Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 1

[amigo de christo]

Isaiah 51:7 “Listen to me, you who know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear not the reproach of man, nor be dismayed at their revilings.


1 John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.


Habakkuk 2:4 “Behold, his soul is puffed up; it is not upright within him, but the righteous shall live by his faith.

but the righteous shall live by faith . FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST
not faith in his own self . Oh dear epi its clear to see your soul is lifted up with the very EGO
you accuse us who preach THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS as having .
OH dear epi . You truly cannot see .
Its not me going a round trying to DO by my ego
ITS YOU trying to attain by YOUR OWN ego .
How often i have said , WITHOUT FAITH IN CHRIST its in vain .
And if one beleives NOT THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST
OH BELEIVE ME their faith is not IN CHRIST NOR IN HE WHO SENT HIM . your faith IS NOT IN GOD epi
not at all . IF IT WERE
you would not constantly hammer those who say WE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS . you would have agreed .

 

[amigo de christo]

The Cross is not a "religious game".

The "religious game" is everything you teach.
Thats a fact well proven by your videos and Threads and posts.

Listen, The Cross and the "preaching of the Cross" is the "Power of God unto Salvation".... according to Paul and the NT.
But not according to your nonsense self righteous theology GAME you play with this forum and with yourself and with God.

See, its "by the foolishness of Preaching" (Paul teaches).. that God saves anyone and everyone who = believes.

A.) "all who believe in Jesus, shall be saved"..........not "all who try to do righteous deeds"., as you falsely teach.

See........ Salvation, the 'gift of Salvation"... is based on the Savior and what He has completed by His life, death, and shed blood.

A.) JESUS IS Salvation.......... only.

Jesus told you that He alone is the "only way to the Father"... John 14:6.....and that does not include your religious opinions or false theology or heretics commentary teaching(s) that you post on this forum, that all deny God's "imputed righteousness".. @Episkopos .

See, there is Paul's Gospel that concluded 2000 yrs ago that your gospel of "what i do" and "look at my works" and "see all my striving" is a false gospel.

Galatians 1:8.



You talk in circles and try to "sound spiritual"... because you are unable to just say anything that actually agrees with NT Salvation....And that is because there is nothing in you that is true that you teach, regarding how God actually saves a sinner like you. All you have to offer is this incredible pile of WORKS that you try to perform to replace God's "Gift of Salvation"
See, if you had every actually understood The Cross,.... if you truly had gone to Jesus for forgiveness, then you would be giving the Cross of Christ and the Blood of Jesus and Jesus Himself all the credit due them for your salvation, vs trying to deny them, over and over.
But because they have nothing to do with your religious pretense, , then you are left ranting incoherent nonsense in all your videos, and in all your posts and Threads.
The only thing you have going for you, is that on this one forum, the Mods who have the authority to reject liars, are not able to understand what you are doing here, as if they did, you wouldnt be teaching anything to anyone on this Forum.


Your particular false gospel is very easy to reveal.........as its this..... = "self saving". = LEGALISM.

See that?
That is you..........you are a "self saver" @Episkopos .... who is trying to create your own SELF righteousness based on misunderstanding OT verses that are not related to the NT Church or NT Doctrine.... And you actually believe God will accept your filthy self righteous works., ..YET... He never has so far, and never could, because you have no righteousness that He can accept.. and that is why He gave you JESUS on The Cross...,= as its by the Savior's BLOOD that God is able to give any sinner like you, His "imputed righteousness" that you dont want and deny exists....., and so this proves that you dont have it yet.
So, You're just one more hyper religious sinner, who has a big issue with the Cross of Christ and the Gift of Salvation. @Episkopos
And you'll keep proving this in your Videos and in your Threads and in your Posts, same as you have been doing here for over 10 yrs.
Over 10 Years. !



What i posted is very clear.
I posted that your own words...= reject God's "imputed righteousness" and you are outspoken about this... and falsely declare that God does not give His righteousness to a human,.. THEREFORE = how can you possible be born again, if you have rejected the only way to become born again, which is based on FORGIVENESS of sin, that you deny happened on The Cross.
You have to start THERE before God can give you His imputed righteousness, that you say can't happen to you.
So, its your own crazy theology that defines you as religious but lost......and all i do is point it out, and will again.



I testify that your posts deny that you even understand the Gospel of the Grace of God.
You actually teach that Paul's "gospel of the Grace of god" is a false Gospel.......so, there is no way you could have believed it, if you are teaching this very day on this very forum, AGAIN... that its false.
So, do you see your problem yet @Episkopos ?
Ive seen it for years, and God has seen it for much much longer.

Your own redundant and ridiculous theology that you post in videos as well as on this Forum, teach that you do not have God's forgiveness, and that is also according to your own Salvation Testimony.
You continue to DENY the very means that God has offered, so that you couldd become His = based on FORGIVENESS (The Cross) and "imputed righteousness" that only comes from God.
= You deny that The Cross is about forgiveness of YOUR SINS and that is why your so called "salvation testimony" has no CHRIST In it, no CROSS IN IT< and no FAITH in Christ in it.
= ZERO.
So, then how can God forgive you when you have DENIED many times on this very forum the very means of Salvation that God has offered a sinner like you, so that you could become "born again".

Listen carefully fella.........you have denied How God offers Salvation to you a sinner, so, that means you not only dont understand it......it also means you dont have it yet, according to your own VIDEOS, POSTS, and THREADS.

Understand?





The only calling you have is a inner compulsion to continue to mislead & deceive and otherwise prove that you have no real calling.
I guess next you'll play the Martyr for us again, and say that you are being attacked.....but the reality is... your own words attack The Cross and The True NT Gospel.
Thats a fact you'll continue to prove, here.

You are a self appointed rediculous religious person, according to your THEOLOGY that Denies the "imputed righteousness of God".
And just because these particular forum Mods dont care, or cant actually understand what you teach and believe, is not going to stop me from revealing you to the handful of Christian on this forum who understand that they have no righteousness, unless God as Christ on the Cross, has furnished it for them through His Shed Blood and Death, only based on THIER FAITH IN CHRIST.

And YOU deny this very "gift of Salvation" that they. have attained, and that i have attained, , while claiming you are "born again". @Episkopos

we have on e amongst us
who knows only enough about the bible to be a danger to himself and all who heed him .
My advice is
DONT HEED SUCH A ONE , rather expose such ones and their doctrine .
SO if anyone here
will not acknowledge the FACT ONE MUST ABSOLUTEY HAVE FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST
well it dont much matter what they say , ITS ALL VAIN and IN VAINITY if ones faith be NOT IN JESUS CHRIST .
And no man by the SPIRIT would ever do as i am watching he who is amongst us do .
For he who is amongst us REBUKES , CALLS RELIGIOUS DOGMA , THE VERY GOSPEL I TSELF .
GOTTA SAY , THIS DID NOT DO JESUS , NOR ANY APOSTEL OF HIS , NOR PAUL , nor any sheep .
SOmeone is not only deceived B UT MASSIVELY DECIEVED . just a friendly reminder to us all
to NOT HEED such a one but rather expose him and his doctrine .

 

[Behold]

Isaiah 51:7 “Listen to me, you who know righteousness,

Christianity is not about "knowing" righteousness, and its not about word games you want to play with people, @Episkopos .

NEW TESTAMENT Salvation, is entirely based on 1.) Forgiveness of Sin and 2.) "imputed rightesosness" that is defined by Paul as the 'gift of Righteousness".

Welcome to : Salvation.

Its a GIFT from God.

Its Forgiveness of Sin, Imputed Righteousness and Eternal life, and it must start with FAITH and the new birth.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

It always takes you a long time to drill down into your commentaries and online heretic sites to try to find a way to defend your literally false and demonic Gospel denying Theology. @Episkopos .
What you usually do is just leave the forum for at least a day, before you come back and try to defend what can't be defended using anything that the NT actually Teaches, as taught by the Apostle Paul.

"well, behold, i'll have you know that me and Paul are teaching the same thing"..

And that is one more lie you like to share here with the Christians.......and you need to confess it, but even confessing it is not going to change your dirty rotten Cross offending theology, as you are lost in heresy @Episkopos ........totally.........and for so many years that there is no way back for you.
You are so far gone, that the actual Gospel has become to you, "some false teaching"... "some evangelistic junk"........is how you define it now in your latter days as Heb 9:27 heads your way.
You are one of the worst Titus 3:10's ive ever met in my 38 yrs of dealing with religious hackjobs both online and in Real Life Ministry.
No real Pastor who understands God's Grace as The Cross of Christ....... is going to let you get anywhere near their congregation.

Forums are different in that regard, as many of them do tend to allow what shouldn't be allowed.

And one of your biggest issues.......is that You post verses you can't understand to try to fool people here, who can be fooled because they are not really a student of the bible......So, These tend to have the same issue you have.......They have a Dusty bible, or a fake one, (and they would not know the difference)..... and both are collecting dust, because all they want to do is argue on the forum, and all they have to use to do that is what some deceiver like you taught them from a commentary or online site or video.


So, Let me explain your verse to you.

Notice that John says :"little children"......so this is John's typical greeting to born again Believers.
Paul greeted them also, and often He called them "the church".
And in both cases, its because these CHRISTians have received God's "imputed righteousness", and this affirms and confirms that they are equal to God's Righteousness, because its been inputed to them.
So, that is why John refers to this righteousness as "he is righteous".. as that is explaining that they have received God's own righteousness. or the same righteousness.

See, if John was talking about THEIR righteousness, as you misunderstand it, then John would never compare it to God's.

So, a parallel verse is.....>"be you rightesous, as HE is righteous"......or "as GOD is Righteous"... and that is impossible for a sinner to do of themselves.
And who is a sinner?.........You are.......and that is why you have to have "God's imputed righteousness" or you will die unrighteous, "in your sins".. .Jesus explains..... and you will not meet God as your Father, because He will meet you as your eternal Judge, after you die.
So, real CHRISTians understand this as the imputed rightesousness of God.. that is "the Gift of Salvation"......and every born again believer is become = "the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, IN CHRIST""......as Paul explains.

Another way to understand this is to understand this phrase........ "Christ is made unto you"..
See that?
That is (KJV) 1 Corin 1:30........and that is further explained by Paul as being "complete in HIM".... that Paul the Apostle also explains as being "IN Christ".

Try to understand that the only way a SINNER like you can become Righteous, is if God gives you His righteousness, the same way He gave it to Abraham or to Paul or to anyone who has it.

A.) Its "the GIFT of Righteousness".

AA.) Its "imputed righteousness".......based on "faith"...."faith is counted by God, as Righteousness".
This means that God gives righteousness to the believer and eternally decrees and esteems them "the righteousness of God" in Christ.

@Episkopos .......the eternal issue with your false self righteousness is simply that its not based on Jesus or the Cross of Christ, and that is why your vain religion is damned and that is why your gospel is cursed.......Galatians 1:8

Habakkuk 2:4 “but the righteous shall live by his faith.

"Live by his faith".........in what?

You have no idea what your verse is explaining.

Paul teaches that we "live by the faith of Christ".. "who loved me and gave Himself for me".
And you also have no idea what that means.......and all you can do is GOOGLE IT, and WIKI it and try to understand it and then come back here and pretend you understand, but you dont.
Or, if you become frustrated enough, you'll make another video to try to prove that you understand something, that you dont understand.
Your Videos are the ultimate proof that you are a devout yet clueless = self righteous and very religious person.

@Episkopos ..... you are the person who claims Christianity for yourself, yet your own Salvation Testamony, has no "trust in Christ". or "forgiveness of sin"........found in it.
You can revise it, but ive seen the ORIGINAL, and there is no Christianity found in it.
Not any.

You are a religious pretender, as proven by your Videos, Threads, and posts... who is allowed to come here and just spew out the worst Cross offending religious Trash philosophy that is so purposely offensive to the Cross of Christ and the Grace of God.

 

[amigo de christo]

Christianity is not about "knowing" righteousness, and its not about word games you want to play with people, @Episkopos .

NEW TESTAMENT Salvation, is entirely based on 1.) Forgiveness of Sin and 2.) "imputed rightesosness" that is defined by Paul as the 'gift of Righteousness".

Welcome to : Salvation.

Its a GIFT from God.

Its Forgiveness of Sin, Imputed Righteousness and Eternal life, and it must start with FAITH and the new birth.




It always takes you a long time to drill down into your commentaries and online heretic sites to try to find a way to defend your literally false and demonic Gospel denying Theology. @Episkopos .
What you usually do is just leave the forum for at least a day, before you come back and try to defend what can't be defended using anything that the NT actually Teaches, as taught by the Apostle Paul.

"well, behold, i'll have you know that me and Paul are teaching the same thing"..

And that is one more lie you like to share here with the Christians.......and you need to confess it, but even confessing it is not going to change your dirty rotten Cross offending theology, as you are lost in heresy @Episkopos ........totally.........and for so many years that there is no way back for you.
You are so far gone, that the actual Gospel has become to you, "some false teaching"... "some evangelistic junk"........is how you define it now in your latter days as Heb 9:27 heads your way.
You are one of the worst Titus 1:10's ive ever met in my 38 yrs of dealing with religious hackjobs.
No real Pastor who understands God's Grace as The Cross of Christ....... is going to let you get anywhere near their congregation.

Forums are different in that regard, as many of them do tend to allow what shouldn't be allowed.

And one of your biggest issues.......is that You post verses you can't understand to try to fool people here, who can be fooled because they are not really a student of the bible......So, These tend to have the same issue you have.......They have a Dusty bible, or a fake one, (and they would not know the difference)..... and both are collecting dust, because all they want to do is argue on the forum, and all they have to use to do that is what some deceiver like you taught them from a commentary or online site or video.


So, Let me explain your verse to you.

Notice that John says :"little children"......so this is John's greetings to born again Believers.
Paul greeted them also, and often He called them "the church".
And in both cases, its because these CHRISTians have received God's "imputed righteousness", and this affirms and confirms that they are equal to God's Righteousness, because its been inputed to them.
So, that is why John refers to this righteousness as "he is righteous".. as that is explaining that they have received God's own righteousness. or the same righteousness.

See, if John was talking about THEIR righteousness, as you misunderstand it, then John would never compare it to God's.

So, a parallel verse is.....>"be you rightesous, as HE is righteous"......or "as GOD is Righteous"... and that is impossible for a sinner to do of themselves.
And who is a sinner?.........You are.......and that is why you have to have "God's imputed righteousness" or you will die unrighteous, "in your sins".. .Jesus explains..... and you will not meet God as your Father, because He will meet you as your eternal Judge.
So, we understand this as the rightesousness of God........and every born again believer is become = "the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, IN CHRIST""......as Paul explains.

Another way to understand this is to understand this phrase........ "Christ is made unto you"..
See that?
That is (KJV) 1 Corin 1:30........and that is further explained by Paul as being "complete in HIM".... that Pauil also explains as being "IN Christ".

Try to understand that the only way a SINNER like you can become Righteous, is if God gives you His righteousness, the same way He gave it to Abraham or to Paul or to anyone who has it.

A.) Its "imputed righteousness".......based on "faith"...."faith is counted by God, as Righteousness".
This means that God gives righteousness to the believer and eternally decrees and esteems them "the righteousness of God" in Christ.

@Episkopos ........your false self righteousness is not based on Jesus or the Cross of Christ, and that is why your vain religion is damned and that is why your gospel is cursed.......Galatians 1:8



"Live by his faith".........in what?

You have no idea.

Paul teaches that we "live by the faith of Christ".. "who loved me and gave Himself for me".
And you also have no idea what that means.......and all you can do is GOOGLE IT, and WIKI it and try to understand it and then come back here and pretend you understand, but you dont.
Or, if you become frustrated enough, you'll make another video to try to prove that you understand something, that you dont understand.
Your Videos are the ultimate proof that you are a devout yet clueless = self righteous and very religious person.

"well behold, you dont seem to be showing this member enough LOVE".

Ok, well, when this member begins to stop lying to the forum, and stops abusing the scriptures and finally comes to The Cross with faith instead of with contempt, we'll see about that "love".
No worries.
I have plenty of Love....... im filled with it, but i offer none of it to fake religious pretenders who try to cause chaos and strife on forums.
Believe it.


@Episkopos ..... you are the person who claims Christianity for yourself, yet your own Salvation Testamony, has no "trust in Christ". or "forgiveness of sin"........found in it.
You can revise it, but ive seen the ORIGINAL, and there is no Christianity found in it.
Not any.

You are a religious pretender, who is allowed to come here and just spew out the worst Cross offending religious Trash philosophy that is so purposely offensive to the Cross of Christ and the Grace of God.

Exactly , LIVE by THE FAITH OF CHRIST who loved me and GAVE HIMSELF for me .
But many chose to live by their faith and their faith is in THEM SELVES . NOT IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause had THEY FAITH IN HIM , THEY HAD TRUSTED that HE HAS ALREADY DONE FOR US
all that was needed for our salvation . THEY HAD TRUSTED IN HIS W ORKS , WHAT HE DID
not in WHAT they can do or think they can do for to attain RIGHTEOUSENSS .
MANY have not submitted TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD .
For many have not submitted unto FAITH IN HE who IN HIM we are made THE RIGTHEOUSNESS OF GOD .
THAT BE JESUS THE CHRIST . FAITH IN HIM .
but sirs what must i do to be saved ,
EPI says PIck up yoUR OWN CROSS and dont worry about BELEIVING ON HE who was CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS .
FATAL MISTAKE right there .

 

[Episkopos]

Exactly , LIVE by THE FAITH OF CHRIST who loved me and GAVE HIMSELF for me .
But many chose to live by their faith and their faith is in THEM SELVES . NOT IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause had THEY FAITH IN HIM , THEY HAD TRUSTED that HE HAS ALREADY DONE FOR US
all that was needed for our salvation . THEY HAD TRUSTED IN HIS W ORKS , WHAT HE DID
not in WHAT they can do or think they can do for to attain RIGHTEOUSENSS .
MANY have not submitted TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD .
For many have not submitted unto FAITH IN HE who IN HIM we are made THE RIGTHEOUSNESS OF GOD .
THAT BE JESUS THE CHRIST . FAITH IN HIM .
but sirs what must i do to be saved ,
EPI says PIck up yoUR OWN CROSS and dont worry about BELEIVING ON HE who was CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS .
FATAL MISTAKE right there .

"EPI says PIck up yoUR OWN CROSS and dont worry about BELEIVING ON HE who was CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS .
FATAL MISTAKE right there ."


And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. Matt. 10:38

 

[Behold]

And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. Matt. 10:38

Listen.

No one is worthy of Salvation.
No one deserves it, and no one can earn it.

Its our SIN that qualifies us for God's Salvation.......but we dont deserve it.

"All have sinned, all have fallen short" of God's glory and God's Law and Commandments., including you.

See, you are very confused, and you continually post verses and strange theological anti-Cross concepts, that prove it.

Notice your verse says to "follow me"......

And yet, noone goes to Heaven or becomes a Christian by "following Jesus"., as a follower of Jesus, ...as Jesus defines them, is a person who "keeps my words".
And that one, (and Christ is only talking to Jews in your verse), is a DISCIPLE.

Disciples of Christ were casting out devils using Jesus's name, and Jesus said of these FOLLOWERS, ...."depart from me, i never knew you".

A Disciple is a person who tries to follow Jesus, and keep the commandments and the law, and Hell is filled with these SELF RIGHTEOUS workers because Jesus never "knew them".

Why not?

Because they were never born again.. they are RELIGIOUS BUT LOST......as its the new birth that is the eternal distinction between a mere disciple, and a "new creation in Christ"... CHRISTian.

And you dont know any of this, but now that i explained it.....will you be putting it in your next Theologically useless Video, while you pretend that "you knew all that".... @Episkopos . ?
You're the type to do it.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Exactly , LIVE by THE FAITH OF CHRIST who loved me and GAVE HIMSELF for me .
But many chose to live by their faith and their faith is in THEM SELVES . NOT IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause had THEY FAITH IN HIM , THEY HAD TRUSTED that HE HAS ALREADY DONE FOR US
all that was needed for our salvation . THEY HAD TRUSTED IN HIS W ORKS , WHAT HE DID
not in WHAT they can do or think they can do for to attain RIGHTEOUSENSS .
MANY have not submitted TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD .
For many have not submitted unto FAITH IN HE who IN HIM we are made THE RIGTHEOUSNESS OF GOD .
THAT BE JESUS THE CHRIST . FAITH IN HIM .
but sirs what must i do to be saved ,
EPI says PIck up yoUR OWN CROSS and dont worry about BELEIVING ON HE who was CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS .
FATAL MISTAKE right there .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

but the righteous shall live by faith . FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST
not faith in his own self . Oh dear epi its clear to see your soul is lifted up with the very EGO
you accuse us who preach THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS as having .
OH dear epi . You truly cannot see .
Its not me going a round trying to DO by my ego
ITS YOU trying to attain by YOUR OWN ego .
How often i have said , WITHOUT FAITH IN CHRIST its in vain .
And if one beleives NOT THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST
OH BELEIVE ME their faith is not IN CHRIST NOR IN HE WHO SENT HIM . your faith IS NOT IN GOD epi
not at all . IF IT WERE
you would not constantly hammer those who say WE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS . you would have agreed .

@amigo de christo

 

[Episkopos]

In these perilous times that are few indeed who are able to rightly divide the word of truth. So many are confused about the role of God and the role of the believer...or what is based on holiness and what is based on righteousness. Instead what is presented is a hodge-podge of doctrinal twists and turns that lowers the standard of Christ to what any religious addict can do...and that destroys God's mercy over the meek and the righteous. These self-righteous ones condemn what God accepts and accept what God condemns. They are not wise. And they have a loud voice that seeks to drown out the still small voice of the Spirit.

I am making known what the Spirit is saying...and see the opposition to it. Such is the condition of the decoy version of Christianity. The counterfeit version follows the aspirations of men, not God. It does not receive the truth, but revels in lies and pollution of the truth. But judgment is coming. It is wise to repent and buy from the Lord what is needed to turn from darkness to light....while there is still time.

 

[Episkopos]

Listen.

No one is worthy of Salvation.
No one deserves it, and no one can earn it.

Its our SIN that qualifies us for God's Salvation.......but we dont deserve it.

"All have sinned, all have fallen short" of God's glory and God's Law and Commandments., including you.

See, you are very confused, and you continually post verses and strange theological anti-Cross concepts, that prove it.

Notice your verse says to "follow me"......

And yet, noone goes to Heaven or becomes a Christian by "following Jesus"., as a follower of Jesus, ...as Jesus defines them, is a person who "keeps my words".
And that one, (and Christ is only talking to Jews in your verse), is a DISCIPLE.

Disciples of Christ were casting out devils using Jesus's name, and Jesus said of these FOLLOWERS, ...."depart from me, i never knew you".

A Disciple is a person who tries to follow Jesus, and keep the commandments and the law, and Hell is filled with these SELF RIGHTEOUS workers because Jesus never "knew them".

Why not?

Because they were never born again.. they are RELIGIOUS BUT LOST......as its the new birth that is the eternal distinction between a mere disciple, and a "new creation in Christ"... CHRISTian.

And you dont know any of this, but now that i explained it.....will you be putting it in your next Theologically useless Video, while you pretend that "you knew all that".... @Episkopos . ?
You're the type to do it.

You have the audacity to contradict Jesus Himself in favour of your own religious scheme. But who has any discernment of the truth?

 

[Rockerduck]

You have the audacity to contradict Jesus Himself in favour of your own religious scheme. But who has any discernment of the truth?

Let me ask you. Are you 100% sure, without a doubt, positively sure that after you die, that you will be in Heaven with Jesus?

 

[Episkopos]

When men try to organize what only God can do, it opens the floodgates for the unregenerate and unrepentant to obliterate the standard of Christ as we have seen. It's to the point where even those who have been regenerated by the Spirit are fooled by the religious posturings that, in their naivete, they accept as being the mainstream. If possible even the elect would be deceived...

 

[Episkopos]

Let me ask you. Are you 100% sure, without a doubt, positively sure that after you die, that you will be in Heaven with Jesus?

I am sure that BEFORE I die I will walk in heaven with Jesus as I already have experienced. There is no heaven after you die. Heaven is meant to be entered into right NOW. NOW is the time of salvation. Now is the time to actually meet Jesus and walk with Him in HIS resurrection life.

Too much deception out there...that has turned Christianity into a Nordic style religion where people want to go to Valhalla after they die. And instead of grasping a sword as the Vikings did... for security of an after-life...people think the grasping a bible has that same effect.

But there will be many surprises for the ones who claim to know Jesus...many rejections.

 

[Rockerduck]

I am sure that BEFORE I die I will walk in heaven with Jesus as I already have experienced. There is no heaven after you die. Heaven is meant to be entered into right NOW. NOW is the time of salvation. Now is the time to actually meet Jesus and walk with Him in HIS resurrection life.

Too much deception out there...that has turned Christianity into a Nordic style religion where people want to go to Valhalla after they die. And instead of grasping a sword as the Vikings did... for security of an after-life...people think the grasping a bible has that same effect.

But there will be many surprises for the ones who claim to know Jesus...many rejections.

Nope, in this life you receive the Holy Spirit, a of promise of redemption. Its the golden ticket that you know that after you die, you will be with Jesus forever. In this life you are born twice, by flesh and then by the Holy Spirit. Without Christ in this life, you are born once, then die twice. Bodily, then the lake of fire.

 

[Episkopos]

Nope, in this life you receive the Holy Spirit, a of promise of redemption. Its the golden ticket that you know that after you die, you will be with Jesus forever. In this life you are born twice, by flesh and then by the Holy Spirit. Without Christ in this life, you are born once, then die twice. Bodily, then the lake of fire.

So then you are not concerned with "working out your own salvation with fear and trembling"? You prefer a smug self-assurance based on???? what exactly???

Jesus will reject many who call Him Lord. But you seem unconcerned. Would a concern or a proper fear of the Lord not mitigate the possibility of being rejected? What if God is looking for eternal fruit from you? What if a person can fail grace, bury their talent....etc???

I don't find this generation of believers very wise. I speak in understatements.

The promise of God has conditions. God gives us a sample of His Spirit in a downpayment...to be fully delivered when the conditions are met.

Jesus healed 10 lepers but only one returned to Him. Jesus asked...I healed 10, where are the other 9?

How many here who claim to be saved and regenerated have the faith to seek God's face and receive the FULL MEASURE of grace from God Himself in order to fulfill His commandments....to walk as Jesus walked?????

When the Son of Man returns will He find faith on the earth? Loads of religious beliefs, sure, but faith????

 

[Rockerduck]

So then you are not concerned with "working out your own salvation with fear and trembling"? You prefer a smug self-assurance based on???? what exactly???

Jesus will reject many who call Him Lord. But you seem unconcerned. Would a concern or a proper fear of the Lord not mitigate the possibility of being rejected? What if God is looking for eternal fruit from you? What if a person can fail grace, bury their talent....etc???

I don't find this generation of believers very wise. I speak in understatements.

Working out you own salvation is part of the Sanctification process that is life long. See, once born again from above, you are sanctified,; set apart. Sanctification is the process that God puts us through, that God changes us, and disciplines us, to be conformed to the image of Christ.

 

[soberxp]

I don't find this generation of believers very wise. I speak in understatements.

Including you and me,

But no matter what, when you stand before God and Jesus Christ,

When Jesus Christ said to you:"I never know you."

How should you properly face this, How will you answer Jesus Christ?

 

[Episkopos]

Working out you own salvation is part of the Sanctification process that is life long. See, once born again from above, you are sanctified,; set apart. Sanctification is the process that God puts us through, that God changes us, and disciplines us, to be conformed to the image of Christ.

This is from your indoctrination. There is NO process of sanctification. One is either holy or not. Are you 25% holy or 50% holy?

What believes are meant to grow into is righteousness, not holiness. Paul says that the scriptures are good for instruction (growing in) in righteousness. Have you read the bible all the way to Timothy?

The reason why religious clerics have invented a progressive sanctification is to not upset another false doctrine...that of having an IMPUTED righteousness of God. So as not to confuse the indoctrinated ones, they have to compound the lies to make blasphemous claims...that protect their having lowered the standard of Christ to what any sinner can claim.

It's all about fooling the masses and filling the pews. No truth there, just lies.

So then you may read the bible and have the jargon....but without any understanding of the truth, spiritual reality, or the gospel. Such is the way of men.

If you want to investigate the truth...check out my podcast series, and read the bible without the blinders on. I help to wake people from their deep sleep. :)

 

[Episkopos]

Including you and me,

But no matter what, when you stand before God and Jesus Christ,

When Jesus Christ said to you:"I never know you."

How should you properly face this, How will you answer Jesus Christ?

There is no answer once you are dead. But you can seek the face of the Lord NOW and live in spiritual reality BEFORE you die. You can be translated into Zion....the kingdom of God...to walk in His light and power, doing what Jesus is doing.....walking as Jesus walked means that you have been translated INTO Christ. All of the promises of eternal life are about entering INTO Christ....to be where He is.

The bible is being fully misunderstood...reading a very shallow interpretation that misses the truth entirely.

 

[soberxp]

There is no answer once you are dead.

This is one of the viewpoints in the Bible.
It's not the question I asked.