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Featured Prophecy Alert!! Don't be Left Behind!!

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  1. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Active Member

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    Do they pay you well to preach your pre trib rapture?
     
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    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Jesus will return for those looking for Him. Those not looking for the rapture are left behind!!

    Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
     
  4. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Active Member

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    Actually Jesus said thosr looking for him will,be left behind.

    Matthew 24:38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.
    Matthew 24:39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man.
    Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
    Matthew 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
    Matthew 24:42 Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.

    But you dont believe Jesus or you justcant understand simple scripture.
    You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

    I will leave you to decieve who you may.
     
  5. GISMYS_7

    GISMYS_7 Well-Known Member

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    Bottomline== Do you believe God's Word?? Will you be caught up or left behind on rapture day?? == Your choice!
     
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    'Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
    For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
    When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with Him in glory.
    Mortify
    (or reckon as dead) therefore your members which are upon the earth;
    fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection,
    evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

    For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: ... ... '
    (Colossians 3:2-6)

    Hello there,

    I praise God that when Christ Jesus our living Saviour, Lord and Head appears in glory, that the members of the Church which is His Body,( the fullness of Him 'that filleth all in all' ) will appear with Him there. They will not hear a trumpet blast, or the voice of the archangel (1 Corinthians 15:52 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16), for this is not the hope expressed in either of those references: but a prior hope, which goes back to before the foundation of the world, in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    It is the believing of Israel at the time of the end, who will have the joy of hearing that trumpet blast, and the voice of the archangel, not the Church which is the Body of Christ, for they will have already appeared with their Lord in glory, prior to His coming.

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris

    (See Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon)

    'For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
    Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
    we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

    Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing
    of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

    Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity,
    and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
    These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority.
    Let no man despise thee.'

    (Titus 2:11-15)
     
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    Amen
     
  8. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Uh, no you don't! Because you abuse... The Word of God, saying it says this and this, when it does not! And you will pay for doing that too, so I hope you enjoy all the money you raise for pushing a false pre-trib rapture theory of man. When my Lord Jesus returns, you will find yourself rejected by Him if you don't repent.
     
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    That isn't a pre-trib rapture. There is NOTHING written there saying that is going to happen prior to the great tribulation.

    And you can't even do basic reading comprehension, since the 16th verse shows Jesus will DESCEND from heaven to the earth. Zechariah 14 shows exactly where He is going to DESCEND to, i.e., Jerusalem on earth at the Mount of Olives, exactly where He ASCENDED to Heaven from per Acts 1.
     
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    Again and again the catching up of believers(rapture) into the clouds to be with God is NOT the same event as the return of Jesus with those raptured believers to earth to destroy evil and set up His kingdom.
     
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    The "caught up" event of 1 Thess.4 definitely IS... the same event of Christ's 2nd coming on "the day of the Lord", which is the timing of Zechariah 14 about His return. And it's easy to know that too...

    1 Thess 4:14-17
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him.


    Jesus will bring the 'asleep' saints with Him when He comes. That is about the resurrection, which happens on the last day of this present world.


    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    The actual word for "prevent" there in the Greek means to 'precede, or go beforehand'. Those of us alive who remain on the earth will not... precede those alseep saints. It means they will be resurrected first and be gathered by Jesus first when He comes.

    The resurrection of Christ's Church will happen on the last day of this world, as written (John 6:39-54; John 11:24; 1 Cor.15).


    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    And there it is, "the dead in Christ shall rise first". That's the asleep saints Jesus will bring with Him as He DESCENDS from heaven.


    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    KJV



    Just like you don't isolate electronic components that make up a radio and still expect it to work, nor do you isolate the 1 Thess.4 Chapter from the rest of God's Word like man's pre-trib doctrine tries to do. The Acts 1 Scripture declared how Jesus ASCENDED to Heaven and where from, and also declared how He will DESCEND from heaven when He comes, and where to. And that is exactly the timing Apostle Paul is covering there in 1 Thess.4, the last day of this world when the resurrection of the dead will happen.
     
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    Stay in the dark fog of ignorance if you like!! no skin off my nose!!!
     
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    I'm not the one being misled here.

    It's obvious to me now, after reading many of your posts, that you are not interested in what God's Word actually teaches as written, but you instead are bent on pushing a doctrine of men at the expense of sound reasoning in God's Holy Writ, and do not care if the doctrine you follow is adding and taking away from The Word of God. You reveal your motive is more political and aligned with spiritual darkness instead of with Christ's Salvation per His Word.
     
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    Are you sleeping or Looking Up??===Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

    Luke 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

    Luke 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

    Luke 21:28 And """when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh"""

    Luke 21:29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

    Luke 21:30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

    Luke 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

    Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.===What generation? Answer= the generation that sees all the signs!! We are that last generation, are you ready to meet Jesus in the clouds on the very very near rapture day??
    Prophecy Alert: "Don't Be Left Behind"
     
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    I wish you understood what you quote, instead of listening to pre-trib doctors who use scare tactics to draw people to their doctrines of men.

    The following Mark 13:8 verse about nation against nation, earthquakes, etc., is to happen PRIOR to the time of great tribulation. So also are those wars for a time PRIOR to the start of the great tribulation. He said when those wars happen don't be troubled, because the end is NOT YET. What end? The tribulation He was talking about there in Matt.24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.

    Mark 13:7-8
    7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
    8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
    KJV



    What is the OPPOSITE of a time of war??


    1 Thess 5:2-4
    2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
    3 For when they shall say, "Peace and safety"; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
    KJV


    It's when the wicked and deceived start saying, "Peace and safety" is when Paul showed us to be on watch for Christ's coming to gather us. That AIN'T... A TIME OF WAR. It's a time of WORLD PEACE. That is the kind of time the coming tribulation is going to be like! It is how many will be deceived.

    And YOU have been well prepared to fall into that... deception... by those you listen to, because they say it's going to be a time of all out chaos, WWIII, major earthquakes and storms, just like the video caption you posted. They already have you in their trap, and it's no one's fault but your own because of listening to men's doctrines instead of our Lord Jesus in His Word.
     
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    Yes!!! There could be a war in the mid-east any day (Psalm 83 war) WW111 before the great tribulation and Armageddon war that Jesus (with us raptured believers) returns to stop and all evil is defeated and He sets up His kingdom.
     
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    You just haven't paid attention. Armageddon is what ends... the time of great tribulation (Rev.16:15-17). And that 7th Vial is when Jesus returns to gather His Church, as He showed right there that He comes "as a thief" at that point in time.
     
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    Luke 21:36 Jesus tells believers ==Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
    1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

    9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

    10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
    Those that want to argue and fight against the rapture can pray that they be left behind!!! But why do that??

    Read and believe God's Word on the catching up (rapture)!!

    1Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep(died), that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

    1Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    1Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    1Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain """"shall be caught up"""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    1Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.===============Caught up IS the rapture!! PTL.
     
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    I pray throughout the day most days now - we're seeing an explosion of evil. Every day there seems to be a new level of depravity reached. I think that most of us today can identify with Lot or Habakuk.
     
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    Oh? And, can you show me where, exactly, it says this in scripture? Please do....I'd truly like to see these scriptures, showing the difference between the coming of Christ in the Rapture and the second coming.
    Cause it seems to me that every passage and verse that speaks of Christ's return doesn't specify '1st' or '2nd'...it just speaks 'of that day' or 'when he comes'. Which would mean...wouldn't it, that a person's assumption would have to insert an understanding INTO those verses to make them mean '1st' and '2nd'. Because if they don't SAY it....and they don't....then that leaves you with a whole lot of explaining to do....
     
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