claiming to have heard from God, which is a normal thing for a Christian to do. But have you, when you agree with him?

What is God really saying to the United States and to the institutional church these days? Little or nothing.

You can't be listening to the people who are hearing from God and relaying His word to the US. There are more than a few.

Hi veteran,

Lots to think about in your post. Here are my initial reactions. I'm open to further discussion, of course, .

All nations are going to go under the "one world government" structure by Satan's servants, because God has ordained that to happen. That does not mean the nations Christ first established in The Gospel will be destroyed by that. They can change the color of the flag, move the captiol, call it something else, but that won't destroy God's people which God gave it to.

I agree that it won't destroy God's people, but I put it to you that when God announced His gift to Israel at Sinai, He reminded them that 'all the earth is Mine'. To me, this is, ultimately, the only way to understand Israel (God prevails) in the resurrection. Yes, there will be nations, but, the earth will still be all His. Psa 24:1. There was a lot of subterfuge going on behind the overt establishment of the US 'under God'. Really, unless 'the people' are 'under God', any government as their representatives, is likely to reflect those who voted for them, as in Jeremiah 5:31. It's the same in the UK. That said, of course God is allowing us all to reap what we have sown, whether personally or politically. Jeremiah 2:19

One of the ways to know this is by understanding about the Gog-Magog armies that will come out of the northern quarters upon Israel on the last day of this present world (Ezekiel 38 - 39). The nation alignment of Ezek.38 is almost complete today, with only Turkey as a hold out. That's why I say watch Turkey today.

Many have not considered just who all that Israel of Ezekiel 38 includes today, and where. There's two Israel's today under God, one in the middleast and the other is made up of the "multitude of nations" under Ephraim in the Christian West. That's why the western Christian nations have been under attack by Satan's host, targeted for takeover like the middleast nation of Israel that's already fallen and prepared for the coming of the Antichrist.

Ever since the U.S. bought the territory of Alaska from Russia in 1867 for 7.2 million dollars (called Seward's folly), Russia has been wanting it back. Alaska has produced many natural resources for the U.S. since it was acquired. For the past couple of decades Russia has built Bear bomber bases on their eastern borders near Alaska. And it's only a little hop, skip and a jump across the Beiring Straits out of the north to invade Alaska and come downwards through Canada.

How do you read Turkey's desire to join the EU?

One source of confusion at the moment, is the Protestantisation of the jargon being used by the Roman church, so that those seeking a real relationship with God (esp for the first time), would find it impossible to tell the difference. I am amazed at how silky and deceiving it is, even with enough spiritual understanding to know there is a difference in spirit, and to be ware, their persuasiveness is almost hypnotic.

If you are pulling the whole of the Christian west under Ephraim (rather than Ephraim being the British commonwealth, with the US/North America being Manasseh), where do place Manasseh, today, I wonder? (I just wonder if you've thought about that?)

That's very interesting about Alaska, especially because HAARP is situated there - although I understand Russia has its own version, and other countries may also. Russia does look very close to Alaska on a world map! Are you aware of the North American Highway which is being built from Canada to Mexico? The planning of this seems to have been remarkably unpublicised for such a huge project, wouldn't you say? It certainly fits with a longterm plan such as the powers of darkness have been hatching up for centuries.

 

[veteran]

Hi veteran,

Lots to think about in your post. Here are my initial reactions. I'm open to further discussion, of course, .


I agree that it won't destroy God's people, but I put it to you that when God announced His gift to Israel at Sinai, He reminded them that 'all the earth is Mine'. To me, this is, ultimately, the only way to understand Israel (God prevails) in the resurrection. Yes, there will be nations, but, the earth will still be all His. Psa 24:1. There was a lot of subterfuge going on behind the overt establishment of the US 'under God'. Really, unless 'the people' are 'under God', any government as their representatives, is likely to reflect those who voted for them, as in Jeremiah 5:31. It's the same in the UK. That said, of course God is allowing us all to reap what we have sown, whether personally or politically. Jeremiah 2:19

There's more to the establishing of the U.S. as a Christian nation than just political theory. Same goes for the establishing of all the Christian nations of history. It happened per God's Plan, and He actually did reveal it in His Word with the "multitude of nations" prophecy that Ephraim would become. There's always been a remnant established by God who knew this, just as there's a remnant today that continue to understand it. So those trying to keep it battened down in the realm of man's political theory are far off the target to understand it.

How do you read Turkey's desire to join the EU?

Turkey is still a primarily Muslim nation. One can see how Soviet and Chinese Communism had failed to remove Christianity in their nations. Likewise with trying to remove Islamic belief from Turkey to end links to Islam in other Islamic nations, it's not going to work. Could be part of the iron mixed with clay meaning. They just ain't gonna' mix.

One source of confusion at the moment, is the Protestantisation of the jargon being used by the Roman church, so that those seeking a real relationship with God (esp for the first time), would find it impossible to tell the difference. I am amazed at how silky and deceiving it is, even with enough spiritual understanding to know there is a difference in spirit, and to be ware, their persuasiveness is almost hypnotic.

Not really aware of what movement you speak of. Best to stay with God's Word and let denominations play their games if that's what they want to do. The Roman Church won't hinder God's elect.

The body of the "house of Israel" is under Ephraim per God's Word. It's not just about the British commonwealth only, but all the historical Christian nations where the majority of Israelites migrated to after their Assyrian captivity. The U.S. represents Manasseh, his brother, technically the 13th tribe. God through Jacob said Manasseh would also be 'great'.

Jerome Corsi through the Freedom of Information Act got details of the departments already established under the radar within the U.S. gov. to establish the North American Security and Prosperity Partnership. What was it that Apostle Paul said when sudden destruction will come upon 'them'? When they start saying, "Peace and safety"? (1 Thess.5). One would have to be very asleep to not notice in what times we're in today.

 

[Saint]

The Mahdi will hate non Islamic Russia the same as he will hate all other nations who will not bow to Allah. Russia is moving towards Islam but is still several years away. Some how I don't think Putin will bow to any god but on the other hand how can we know his heart?

In Yeshua Messiah,

Bob

I'm glad to see people who understand who the beast is and where he originates.