Protection From False Prophets

[Davy]

Stay in God's Word as written. That is always what it comes down to.

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

One of the saddest workings today in some pulpits is just that, using a single verse to push a leaven doctrine from men.

Is it not OK to teach single verses about a certain Bible topic?

Yeah, it is OK IF... it keeps with the subject flow of the Bible Chapter where it appears. How you gonna' know whether the one teaching is doing that or not?

Simple, read and study the whole Chapter where the verse appears. After staying in the 'flow' of the Chapter, you'll know soon enough if the teacher is sticking to the Bible Chapter or instead pushing some made up dissertation they 'think' Jesus gave them authority to create out of thin air.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Stay in God's Word as written. That is always what it comes down to.

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

One of the saddest workings today in some pulpits is just that, using a single verse to push a leaven doctrine from men.

Is it not OK to teach single verses about a certain Bible topic?

Yeah, it is OK IF... it keeps with the subject flow of the Bible Chapter where it appears. How you gonna' know whether the one teaching is doing that or not?

Simple, read and study the whole Chapter where the verse appears. After staying in the 'flow' of the Chapter, you'll know soon enough if the teacher is sticking to the Bible Chapter or instead pushing some made up dissertation they 'think' Jesus gave them authority to create out of thin air.

Well you need to include false apostles, false teachers, false witnesses, false doctrines...as your thread title only mentions false prophets I just wanted to include the rest of the false gang.
How familiar are you with what a religious spirit is? You see it in action in many congregations and individuals of the Christian Faith.
I will start a thread on it.

 

[Behold]

Stay in God's Word as written.

That wont protect you, as you have to know where you LOOK. and moreso, you have to be born again, and then you have to learn how to do what this verse tells you do. And to do that verse, you have to sit at the feet of Paul's Epistles, or listen to someone who has.
There is no other way.

Hebrews 13:9

Here is how you detect a deceived believer, or a religious (fake christian) person, in SECONDS.

ONE thing. = "Do they understand the CROSS"... "Do they understand Jesus as their ETERNAL Salvation".
If they dont, then that is why they never Post or Thread about Jesus or the Cross.
They might mention them.....on their way to talk about how you can lose your salvation.
They might mention them, on their way to their 40 Threads that tell you that you that you have to keep commandments and do good works IF you want to go to heaven.
SEE, they have no CORE SALVATION that is only found in the BLOOD OF JESUS, as "the gift of Salvation" in their TEACHING.
They have no connection to "THe Gospel of the GRACE of God".
It is a foreign language to these deceivers.....these FAKIRS.

Listen.... what you dont have by experience, you can't teach in TRUTH., and that is why they dont, cant, wont, .ever talk about The Cross or being Born AGAIN.
How can they?
Its not them.

Ask one of these deceived fakirs to explain, John 14:6, and watch them drown and flail about works, and "gates" and "branches being burned" and "enduring to the end"., and "water baptism"...and eating a cookie and having some juice"..

And reader, you can find this out by noticing how they TEACH their idea of being saved and staying saved as i just showed you how to SEE THEM.
Its possible that they will read my Threads about "spotting the Heretic" and try to FAKE IT...but they can't fake it long, as you can't fake born again. The pretense will show up in their teaching as ....>"what i have to do do do do do "..
See that?
That is SELF SAVING ......that is not Salvation they are teaching, or believing.
There is no true faith in Christ, as proven by their..>"me me me me, what im doing to try to go to heaven' JUNK< DECEIVED, TEACHING.

Learn to HEAR THEM, and then they can't deceive you anymore.

 

[Davy]

Well you need to include false apostles, false teachers, false witnesses, false doctrines...as your thread title only mentions false prophets I just wanted to include the rest of the false gang.
How familiar are you with what a religious spirit is? You see it in action in many congregations and individuals of the Christian Faith.
I will start a thread on it.

I realize there are workings like a 'familiar spirit' as written of in The Old Testament especially, and an "evil spirit" that spoke to Lord Jesus, and even how God at times used them against the rebellious (Judges 9:23).

 

[Davy]

STAY in God's Word brethren. THAT WILL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU. How?

By staying in God's Word, disciplining yourself in it, asking God for understanding through His Son Jesus Christ, He will then open up your mind by The Holy Spirit.

God's Word is the MEASURE of all things.

Many go around in the world today not knowing left from right simply because they trying to use the 'world' as their measure for how to think, how to act, how to live. And the world is NOT built upon Truth like God's Word is! This is why following what the world says will fail you.

Like Jesus said, if you stay in His Word, then you will become His disciples, and the Truth will set you free! Free physically? No, free spiritually and mentally! You will then know what the TRUE MEASURE of all things is!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Well you’ll find plenty of falsehoods on this forum. Be prepared.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I realize there are workings like a 'familiar spirit' as written of in The Old Testament especially, and an "evil spirit" that spoke to Lord Jesus, and even how God at times used them against the rebellious (Judges 9:23).

A religious spirit is one that deceives the church to the point that they are defending their doctrine more than they defend the truth of Jesus Christ. They have become blind to the truth.
And hypocrisy is one of their main flaws.

 

[Behold]

A religious spirit is one that deceives the church to the point that they are defending their doctrine more than they defend the truth of Jesus Christ. They have become blind to the truth.
And hypocrisy is one of their main flaws.

An example of what is being defended that is a CULT work?

Noone can join the Mormon Church, unless you agree that "the book of mormon" "is scripture" "equal to the Bible".
You can go to services, and you can enjoy the music... but you can't Join the "Mormon Church", by being water baptized INTO IT, unless you agree that the "book of Mormon" is "equal to the bible", both being "Scripture"

Reader....You can ask JaneDoe about that, as she will certify it as truth.

 

[Davy]

A religious spirit is one that deceives the church to the point that they are defending their doctrine more than they defend the truth of Jesus Christ. They have become blind to the truth.
And hypocrisy is one of their main flaws.

One who believes that might as well scrap a good portion of the New Testament writings then, because Lord Jesus and His Apostles gave warnings against His enemies a lot.

 

[Behold]

One who believes that might as well scrap a good portion of the New Testament writings then, because Lord Jesus and His Apostles gave warnings against His enemies a lot.

Paul defines the Heretic in the NT.
He says they are "enemies of the Cross".
And what is that?
That is any one, or any church, or any denomination that says that you must do something, other then BELIEVE IN Jesus, and be born again, to go to heaven.
They also teach that you can lose your salvation. And that is to teach that you have rejected Christ's finished sacrifice, that is "The Gift of Salvation",.. which is to teach and preach that you can get rid of God, once God has saved you.
Its also to teach that Christ lied when He said He would never leave you or forsake you.
And its to teach that Christ lied when He said you will (the born again) never perish.
Its also to teach that God lied, when He said He would be faithful to complete your salvation".
Philippians 1:6

See, when you teach that you can lose your Salvation....and Jesus is Salvation, then you are teaching, preaching, that you can Get Rid of what Christ has Done, that God has accepted, to accept you.
That is a denial of the Cross as the Power of the Blood of Jesus that is an eternal sacrifice, for all sin.
And that makes you an enemy of God, and of the Cross, as they are one and the same enemy.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

An example of what is being defended that is a CULT work?

Noone can join the Mormon Church, unless you agree that "the book of mormon" "is scripture" "equal to the Bible".
You can go to services, and you can enjoy the music... but you can't Join the "Mormon Church", by being water baptized INTO IT, unless you agree that the "book of Mormon" is "equal to the bible", both being "Scripture"

Reader....You can ask JaneDoe about that, as she will certify it as truth.

That’s actually inaccurate, for the reasons we’ve gone over and you’ve ignored my explanations.

 

[Behold]

That’s actually inaccurate, for the reasons we’ve gone over and you’ve ignored my explanations.

I got the information from you, that i posted.

You stated to me, personally, that to be "baptized into the mormon Church", you have to believe that the Book Of Mormon, is """equal to the bible, as Scripture."

I asked you this more than once, so that you would confirm it more than once.

Are you now saying that any person can JOIN the Mormon Church, as a CHURCH MEMBER, who does not AGREE, that the book of Mormon is "scripture", equal to the bible?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Stay in God's Word as written. That is always what it comes down to.

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

One of the saddest workings today in some pulpits is just that, using a single verse to push a leaven doctrine from men.

Is it not OK to teach single verses about a certain Bible topic?

Yeah, it is OK IF... it keeps with the subject flow of the Bible Chapter where it appears. How you gonna' know whether the one teaching is doing that or not?

Simple, read and study the whole Chapter where the verse appears. After staying in the 'flow' of the Chapter, you'll know soon enough if the teacher is sticking to the Bible Chapter or instead pushing some made up dissertation they 'think' Jesus gave them authority to create out of thin air.

The bible describes false prophets as denying the Christ. Perhaps we should leave it with what the bible teaches.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I got the information from you, that i posted.

You stated to me, personally, that to be "baptized into the mormon Church", you have to believe that the Book Of Mormon, is """equal to the bible, as Scripture."

I asked you this more than once, so that you would confirm it more than once.

Are you now saying that any person can JOIN the Mormon Church, as a CHURCH MEMBER, who does not AGREE, that the book of Mormon is "scripture", equal to the bible?

Once again, you are ignoring the whole part before then when a person becomes a Christian because they have faith in Christ.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Well you’ll find plenty of falsehoods on this forum. Be prepared.

Yeah that's what I was thinking

 

[Behold]

Once again, you are ignoring the whole part before then when a person becomes a Christian because they have faith in Christ.

"""""How to become a Christian""" that you are trying to discuss...., is not related to my post that explains that you can't become a MORMON Church member, baptized into the Mormon Church, unless you agree/believe that the Book of Mormon is Scripture, exactly as the Bible is Scritpure.

So, try to stay on topic, as you are not being asked anything about becoming a Christian.
Therefore, dont dodge and try to avoid the topic.
As when you do that, Jane_Doe people here quickly realize you are not being honest and are trying to deceive.

Now, it could be, that you are trying to explain that to become a Christian, is to become a Mormon.
But till you have defined that as true, then just stay on the topic at hand, which is about believing the BOM< is SCRIPTURE< equal to the BIBLE.

Here is another Mormon's answer, that i just read.

""The minimal requirement to become a Mormon in every Mormon sect is to believe that the Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet. You may believe that Joseph Smith was a “fallen prophet” who later fell into apostasy as some sects claim (though you would still need to believe he was, prior to his alleged apostasy, a prophet and the Book of Mormon is true); and this would be the closest you could get to being still Mormon while doubting Joseph Smith's credibility. Otherwise, you must accept his Prophet-hood completely."""""

 

[lforrest]

You need to first know the Truth, and be watchful for those who contradict it. "Did God really say?" so the serpent told. Know your bible, know who you are in Christ. Do not be decieved by human arguements.

Behind every false prophet is one or more evil spirits. You can know them because they do not acknowledge that Jesus is Lord. They may not say as much, but by their doctrines they mean it. These accomplish the will of their father to kill, steal and destroy.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Stay in God's Word as written. That is always what it comes down to.

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

One of the saddest workings today in some pulpits is just that, using a single verse to push a leaven doctrine from men.

Is it not OK to teach single verses about a certain Bible topic?

Yeah, it is OK IF... it keeps with the subject flow of the Bible Chapter where it appears. How you gonna' know whether the one teaching is doing that or not?

Simple, read and study the whole Chapter where the verse appears. After staying in the 'flow' of the Chapter, you'll know soon enough if the teacher is sticking to the Bible Chapter or instead pushing some made up dissertation they 'think' Jesus gave them authority to create out of thin air.

I clicked on this thread expecting to disagree with you, since there's lots of false prophet bashing these days being bantered around that throws the baby out with the bathwater, unfortunately. But I have to say I agree with this post, particularly when it comes to teachers of the word. True teachers of the Lord are very good with context. The genuine prophets I've studied have also tended to be surprisingly solid in their theology, so I think the principle likely applies across the board concerning the true servants of God. They know the word accurately, which the Spirit can then confirm through signs and wonders following.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

"""""How to become a Christian""" that you are trying to discuss...., is not related to my post that explains that you can't become a MORMON Church member, baptized into the Mormon Church, unless you agree/believe that the Book of Mormon is Scripture, exactly as the Bible is Scritpure.

So, try to stay on topic, as you are not being asked anything about becoming a Christian.
Therefore, dont dodge and try to avoid the topic.
As when you do that, Jane_Doe people here quickly realize you are not being honest and are trying to deceive.

Now, it could be, that you are trying to explain that to become a Christian, is to become a Mormon.
But till you have defined that as true, then just stay on the topic at hand, which is about believing the BOM< is SCRIPTURE< equal to the BIBLE.

Here is another Mormon's answer, that i just read.

""The minimal requirement to become a Mormon in every Mormon sect is to believe that the Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet. You may believe that Joseph Smith was a “fallen prophet” who later fell into apostasy as some sects claim (though you would still need to believe he was, prior to his alleged apostasy, a prophet and the Book of Mormon is true); and this would be the closest you could get to being still Mormon while doubting Joseph Smith's credibility. Otherwise, you must accept his Prophet-hood completely."""""

Pardon me, I thought this thread was about a how a Christian should avoid false prophets. I'm sorry that my post talking about becoming a Christian and having faith in Him is deemed "off topic" by you and instead you attack my character. *rolls eyes*

 

[Hidden In Him]

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

In fact, let me go a little further here, and some may not like me saying this, but it has been on my mind for awhile now.

We have a lot of Jehovahs Witnesses in our community these days, and the doctrines they teach often involve very technical debates where the interpretations can go "either way," with support on either side from a purely debaters point of view. But if you'll notice, everyone who moves in genuine supernatural gifts in this community is actually Trinitarian. Why is that? It's because the Spirit of God moves to confirm NT doctrine as it was handed down by the early church. It was true for the New Testament saints then, and it is still true now.

Can true doctrine still be confirmed strictly through the word, i.e. without the gifts needing to be in manifestation? Yes. The following is a case in point for how context can often be a telling factor, as I posted about an hour or so ago:
Revelation 22:13 What does it mean?

But even then, an honest theologian has to admit that purely from the standpoint of the written word alone, there are numerous passages that can be interpreted either way. So what often confirms what is true doctrine and what is not is the Spirit of God in manifestation, and this will likely be increasingly true as we move deeper into the end-times.

God bless,
- H