A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimPlease following me carefully, and i do hope you are understand what i trying to do by questioning it
.(BoranJarami)
To answer your original question, Jesus is not an idol.
Does Abraham, Moses, Mary, you, me, and others human being was an idol ?
(Exodus 20:3) "You shall not have any other gods before Me."(Exodus 20:4) "You shall not make a graven image for yourself, or any likeness in the heavens above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth;"These are two separate commands. We are to not have any other gods (20:3) and we are not to worship anything made by the hands of man (20:4).
Even thought both verse was separate commands, but it's related on to the others.Now by using this verse, can we worship Abraham, Moses, Mary, you, or me as Well ? Because we are not idol which is made by the hands of man is itn't ?
Jesus is not an "other god". We believe that he is the one true God. Jesus is not something that is made by the hands of man. God cannot be created.
Other human, animal, and others Creature was not made by hand of man, but does that meant we are allow to be worshiped ?
When God created the universe, he did so by speaking. In Genesis we see this, "then God said, Let light be! And there was light." (Genesis 1:3) So literally, in the beginning was the word. As we read in John 1:1, this word was both with God and was God at the same time. This can be a little difficult for us to understand, because we can not be with ourself.
If you just think about it little bit more with what God has said in Genesis and then parallize it with John thought then you will understand, that what Jesus stand is the same thing as the light in the Genesis. In Genesis the Word of God is Let light be! then it result light, meanwhile in John it has the meaning that when God spoke then it became Jesus(pbuh) so we can conclude that Word made flesh(which is Jesus (pbuh)) at John, And at Genesis Word made light. And it is easier to understand rather then your own understanding, I suppose
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We also cannot be at two different places at the same time. This is because we are only human.
Yes it's true, but seems like it has nothing to do with what you are talking about
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God, however, does not have the limits that we do. God can be with himself. God can be at two places at the same time. God can do anything. After all, he is God.
Yes God has limit, God cannot felt sorry for everything that he already did, or is He can ? God cannot cry, God cannot eat, etc... That's why God has said, God was not human. And that's why God has limited him self for human understanding so we are not corrupting any of God Mighty.
We then learn in John 1:14 that the word, which is God, is Jesus.
I already give a proper meaning above(i do think that was the suppose one).And we also learn that God has appear through human Vagina (sorry if being rought, but i do really do not want to do so, it just this is the consequences if we are considering Jesus as God as well) and this situation i do really think not make sense at all, that's why I'm believe that Jesus was God, he is exists but not as God but human only(a holy man) as a prophet.
How can Jesus talk to God in heaven if they are the same? It is because God can be at two places at once. He was both in heaven and on earth. Jesus didn't have to pray to himself because he already knew his own desires, but if he didn't pray the disciples would learn nothing about prayer. This is why Jesus prayed, to show us how it is done and how important it is.
Do you think the disciples don't know how to pray ? They has Torah and others prophets writings for doing such of thing. So why the disciples wouldn't learn it ?Ok, just considered what you have said was 1 of the wisdom that can appear, but beside that, ofcourse it showing another think then that, if Jesus was God, of course this would cause that God him self need to pray that not make sense, if Jesus was God, then how come then God leaving God ?I think you should leave your every doctrine for a while then you will be able to see from every side.Wallaahu a'lam.
To answer your original question, Jesus is not an idol.
Does Abraham, Moses, Mary, you, me, and others human being was an idol ?
(Exodus 20:3) "You shall not have any other gods before Me."(Exodus 20:4) "You shall not make a graven image for yourself, or any likeness in the heavens above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth;"These are two separate commands. We are to not have any other gods (20:3) and we are not to worship anything made by the hands of man (20:4).
Even thought both verse was separate commands, but it's related on to the others.Now by using this verse, can we worship Abraham, Moses, Mary, you, or me as Well ? Because we are not idol which is made by the hands of man is itn't ?
Jesus is not an "other god". We believe that he is the one true God. Jesus is not something that is made by the hands of man. God cannot be created.
Other human, animal, and others Creature was not made by hand of man, but does that meant we are allow to be worshiped ?
When God created the universe, he did so by speaking. In Genesis we see this, "then God said, Let light be! And there was light." (Genesis 1:3) So literally, in the beginning was the word. As we read in John 1:1, this word was both with God and was God at the same time. This can be a little difficult for us to understand, because we can not be with ourself.
If you just think about it little bit more with what God has said in Genesis and then parallize it with John thought then you will understand, that what Jesus stand is the same thing as the light in the Genesis. In Genesis the Word of God is Let light be! then it result light, meanwhile in John it has the meaning that when God spoke then it became Jesus(pbuh) so we can conclude that Word made flesh(which is Jesus (pbuh)) at John, And at Genesis Word made light. And it is easier to understand rather then your own understanding, I suppose
We also cannot be at two different places at the same time. This is because we are only human.
Yes it's true, but seems like it has nothing to do with what you are talking about
God, however, does not have the limits that we do. God can be with himself. God can be at two places at the same time. God can do anything. After all, he is God.
Yes God has limit, God cannot felt sorry for everything that he already did, or is He can ? God cannot cry, God cannot eat, etc... That's why God has said, God was not human. And that's why God has limited him self for human understanding so we are not corrupting any of God Mighty.
We then learn in John 1:14 that the word, which is God, is Jesus.
I already give a proper meaning above(i do think that was the suppose one).And we also learn that God has appear through human Vagina (sorry if being rought, but i do really do not want to do so, it just this is the consequences if we are considering Jesus as God as well) and this situation i do really think not make sense at all, that's why I'm believe that Jesus was God, he is exists but not as God but human only(a holy man) as a prophet.
How can Jesus talk to God in heaven if they are the same? It is because God can be at two places at once. He was both in heaven and on earth. Jesus didn't have to pray to himself because he already knew his own desires, but if he didn't pray the disciples would learn nothing about prayer. This is why Jesus prayed, to show us how it is done and how important it is.
Do you think the disciples don't know how to pray ? They has Torah and others prophets writings for doing such of thing. So why the disciples wouldn't learn it ?Ok, just considered what you have said was 1 of the wisdom that can appear, but beside that, ofcourse it showing another think then that, if Jesus was God, of course this would cause that God him self need to pray that not make sense, if Jesus was God, then how come then God leaving God ?I think you should leave your every doctrine for a while then you will be able to see from every side.Wallaahu a'lam.
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