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Ronald David Bruno

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This one captivated me, since I have found a slew of fake AI generated prophecies recently on YouTube. But I thought there must be a real true prophecy out there. This guy seems believable. We will certainly be able to verify his claim ... by this time next week
 

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You should not even entertain such things.

But you have no need to have anything written to you, brothers, about the times and dates when this will happen; 2because you yourselves well know that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 1 Thes 5:1

The Lord God will not give us any other warning that what He has already given us in the scriptures.
 

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This one captivated me, since I have found a slew of fake AI generated prophecies recently on YouTube. But I thought there must be a real true prophecy out there. This guy seems believable. We will certainly be able to verify his claim ... by this time next week
Won't happen. Just let's keep reading the scriptures and gain further understanding.
 

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You should not even entertain such things.

But you have no need to have anything written to you, brothers, about the times and dates when this will happen; 2because you yourselves well know that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 1 Thes 5:1

The Lord God will not give us any other warning that what He has already given us in the scriptures.
"But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief." 1 Thes. 5:4

Certain details about the epistles are actually written to those specific towns. In that generation, they certainly did not need times and dates.
 

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Won't happen. Just let's keep reading the scriptures and gain further understanding.
For those who are interested in His Second Coming and are anticipating it in our generation, Jesus gave us many signs to look for and so we are just trying to be observant. I am hopeful His return is soon. This prophecy would support a Pre-Trib view which is actually against my Mid-Trib view. But I would not be upset if I was wrong and would favor the Rapture in 4-5 days.
 

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For those who are interested in His Second Coming and are anticipating it in our generation, Jesus gave us many signs to look for and so we are just trying to be observant. I am hopeful His return is soon. This prophecy would support a Pre-Trib view which is actually against my Mid-Trib view. But I would not be upset if I was wrong and would favor the Rapture in 4-5 days.
Yes, it would great, but scripture appears to tell us differently, some of us anyway.
Many dont seem to understand there scriptures enough, and as a result are stuck on the common scriptures of rapture theory. Many you tube videos show them, choosing a new day every month in defiance of what the scripture says. Math 24.36. Often its a pretrib view about a seven year tribulation, when Dan 9.27 doesn't even mention the word tribulation. It makes it all a little obvious.
John 6.39,40,44,54.
 

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Rapture is on the Day Christ comes a second time, not years before that.

As He descends from Heaven coming on the clouds of heaven seated at the right hand of the Power, The Father.
God brings with Christ all those who died in the Lord up to till that 'Last Day' of this first earth.

The only secret thing about it is the exact day. God won't be telling anyone, as He said only He knows.
So why would God lie and then go tell a man what day is the rapture?

Jesus when on earth said the Son does not know but only the Father knows.

Matthew 12:39
But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Why do evil and adulterous people seeketh after a sign?
Cause they do not believe what God already said.

They keep looking for omens, portents, signs and God tells them He won't do it. So that leaves open the door for evil things to reveal signs.

We do have God's promise for His people alone that we will see somethings taking place before that Day.

When we see that then this

Matthew 24
23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.

26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The Parable of the Fig Tree​

32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that [e]it is near—at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

No One Knows the Day or Hour​

36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [f]heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what [g]hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what [h]hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

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People have created many fanciful elaborate doctrines, cleverly designed, about the last days.
His second coming is visible, not secret, not a secret rapture.

1 Thess 4

The Comfort of Christ’s Coming​

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

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And this coming is a time of apostasy, there the external church departs from the WORD to believe doctrines of devils
The genuine church who is elect, wont fall away into apostasy


2 Thessalonians 2
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The Great Apostasy

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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I have run into folks who claim this is not the return of Christ for the church on earth so this is for them.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:27, the same thing described as in Matthew 24:31, with the WORD showing the gathering is of the earth and heaven.
and v31 actually includes the earth when it says the four winds, is in reference to east, west, north south of the earth.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.
 

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Rapture is on the Day Christ comes a second time, not years before that.

Scripture teaches who came to Earth was The Son of man.. His Name JESUS.

While on the Earth it was revealed… He would be Called…numerous “things” Titles, Descriptions…

He would Leave Earth, return to Heaven.

He would Return to EARTH.

The clouds are NOT EARTH.

EARTH is Dry LAND.

The Lord descending From the High Heavens To the Lower Heavens IS NOT the “Return of the Son of man TO Earth”.

The Lord Descends from the high Heavens To the Lower Heavens TO Summon (call up To Him), living souls of Human men that which “have been” MADE “restored/saved”, By, Through, OF the Power of God, who IS Christ.

A restored Saved soul is NOT subject to the Tribulations and Wrath … fully intended to cause Suffering and Going to be sent down from Heaven upon the inhabitants upon the face of the Earth…

The second and last Great Tribulation (sent down from Heaven) is Similar to the First Great Tribulation.

In the First Trib., all those Faithful to God and His Word Were???
Lifted UP Above the Earth.. While men who remained ON Earth…were subject to being bodily killed.

In the Last Great Trib…. WHO is Angry and WHO has power and Authority To Exercise WRATH upon the humans Because of Their Anger?

The Lamb of God… angry men have Rejected Him?
Yes.
Has He authority and power to cause Wrath upon men upon the face of the Earth who rejected Him?
Yes.

The Dragon, Serpent, Devil called Satan… angry men have rejected him?
Yes.
Has he authority and power to cause Wrath upon men upon the face of the Earth who have rejected him?
Yes.

The Father God, called the Heavenly Father… angry men have rejected Him?
Yes.
Has He authority and power to cause Wrath upon men upon the face of the Earth who have rejected Him?
Yes.

Inasmuch as the First Great Trib sent down from Heaven…was to Separate via death…righteous men from unrighteous men… so also shall the Last Great Tribulation sent down from Heaven accomplish the same.

The “steps” to Achieve are a bit Different..
*allowing The Lamb of God’s wrath to be effected
*allowing The Devils Wrath to be Effected.
*Lastly Gods Wrath to be Effected.

Rev 6:
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Rev 12:
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rev 15:
[7] And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

Did The Lambs Wrath, the Devils Wrath, Gods Wrath… come down From Heaven Upon The First Few (8) Eight, risen up above the Earth?
No.

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

Shall the Wrath of the Lamb, Wrath of The Devil, Wrath of God come down from heaven “upon” They Baptized By the Lamb of God?
No.

Because as Righteous Noah was Lifted up above the face of the Earth… so also Shall the Righteous IN Christ be lifted up off the Face of the Earth.

1 Thes 4:
[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Glory to God,
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This one captivated me, since I have found a slew of fake AI generated prophecies recently on YouTube. But I thought there must be a real true prophecy out there. This guy seems believable. We will certainly be able to verify his claim ... by this time next week
There is no mass rapture event (on this worldly side of the equation).

Jesus gave the timing and process, and Paul elaborated and confirmed it:

"Behold I stand at the door and knock, whoever hears and opens to Me, I will enter into him and sup with him."

"But each one in his own order."
 

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The Coming of the Son of Man​

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Immediately… after THE Tribulations of THOSE Days…darkened Sun…
Is Expressly regarding the Tribulations OF the Lamb of God.

30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


Then After… the Lambs Trib, will The Son of Man will Appear….
Immediately After? No.
Sometime After? Yes.
What occurs Between the Lamb of Gods Tribulations And The Appearance of the Son of man?

That ^^ Knowledge is Revealed… IN…appropriately… REVELATIONS…


(184, 49, 47)] And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Gathering Also occurred After a sequence of Events have occured.

Mark 13:27, the same thing described as in Matthew 24:31, with the WORD showing the gathering is of the earth and heaven.
and v31 actually includes the earth when it says the four winds, is in reference to east, west, north south of the earth.

The Lamb of Gods Saved… return to Earth WITH the Lord Jesus and His Power CHRIST.
With Him, does not imply they are scattered and then Are Gathered.

They who are Gathered ARE the saved Souls In Heaven…
The Righteous, Saved by God from the Beginning, who died believing IN God and His Word…
They ON Earth who are Gathered, are They who … Physically Died During the Wrath of the Lamb, the Wrath of the Devil, Were NOT marked with the Devils Mark..and During such days…Heartfully came into “Belief” IN God and His Word…

Where are Their “saved souls”…?
Some are “under the altar”
Some are “in” Heaven.

Rev 6:
[9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Rev 7
[14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.



The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

Com-ING is NOT the Son of Man having RETURN-ED to EARTH.

Return-ED To Earth IS Being ON Earth.

Context matters.

Glory to God,
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This one captivated me, since I have found a slew of fake AI generated prophecies recently on YouTube. But I thought there must be a real true prophecy out there. This guy seems believable. We will certainly be able to verify his claim ... by this time next week
You already have a thread open on this guy. Why do you keep pushing him?
 
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