Revelation 9 - The Arabs

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Revelation 9 has long been associated with the Arabs and Muslims for several reasons.  Locust are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament.  Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia.  In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar. It is also a variation of the word 'crossed' as in "mixed with the seed of men"- intermarried. The Arabs are among the most intermarried people in the world.

In Judges 6:5 and 7:12 the Midianites and the Amalekites, who are likely related to the Ishmaelites, are Arab tribes and are associated with grasshoppers or ‘LOCUST.’  Gesenius says that the Midianites are of an Arab nation, and the Amalekites are the descendants of Esau.  In Genesis 37:25 the Midianites seem identified with the Ishmaelites.  Strong's says Midian or Midianite' = "strife."   Nahum says about the Arabs...

"Make thyself many as the locusts." Nah.3:5

The East wind is mentioned in the Islamic terrorism chapter of Habakkuk 1. Locust and the East Wind perfectly describes the Arabs and Muslims goal of world domination through terrorism and demographics, as well as their form of worship.  The East wind brought the locust in Exodus 10:13 and is associated with 'falsehood, deceit, and evil'.

Exodus 10:13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.

Speaking of the Arabs, Judges 6:5 say’s...

"For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it."

Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Strong's says Abaddon is, "destruction and, the name of the angel-prince of the infernal regions, the minister of death and the author of havoc on the earth."

About Apollyon he says, "the angel of the bottomless pit, the Destroyer."

Destroyer happens to be one of Allah's 99 names.

Another author said, Protestant scholars of the nineteenth century saw with amazing unanimity the rise and spread of Islam in this passage. Why? First consider where the locusts came from. They came from the “Abyss.” One of the finest Islamic scholars of the twentieth century, Abul A’la Mawdudi, wrote a book to introduce the English-speaking world to Islam. His subtitle called Arabia, the center of Mohammed’s activities, the “Abyss of Darkness.”

The phrase “bottomless pit” in the above passage is actually the word for “abyss” in Greek. This prominent scholar used the exact words of the Bible when describing the center of Mohammed’s activity. Why locusts? Because of the Arabs’ connection to the locust. The Ishmaelites, forerunners of the modern Muslim, have as their national insignia a locust in the Bedoween romance “Antwar.” There is also a story of Mohammed that has locusts falling into his hands bearing the inscription “We are the Army of the Great God.” So here are two connections, but it doesn’t stop there.

Consider the appearance of the locusts: The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon. (Rev 9:7-11)

The Arabs were widely renowned for their skill with a horse; according to Adam Clarke it was as if the horse and the rider were one. The Muslim wore a yellow turban as a crown, according to the poem 'Antwar'. As for the face and the hair, according to Scripture a man is not to shave his beard (Lev 19:27), and the long hair of a woman is her glory (1 Cor 11:15). Arabs of the day were described as having shoulder-length hair and beards. The teeth of the lion probably represented their ferocity in battle. The breastplate reminds us of the Koran’s statement that “God hath given you coats of mail.” The tails and the stings of the scorpion were likely references to the Muslims’ ability to shoot backwards accurately while in full retreat. The power of their tails probably represented the poisonous doctrines of Islam that they were spreading to the world.

What of the other limitations placed on the army? They couldn’t harm vegetation. The Koran commands the Muslims to leave the vegetation in invaded territories alone. Muslim armies were also commanded to leave the monks in the monasteries alone and monasteries were not to be burned. These people, the Muslims thought, had God’s seal of protection on them. The Muslims were not allowed to kill the church, only torture it. That is, they couldn’t destroy the church, but they did set a series of calamities on it for five prophetic months.

The Koran commands that Muslims who invade other territories to leave the vegetation intact. Another interesting note is that when Muslims did invade other territories, they were told not to murder the monks but to leave them alone. This is a curse imposed upon certain jihadist Muslims and this 'hurt' seems to torment Muslims to the point of desiring death but are unable to achieve it. I think this kind of torment is specifically designated for jihadist. It's what they deserve.

Revelation 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. Joel chapter one is about locust. Locusts look like horses in Joel 2:4. If you look at some of the commentaries, you'll find that some people believe that the head of locust do resemble the heads of horses. The Italians call locust cavalette, as though they are little horses, and the Arabians have forever been famous for their horses and horsemanship.

Joel 2:4-6 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness. ...and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

Crowns eventually developed into turbans. In the Old Testament they were a piece of cloth tied around the head with a piece of gold or precious stone placed in the middle. Common people couldn't afford the gold or precious stones and just used a piece of cloth.

There is an Arabian proverb that says the Arabs should use turbans instead of diadems or 'crowns'. "Revelation 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions." Faces of men? The most distinguishing features of a man's face as opposed to a woman's face is a beard. The most distinguishing feature of a woman's face is her hair. What do ISIS fighters look like? Nearly all of them have long hair and a beard. Dead or alive they look the same.

1 Corinthians 11:14-15 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto hair is given her for a covering.

Teeth of lions? The lion is symbolic of the Arabs and Babylon. Teeth are symbolic of ferocity and to devour and consume.

Isaiah 30:6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.
 

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The locust of Rev. 9 has long been associated with Muslims. That's where suicide bombers are found.

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Locusts are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.
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The jihadist and the demons that inspire and torment them. For ages, many believed that the locust of Revelation 9 are Islamic. Revelation 9 actually says that the same demons that inspire the jihadist to commit the abominations of the earth, are actually attacking Muslims like scorpions to torment them for 5 months. Most people believe that the '200 million' mentioned in verse 16 is an army from China. That's not so. They are very likely demons AND/OR "jihadist."

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Revelation 9 has long been associated with the Arabs and Muslims for several reasons. Locust are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.

In Judges 6:5 and 7:12 the Midianites and the Amalekites, who are likely related to the Ishmaelites, are Arab tribes and are associated with grasshoppers or ‘LOCUST.’ Gesenius says that the Midianites are of an Arab nation, and the Amalekites are the descendants of Esau. In Genesis 37:25 the Midianites seem identified with the Ishmaelites. Strong's says Midian or Midianite' = "strife." Nahum says about the Arabs...

"Make thyself many as the locusts." Nah.3:5
The East wind is mentioned in the Islamic terrorism chapter of Habakkuk 1. Locust and the East Wind perfectly describes the Arabs and Muslims goal of world domination through terrorism and demographics, as well as their form of worship. The East wind brought the locust in Exodus 10:13 and is associated with 'falsehood, deceit, and evil'.

Exodus 10:13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.

Speaking of the Arabs, Judges 6:5 say’s...

"For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it."

Revelation 9:11...

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."(destroyer)

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

We could say that all hell breaks loose at the fifth trump. The timing of this trump should be identifiable. Most people think that the star falling from heaven refers to Satan, but Satan fell from heaven way before this. It does appear in my other studies that Lucifer/Satan still has access to heaven but it’s not his abode. He actually has no abode today. I think this ‘star’ is a fallen angel who fell ages ago with the "third," and releases the other fallen angels/demons from the abyss who transgressed ‘yet again’ (giants) from God’s laws after they rebelled in heaven. They're held in tartaroo and released for a specific purpose. This key is simply permission to open hell's gates. They are confined once again at Armageddon and God releases them again 1,000 years later for the last time.

Verse 2-3 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
 
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The locust of Rev. 9 has long been associated with Muslims. That's where suicide bombers are found.

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Locusts are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.
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The jihadist and the demons that inspire and torment them. For ages, many believed that the locust of Revelation 9 are Islamic. Revelation 9 actually says that the same demons that inspire the jihadist to commit the abominations of the earth, are actually attacking Muslims like scorpions to torment them for 5 months. Most people believe that the '200 million' mentioned in verse 16 is an army from China. That's not so. They are very likely demons AND/OR "jihadist."

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Revelation 9 has long been associated with the Arabs and Muslims for several reasons. Locust are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.

In Judges 6:5 and 7:12 the Midianites and the Amalekites, who are likely related to the Ishmaelites, are Arab tribes and are associated with grasshoppers or ‘LOCUST.’ Gesenius says that the Midianites are of an Arab nation, and the Amalekites are the descendants of Esau. In Genesis 37:25 the Midianites seem identified with the Ishmaelites. Strong's says Midian or Midianite' = "strife." Nahum says about the Arabs...

"Make thyself many as the locusts." Nah.3:5
The East wind is mentioned in the Islamic terrorism chapter of Habakkuk 1. Locust and the East Wind perfectly describes the Arabs and Muslims goal of world domination through terrorism and demographics, as well as their form of worship. The East wind brought the locust in Exodus 10:13 and is associated with 'falsehood, deceit, and evil'.

Exodus 10:13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.

Speaking of the Arabs, Judges 6:5 say’s...

"For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it."

Revelation 9:11...

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."(destroyer)

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

We could say that all hell breaks loose at the fifth trump. The timing of this trump should be identifiable. Most people think that the star falling from heaven refers to Satan, but Satan fell from heaven way before this. It does appear in my other studies that Lucifer/Satan still has access to heaven but it’s not his abode. He actually has no abode today. I think this ‘star’ is a fallen angel who fell ages ago with the "third," and releases the other fallen angels/demons from the abyss who transgressed ‘yet again’ (giants) from God’s laws after they rebelled in heaven. They're held in tartaroo and released for a specific purpose. This key is simply permission to open hell's gates. They are confined once again at Armageddon and God releases them again 1,000 years later for the last time.

Verse 2-3 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
Father Jim, you might find what I have come to understand through God's Holy Spirit and His word interesting. It's similar to what you are saying, but a little more simple, being more in the literal manifestations, of what has been taking place in all of Rev. 9, since the beginning of 2020 with COVID.

In this forum E&P, please see my thread:
"WW3: What Should/Will it Look Like?"
See post #203 and 204.
 
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Ahem!

Another example of newspaper eschatology looking for literal fulfillment in the Middle East. Sigh...

The locusts of Revelation 9 have nothing to do with the Arabs in the Middle East at all! It has to do with the unfaithful congregation of Israel, the Church, where the false prophets and christs rule to deceive many. Consider wisely...

The entire book of Revelation is a collage of cryptic numbers, figures, imagery, enigmatic representations, symbolism, analogies and metaphors. For me to agree with that would be like saying the one thousand year reign was just a normal one thousand years (as some Theologians did before 1000 years had passed). Or that the 7 churches simply spoke concerning those literal seven churches. I can't agree with that as the seven are a "representation" a symbol of some deeper spiritual truth. Seven being the number of completeness or the totality. There's not a single number in the book of Revelation that doesn't carry some symbolic spiritual significance. These numbers, like the imagery of the pit, dragon, smoke, locusts, stings, etc., aren't literal/physical, and so how can we think that we can take the 5 months out of this "symbolic context" and make it literally 5 months. No more than saying the 2 Witnesses are literally two witnesses. It's contrary to the whole of Scripture. Especially from a book where numbers are so obviously used symbolically. For example the 42 months, the 144,000 sealed of Israel, the 24 elders before the throne, the 1000 year reign, the 10 horns of the Dragon, the 7 Spirits of God, the 2 witnesses, the 4 horsemen, the 12 stars in heaven, and so on and so on. The 5 months "represents" the time period between when God gives authority to open the bottomless bit or abyss and loose the spirit of Antichrist against His rebellious house, and the time when the house is left in ruins or desolated. This as judgment for their rebellion in serving lawless man rather than God. As in Revelation 20 where Satan and his minions come against the camp of the saints, not against the world, which he already have enslaved. He gathers the nations against the camp of believers. He wants to extend his rule to the kingdom of God on earth. Revelation 9:1-2 correlates to Revelation chapter 20 when Satan is loosed from this same bottomless pit to assault the camp of the saints.

Revelation 9:1-2
  • "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
  • And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."
The messenger (star) that John saw had fallen was given the key to the bottomless pit by the Lord in order to render judgment upon his unrepenting church. This is just as God promised the fallen star, the messenger of the church, what would happen if he didn't repent from his evil. God promised that his (the star's) church would be removed out of its place. The same rule always applies, that Scripture interprets Scripture, God's word explains God's word, not man. And God interprets both the star that had fallen and the result of it if he didn't repent.

Revelation 1:20
  • "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the messengers of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches."
The Lord Himself decyphers the mystery of the symbol of the star and the Candlestick (lampstand) in His word so that there can be no misunderstanding in this uncovering. The stars He reveals are actually the messengers of the churches, and the candlesticks He assures us are actually the churches. This is according to God's revelation of the mystery of this symbolism. Now we read further and discern the warning that God Himself specifically gives to the star that had fallen.

Revelation 2:5

  • "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
So then we have God's interpretation of the heaven from which the star fell, exactly what the star that had fallen represented, and that God would indeed bring judgment upon that stars church by removing it out of its place if the messenger didn't remember from where he had fallen and repent. Allowing the Relevator to reveal this truth we see that God illustrates that it is because of this fallen star that the church is judged, and God removes it out of its place.

Indeed, only Christ has the key to the bottomless pit and at the appointed time of judgment upon the fallen star will He loose the spirit of Satan from the pit that his church be removed from its place. This removal of the candlestick (the church) is what darkens the world (Luke 8:16-17). For example, the light that was once there is put out or become dim when it is removed. In other words, the blocking of the sun (Christ/gospel) and the air (holy spirit). These are spiritual truths concerning God's judgment upon lawless man, the fallen messenger that is ruling in His holy Temple as if he were God. The 5 months of this anguish upon the church for the messengers rebellion is the length of time of the great tribulation there. This great tribulation of the church is the same torment of those who are hurt by the locust-like deceivers who devour the greenery and fruitful fields of Gospel that is representative of God's house. In other words, all those there within the congregation of God are without the seal of God. They are the professed Christians being deceived by false prophets and christs. THis is what is happening right now! Without the true security of the Spirit. It's the plague sent by God likened unto locusts upon the grass, to devastation and ruin so that people who are looking for salvation in christ, cannot find it!


Arabs? In the Middle East? Please... stop watching and allow the world news to be the interpreter of God's Word. You need to find God's interpretation right in HIS WORD! You need to learn to find GOd's definition for stars, sun, air, smoke for the purpose of blocking sun and air, locusts, seal, grass, green things, etc with the rest of Scripture. Not JErsualem Post and its coverage of Israel/Hamas War.
 
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The locust of Rev. 9 has long been associated with Muslims. That's where suicide bombers are found.

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Locusts are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.
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The jihadist and the demons that inspire and torment them. For ages, many believed that the locust of Revelation 9 are Islamic. Revelation 9 actually says that the same demons that inspire the jihadist to commit the abominations of the earth, are actually attacking Muslims like scorpions to torment them for 5 months. Most people believe that the '200 million' mentioned in verse 16 is an army from China. That's not so. They are very likely demons AND/OR "jihadist."

Revelation 9:16-17 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Revelation 9 has long been associated with the Arabs and Muslims for several reasons. Locust are figurative of the Arabs in the Old Testament. Both the scorpions and locust have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar.

In Judges 6:5 and 7:12 the Midianites and the Amalekites, who are likely related to the Ishmaelites, are Arab tribes and are associated with grasshoppers or ‘LOCUST.’ Gesenius says that the Midianites are of an Arab nation, and the Amalekites are the descendants of Esau. In Genesis 37:25 the Midianites seem identified with the Ishmaelites. Strong's says Midian or Midianite' = "strife." Nahum says about the Arabs...

"Make thyself many as the locusts." Nah.3:5
The East wind is mentioned in the Islamic terrorism chapter of Habakkuk 1. Locust and the East Wind perfectly describes the Arabs and Muslims goal of world domination through terrorism and demographics, as well as their form of worship. The East wind brought the locust in Exodus 10:13 and is associated with 'falsehood, deceit, and evil'.

Exodus 10:13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.

Speaking of the Arabs, Judges 6:5 say’s...

"For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it."

Revelation 9:11...

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."(destroyer)

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

We could say that all hell breaks loose at the fifth trump. The timing of this trump should be identifiable. Most people think that the star falling from heaven refers to Satan, but Satan fell from heaven way before this. It does appear in my other studies that Lucifer/Satan still has access to heaven but it’s not his abode. He actually has no abode today. I think this ‘star’ is a fallen angel who fell ages ago with the "third," and releases the other fallen angels/demons from the abyss who transgressed ‘yet again’ (giants) from God’s laws after they rebelled in heaven. They're held in tartaroo and released for a specific purpose. This key is simply permission to open hell's gates. They are confined once again at Armageddon and God releases them again 1,000 years later for the last time.

Verse 2-3 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
This is either a racist rant or an attempted decoy and thereby a misappropriation and misinterpretation of Revelation 9
 

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The Locust of Rev 9 are who? How did they end up in the bottomless pit? When did they go into the Bottomless pit?

If a person can answer these questions, then they will have a better understanding of what is being said in this passage.

The Locusts in Rev 9 are the Kings of the earth, fellow human beings, who have been judged at Armageddon in our near future and imprisoned in a pit for many days to await the time of their punishment. Will the kings of the earth include Arabs and Muslims and Christians, USA and British citizens, every ruler who has ragged against the Jews? My answer is yes.

It is simple to understand and comprehend when we figure it all out.
 

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Abyss/ bottomless pit, sound familiar? Who was it that begged Jesus not to send them into the Abyss? Was it not the demons in the possessed man?

Locusts with faces like men and long hair like women.....could this be demon possessed men of any stripe with seductive philosophies?

We must remember the battle is between good and evil, between God's people and Satan's people across the board. It is not about geographical nations although these are used as symbols; as types just as Israel and Jerusalem are used as types.
Victories are defined as overcoming by the blood of the Lamb not in literal warfare with swords or whatever else in geographical places......further, souls under the altar are symbols for those who have lost their lives for their testimony to Jesus; it has nothing to do with literal souls under a literal altar.
 

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Ahem!

Another example of newspaper eschatology looking for literal fulfillment in the Middle East. Sigh...

The locusts of Revelation 9 have nothing to do with the Arabs in the Middle East at all! It has to do with the unfaithful congregation of Israel, the Church, where the false prophets and christs rule to deceive many. Consider wisely...

The entire book of Revelation is a collage of cryptic numbers, figures, imagery, enigmatic representations, symbolism, analogies and metaphors. For me to agree with that would be like saying the one thousand year reign was just a normal one thousand years (as some Theologians did before 1000 years had passed). Or that the 7 churches simply spoke concerning those literal seven churches. I can't agree with that as the seven are a "representation" a symbol of some deeper spiritual truth. Seven being the number of completeness or the totality. There's not a single number in the book of Revelation that doesn't carry some symbolic spiritual significance. These numbers, like the imagery of the pit, dragon, smoke, locusts, stings, etc., aren't literal/physical, and so how can we think that we can take the 5 months out of this "symbolic context" and make it literally 5 months. No more than saying the 2 Witnesses are literally two witnesses. It's contrary to the whole of Scripture. Especially from a book where numbers are so obviously used symbolically. For example the 42 months, the 144,000 sealed of Israel, the 24 elders before the throne, the 1000 year reign, the 10 horns of the Dragon, the 7 Spirits of God, the 2 witnesses, the 4 horsemen, the 12 stars in heaven, and so on and so on. The 5 months "represents" the time period between when God gives authority to open the bottomless bit or abyss and loose the spirit of Antichrist against His rebellious house, and the time when the house is left in ruins or desolated. This as judgment for their rebellion in serving lawless man rather than God. As in Revelation 20 where Satan and his minions come against the camp of the saints, not against the world, which he already have enslaved. He gathers the nations against the camp of believers. He wants to extend his rule to the kingdom of God on earth. Revelation 9:1-2 correlates to Revelation chapter 20 when Satan is loosed from this same bottomless pit to assault the camp of the saints.

Revelation 9:1-2
  • "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
  • And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."
The messenger (star) that John saw had fallen was given the key to the bottomless pit by the Lord in order to render judgment upon his unrepenting church. This is just as God promised the fallen star, the messenger of the church, what would happen if he didn't repent from his evil. God promised that his (the star's) church would be removed out of its place. The same rule always applies, that Scripture interprets Scripture, God's word explains God's word, not man. And God interprets both the star that had fallen and the result of it if he didn't repent.

Revelation 1:20
  • "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the messengers of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches."
The Lord Himself decyphers the mystery of the symbol of the star and the Candlestick (lampstand) in His word so that there can be no misunderstanding in this uncovering. The stars He reveals are actually the messengers of the churches, and the candlesticks He assures us are actually the churches. This is according to God's revelation of the mystery of this symbolism. Now we read further and discern the warning that God Himself specifically gives to the star that had fallen.

Revelation 2:5

  • "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."
So then we have God's interpretation of the heaven from which the star fell, exactly what the star that had fallen represented, and that God would indeed bring judgment upon that stars church by removing it out of its place if the messenger didn't remember from where he had fallen and repent. Allowing the Relevator to reveal this truth we see that God illustrates that it is because of this fallen star that the church is judged, and God removes it out of its place.

Indeed, only Christ has the key to the bottomless pit and at the appointed time of judgment upon the fallen star will He loose the spirit of Satan from the pit that his church be removed from its place. This removal of the candlestick (the church) is what darkens the world (Luke 8:16-17). For example, the light that was once there is put out or become dim when it is removed. In other words, the blocking of the sun (Christ/gospel) and the air (holy spirit). These are spiritual truths concerning God's judgment upon lawless man, the fallen messenger that is ruling in His holy Temple as if he were God. The 5 months of this anguish upon the church for the messengers rebellion is the length of time of the great tribulation there. This great tribulation of the church is the same torment of those who are hurt by the locust-like deceivers who devour the greenery and fruitful fields of Gospel that is representative of God's house. In other words, all those there within the congregation of God are without the seal of God. They are the professed Christians being deceived by false prophets and christs. THis is what is happening right now! Without the true security of the Spirit. It's the plague sent by God likened unto locusts upon the grass, to devastation and ruin so that people who are looking for salvation in christ, cannot find it!


Arabs? In the Middle East? Please... stop watching and allow the world news to be the interpreter of God's Word. You need to find God's interpretation right in HIS WORD! You need to learn to find GOd's definition for stars, sun, air, smoke for the purpose of blocking sun and air, locusts, seal, grass, green things, etc with the rest of Scripture. Not JErsualem Post and its coverage of Israel/Hamas War.
I like your presentation, in your attempt to understand the spiritual value of God's pictorial imagery and the symbolic prophetic language of His thoughts.

I agree, that we are to transpose the symbolic words of Revelation through that of God's Holy Spirit, which is "the mind of Christ within us", and not that which is of "the wisdom of men", being that of our natural minds. 1 Cor. 2:5.

Having said that, I perceive that we can expect that through the realm of time, for the existence of this present earth, and all mortal life on it, the foreknowledge of God concerning it, is revealed by His prophetic words.
All of it will be manifested both spiritually and physically, being relative to both the saved (his church) and the unsaved (the world).
 
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