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I agree with you, cameras are a half measure. What we really need, I think, are strong PTA's, where parents, not the state, not staff, parents approve or reject the textbooks and curriculum. And teachers who aren't on board are tossed out.
The government will never be a good substitute for the care of loving, responsible parents.

I used to want to be a public school teacher. I am glad I didn't go that route. My desire to nurture, I believe now, was misled. Teachers cannot do what parents can do unless they sacrifice everything beyond what is required.

So instead of me either being a poor parent substitute in a questionable education system or sacrificing my health, I have opted to simply invest in my own children.
 

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The government will never be a good substitute for the care of loving, responsible parents.

I used to want to be a public school teacher. I am glad I didn't go that route. My desire to nurture, I believe now, was misled. Teachers cannot do what parents can do unless they sacrifice everything beyond what is required.

So instead of me either being a poor parent substitute in a questionable education system or sacrificing my health, I have opted to simply invest in my own children.
I worked 3rd shift for years so I could personally drive mine to a good Christian school and still ended up having to homeschool them. My daughter needed concentrated effort that a traditional classroom setting just would not afford. There were times when it seemed like we were trying to cross the Pacific in a little rowboat but it paid off big.

You hang in there, Sis. :dusted:
 

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The government will never be a good substitute for the care of loving, responsible parents.

I used to want to be a public school teacher. I am glad I didn't go that route. My desire to nurture, I believe now, was misled. Teachers cannot do what parents can do unless they sacrifice everything beyond what is required.

So instead of me either being a poor parent substitute in a questionable education system or sacrificing my health, I have opted to simply invest in my own children.
My wife was a classroom aide for 22 years, the last several leaving her heartsick daily for what the Department of Education, all the way down to the classroom teachers, were doing to those children. And she was not allowed to teach, literally not allowed.

My firm conviction is that the Department of Education is committed to the destruction of children, and that the public schools have been co-opted towards that purpose.

The leftist culture we see in government now was present in the schools for a long time!

I'm glad your children will have you!!

Much love!
 

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My daughter is a supervisor in a brand new hospital's ICU and my son is a graphic design contractor. The biggest advantage they had was learning to avoid peer dependence and groupthink like the Plague.
 
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My wife was a classroom aide for 22 years, the last several leaving her heartsick daily for what the Department of Education, all the way down to the classroom teachers, were doing to those children. And she was not allowed to teach, literally not allowed.

My firm conviction is that the Department of Education is committed to the destruction of children, and that the public schools have been co-opted towards that purpose.

The leftist culture we see in government now was present in the schools for a long time!

I'm glad your children will have you!!

Much love!
Depending on one's level in the hierarchy I'd say most are more resigned than committed.

Hi Marksy!! :waves:
 
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My wife was a classroom aide for 22 years, the last several leaving her heartsick daily for what the Department of Education, all the way down to the classroom teachers, were doing to those children. And she was not allowed to teach, literally not allowed.

My firm conviction is that the Department of Education is committed to the destruction of children, and that the public schools have been co-opted towards that purpose.

The leftist culture we see in government now was present in the schools for a long time!

I'm glad your children will have you!!

Much love!
I believe you, @marks .It's such an odd mix of feelings when I think of educators now. I respect so much those that are trying to do right by the students. But it's as if they are in a losing battle from the beginning.

They are taking on an unfixable burden.
 
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I believe you, @marks .It's such an odd mix of feeling ls when I think of educators now. I respect so much those that are trying to do right by the students. But it's as if they are in a losing battle from the beginning.

They are taking on an unfixable burden.
I hope there are more good ones than it seems to me!! I just get outraged when I think of what they are doing to these precious children! My blood boils!! I can . . . scratch that . . . I cannot imagine how God feels about that! But if these people were smart . . . I could make a fortune selling millstones, with ropes attached.

Much love!
 

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I hope there are more good ones than it seems to me!! I just get outraged when I think of what they are doing to these precious children! My blood boils!! I can . . . scratch that . . . I cannot imagine how God feels about that! But if these people were smart . . . I could make a fortune selling millstones, with ropes attached.

Much love!
You expressing that anger with the Much love! signature at the end?

Forum gold!!

I was raised in public school. I had a good time but I was like a cheerio in the liberal alphabet soup. It's interesting that I turned out as conservative as I am despite that environment.

I don't know about cameras but parents should definitely know all about what is being taught!
 

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You expressing that anger with the Much love! signature at the end?

Forum gold!!

I was raised in public school. I had a good time but I was like a cheerio in the liberal alphabet soup. It's interesting that I turned out as conservative as I am despite that environment.

I don't know about cameras but parents should definitely know all about what is being taught!
I was in public school all but 2 years in private Christian schools. Those 2 years were the best schooling I received by a huge margin!

Much love!
 

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What was the private Christian school like?
I went to 2. The first was modelled after a regular school, grade divisions, classrooms, and such. But there was personal attention, so that as a freshman, I was allowed in the seniors-only Nuclear Chemistry class. And a couple of other student and I were allowed to form a study group to learn pre-algebra self taught from a Geometry review book, 2 grades higher then we were. We covered about a year and a half of the material.

These things were able to happen because the principal personally knew me sufficiently to make these kinds of decisions.

My next year was a different school, very small, and we all worked in self-taught workbooks, each in our given cubicle. I covered from 1.5 to 2 years worth of material.

My next school was public high school, and they didn't have my transcripts, so I had to repeat it all. Then the next year, a different school, and they didn't get my transcripts, and I had to repeat is all again.

Much love!
 

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From the OP:
I think all public school classes and private meetings between students and staffs should be on video UNEDITED and all parents should have full access.

What think ye?
The very existence of state schools is immoral, regardless of the level of "morality" contained in them.

People don’t like to hear this, because it means they would be 100% accountable for their child’s failure and/or success. It means they could no longer consider themselves virtual DINKs (Double Income No Kids) as when they handed their child off to the world for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, while the husband and wife likewise went out into the world chasing mammon. Let’s face it, most reading this post are in debt, living beyond their means (current US national debt per capita is $94,000).

Whose responsibility is it, to raise up Godly seed?

This is not about what you (or I) "prefer." This is about sanctification and separation; this is about being holy as he is holy. It's about walking the talk.

The responsibility of raising children lies with the father and mother of that child, and it is unscriptural to place that responsibility upon others, especially the soulless State:

Ephesians 6:4, "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord."

God commands the parents to raise their children, not ungodly strangers in some school run by Caesar. Do schools bring our children up in the fear and admonition of the Lord? On the contrary, they outlaw prayer from its schools, forbid the Ten Commandments from being taught, and in its place teach the false theory of evolution. Schools teach our children that they're beasts, and have evolved from some primordial ooze, to a sub-human creature, into the animal they now are. They are just one of the many kinds of animals inhabiting this little globe called earth. So we shouldn't be surprised when they behave like animals; children killing other children for tennis shoes or jackets, or because they believe they have been somehow wronged by their victims; stealing and killing for all kinds of selfish motivations; or, when these children turn into adults, using whatever means they can find to advance their careers, their "wants," not caring who they hurt in the process.

It requires a strong, perhaps tyrannical, government to control that kind of a population -- like the one currently fomenting in USA. Governments are always glad to oblige. Maybe that's why they don't like to see prayer and scripture reading in schools. Maybe that's why they insist that schools teach we are just another animal in the long chain of the evolutionary process. Maybe that's why Human Being is defined as "a monster" and as "resembling a lower animal," and a monster is defined as "a depraved person." Sinners are depraved, not the disciples of Christ. Maybe schools are creating these lawless creatures so that Caesar will acquire jurisdiction over them by teaching them the words of the world instead of the words of Christ?

We can play with statistics. We can make excuses for pursuing less-than-Godly “educational” agendas in the name of pleasing our children and/or ourselves. We can twist and violate scripture by borrowing money and living in debt bondage because we seek to justify our wants, rather than obey God’s commands.

Rather, touch not the unclean thing.

Wynona gets it: "So instead of me either being a poor parent substitute in a questionable education system or sacrificing my health, I have opted to simply invest in my own children."
 
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