Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 1

[amigo de christo]

God has hidden the path of the truth from those who seek salvation for themselves and are willing to judge others who don't believe as they do. They have been outsmarted by the Lord in their "wise choice" to be believers in Jesus. Many will say...Lord Lord... but those very same rejected ones are here, NOT fearing the Lord, and always claiming that the warnings are for others. Not wise. Foolish children.

oh there is a hidden truth for those who failed to believe ON JESUS
and oh yes for those who also used His name but made war against those who said YE MUST FIRST bleieve on HIM
and that hidden truth is , LOOK OUT YOU BEEN DECIEVED . it darn sure aint truth that leads anone to salvation .
SO here that hidden truth and cease fire fast . cause you are correct
many are gonna say LORD LORD , only to be told I NEVER KNEW YOU .
see we cannot MAKE VOID the dire necessity to have to BELIEVE ON HIM . number one
and number two is
IF we cliam to BLEIEVE and yet walk in darkness , WE LIE . but you t ry and attack even those
who first say YE MUST BELEIVE .
Not gonna bode well for you epi .
You had truths present , BUT WHEN YOU DENY THE BIG ONE that says YE MUST BELIEVE IN HIM
you preach nothing but vainity .
YOU should have done BOTH . BOTH reminded OF THE DIRE NEED TO BLEIEVE ON JESUS
AND TO BE WALKING as HE DID . but nope you try and teach folks to walk as HE did
and YET DENY THE MOST absolute essential thing necessary . TO FIRST HAVE TO BELIEVE ON HIM . watch out epi .
watch out .

 

[Episkopos]

oh there is a hidden truth for those who failed to believe ON JESUS
and oh yes for those who also used His name but made war against those who said YE MUST FIRST bleieve on HIM
and that hidden truth is , LOOK OUT YOU BEEN DECIEVED . it darn sure aint truth that leads anone to salvation .
SO here that hidden truth and cease fire fast . cause you are correct
many are gonna say LORD LORD , only to be told I NEVER KNEW YOU .
see we cannot MAKE VOID the dire necessity to have to BELIEVE ON HIM . number one
and number two is
IF we cliam to BLEIEVE and yet walk in darkness , WE LIE . but you t ry and attack even those
who first say YE MUST BELEIVE .
Not gonna bode well for you epi .
You had truths present , BUT WHEN YOU DENY THE BIG ONE that says YE MUST BELIEVE IN HIM
you preach nothing but vainity .
YOU should have done BOTH . BOTH reminded OF THE DIRE NEED TO BLEIEVE ON JESUS
AND TO BE WALKING as HE DID . but nope you try and teach folks to walk as HE did
and YET DENY THE MOST absolute essential thing necessary . TO FIRST HAVE TO BELIEVE ON HIM . watch out epi .
watch out .

I didn't think you could be clever, because of the simplicity of your repetitions. But I see what you are saying...however, you are the one attacking anything beyond a baby stage. As I said, I have nothing against baby believers. But you rail against anything that doesn't have a diaper attached. So your argument is backwards. I am speaking to potential disciples and seekers of deeper understanding. You are not either of those. But you see yourself as a sort of baby belief patrol.

There are many false believers in the churches. And they are all stuck in baby mode. They are unable to come out of a carnal mode. The gospel is about being saved INTO Christ, not just adopting a belief system about Christ. The devil also believes.

So you have to ask yourself...why are you so against spiritual growth in Christ?

The answer of course is that you prefer beliefs to faith. But what you can't see is that beliefs get in the way of faith. That's why you will remain a spiritual thumb-sucker.

You attack me because your religious beliefs seek to destroy my spiritual faith IN Christ. Your ego is too big to just let it go.

 

[Episkopos]

Faith can only take root once someone leaves their beliefs behind...no longer trusting in their own reasoning power, having no more confidence in the flesh. No more religious certainties. Certainty cannot fear the Lord. It is the way of the carnal ego to be certain BEFORE one is broken. When someone comes to the end of themselves THEN faith can kick in and God can intervene. It's like waiting to save a drowning person until they stop kicking and trying so hard to remain alive. Only after the struggle to survive ends can a drowning person be saved. Jesus said that someone who seeks to save their life will lose it. It is only in the full surrender of one's life whereby it is found. No longer I (ego), but Christ.

Is this way beyond the understanding of most? Can a person not be instructed in God's ways?

 

[Lizbeth]

This misunderstanding happens for a reason. The reason is unbelief of the truth. The irony here is that the virtue-signalling and judgmentalism of the poster boomerangs, so to speak, back onto the purveyor of religious conformism, PROVING that such a one is fully outside the faith OF Christ. The faith being shown by such is a religious belief system that was condemned by Jesus...because it comes from the ego. Many will say Lord, Lord. And we are seeing this in real time...and shockingly there is NO FEAR of the Lord....therefore the condemnation remains.

Except that Amigo wasn't misunderstanding him, as was clear from his reply.

Yes we do need to have fear of the Lord, and the church in general seems to have too little of that these days......but also let's not forget that the Lord is also merciful and kind and gracious....He knows that sometimes people also need encouragement and love and such things as healing from emotional wounds etc in order to move forward. The Lord ministers to each soul as He knows in His wisdom what they have need of and when. It is the Tree of LIFE we need to get hold of, not the Tree of Knowledge....the letter kills but the Spirit gives LIFE.

 

[Episkopos]

The soul can't take credit for a regenerated spirit. We are better off seeing our soul as a separate person from ourselves, for the sake of salvation of the soul. A person who declares themselves saved without being broken can easily fall into the trap of hypocrisy. Remaining a baby believer for these means they will now remain a hypocrite. That's why growing in righteousness is crucial to survival.

Why work out one's own salvation with fear and trembling? Because actual growth can't grow out of a spiritual experience or gift from God.

One needs a NEW CONVERSION after conversion. A whole other level of salvation. There are 2 levels of salvation to consider. Exodus speaks of two barriers to cross. The first one is easy enough. The next one is almost impossible for the carnal believer.

Why such complexity? To weed out the hypocrites AND to preserve the righteous who cannot enter the narrow way. It all depends on our attitude towards what we have been given. To whom much is given MORE is required.

 

[Lizbeth]

It's amazing how willfully blind many are here.


You aren't seeing the shallowness of your beliefs. I testify to the resurrection life and power of Christ...and you rail against other religions. You are a spiritual thumb-sucker so to speak...and you argue the wetness of puddles against river systems. You are that blind to your true condition. And no one can help you. They can only high-five your shocking ignorance of the truth...by others who are just as blind to the truth as you are.


Of course not...because I don't revel in milk drinking. I'm not a baby believer as you are.

Always stuck in baby mode. But what you fail to understand is that you are feeding a religious ego...seeking to destroy what is precious to God in favour of making you FEEL more saved than others. perfect hypocrisy.

Go back and read your identical sounding posts...thousands of them...all virtue-signalling how important it is to wear the proper diapers and such. You reveal both your own shallowness and that of others here. And I warn you, not because I'm against baby believers...but against those who rail against taking any steps beyond the baby stage.

You are unable to hear anything beyond a beginner's testimony...because that's all you have. And you don't have the sense to learn and listen and be quiet when faced with something that comes from the Lord that you don't understand. Will you ever learn?

I just wonder what people are supposed to think when the tenor of someone's posts belies the holiness they purport to preach.

 

[Episkopos]

I just wonder what people are supposed to think when the tenor of someone's posts belies the holiness they purport to preach.

Do you think holiness is a comfortable standard for the flesh? People hate holiness, preferring easy sounding certainties...to the point where holiness is railed against. As in...why do you torment us before the time?

But the wise hear what comes from holiness and begin to fear and tremble, realizing they are not in God's sphere at all.

I know how you think...but there is no way forward that way. You want to advance in what is impossible for people to do. What you have to do is what is POSSIBLE for people to do. Only God can bring holiness into the picture.

So you are building on the wrong foundation...trying to play God and improve yourself into holiness. That is the way of condemnation. The way forward is downward...in humility and trembling before the Lord. But a religious certainty cannot, and will not, fear before the Lord.

One can THINK they are building on Christ or an experience of Him...but that is the way of Babylon. Don't go back to Bethel. Go to God Himself.

But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought. Seek the LORD and live, or he will sweep through the tribes of Joseph like a fire; it will devour them, and Bethel will have no one to quench it. Amos 5:5-6

 

[Lizbeth]

Do you think holiness is a comfortable standard for the flesh? People hate holiness, preferring easy sounding certainties...to the point where holiness is railed against. As in...why do you torment us before the time?

But the wise hear what comes from holiness and begin to fear and tremble, realizing they are not in God's sphere at all.

I know how you think...but there is no way forward that way. You want to advance in what is impossible for people to do. What you have to do is what is POSSIBLE for people to do. Only God can bring holiness into the picture.

So you are building on the wrong foundation...trying to play God and improve yourself into holiness. That is the way of condemnation. The way forward is downward...in humility and trembling before the Lord. But a religious certainty cannot, and will not, fear before the Lord.

One can THINK they are building on Christ or an experience of Him...but that is the way of Babylon. Don't go back to Bethel. Go to God Himself.

But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought. Seek the LORD and live, or he will sweep through the tribes of Joseph like a fire; it will devour them, and Bethel will have no one to quench it. Amos 5:5-6

Trying to justify one's toxicity and bad behaviour............is not Godly sorrow that leads to repentance.

No you don't know how I think. You keep forgetting, or conveniently pretend to. What you are saying is not how I think, at all.

I agree with what you are saying about Bethel and Gilgal. The Lord wants us moving forward, forgetting what lies behind and reaching for what lies ahead........not continually laying the foundation but going on to perfection. Nevertheless that foundation does have to have first been laid before one can go on.

 

[Episkopos]

Trying to justify one's toxicity and bad behaviour............is not Godly sorrow that leads to repentance.

No you don't know how I think. You keep forgetting, or conveniently pretend to. What you are saying is not how I think, at all.

I agree with what you are saying about Bethel and Gilgal. The Lord wants us moving forward, forgetting what lies behind and reaching for what lies ahead........not continually laying the foundation but going on to perfection. Nevertheless that foundation does have to have first been laid before one can go on.

But you can't build from that foundation. That's the point I'm trying to relate to you...but you can't hear it. The way up is down. There is NO advancement into holiness. Only in righteousness.

 

[Lizbeth]

But you can't build from that foundation. That's the point I'm trying to relate to you...but you can't hear it. The way up is down. There is NO advancement into holiness. Only in righteousness.

Christ in us the hope of glory. "Investing" the measure we have received (parable of the talents). We're not supposed to dig out the foundation. But we do need to die to ourselves. The way up is down....I agree in the sense of humility and growing recognition of what we are without Jesus and how our walk is still tainted by the flesh etc....needing to come to the end of ourselves and surrender fully to the Lord.

Didn't you say you still need to grow/learn...? Walking in the spirit doesn't mean one doesn't still have things to deal with, does it?

 

[Episkopos]

Christ in us the hope of glory. "Investing" the measure we have received (parable of the talents). We're not supposed to dig out the foundation. But we do need to die to ourselves. The way up is down....I agree in the sense of humility and growing recognition of what we are without Jesus and how our walk is still tainted by the flesh etc....needing to come to the end of ourselves and surrender fully to the Lord.

Didn't you say you still need to grow/learn...? Walking in the spirit doesn't mean one doesn't still have things to deal with, does it?

Well, my own trajectory in Christ-likeness has to do with learning righteousness. Learning to LOVE righteousness in all its forms as God does.

The foundation of Christ can be seen in 2 ways. The first way, that is not advisable, is to consider oneself as being righteous and special because of a regenerated spirit. The better way is to become like Jesus who humbled Himself and became as a servant even to death on a cross. So then to follow Christ means we let go of whatever divine achievements we think we have...just like Jesus who thought it not applicable to consider Himself equal with God, but rather looked at where He was needing growth and wisdom....in order to fulfill ALL righteousness. (on both levels).

There is a way that seems right...

So what does building on Christ mean? To claim one's "birthright" in divinity? As Isaiah puts it....to build one's sepulchers on high? Or to act as Jesus and humble ourselves to learn righteousness and humility???

 

[Hillsage]

I would ask you...in what way does what you have laid out in your post edify the body of Christ?

I would have to say that, what I am doing to edify the body, is no different than what everyone else here is doing. I am presenting a paradigm I believe I have received from 50 years of studying more than any peer I have ever known. And part of that has come from "anointed" study which scripture says negates needing anyone to teach you what is truth. And that is a 'need' which is more important today than ever IMO. Even my wife who was my secretary for 40 years, seeing how much time was spent in bible study, even during office hours agreed. More than once, over the years, she had commented to me and others; "The perfect job for D would be to be a part of a Christian think tank." And I agree, that would have been 'fun'. But it wasn't God's calling. I wasn't called to just GO to church, I was called to BE the church.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Your chart says the righteous are under the Law and I am stuck at that point.

In the New Covenant we are under the Law of Christ, not the old testament law.

Now some get confused because God's moral law given under the OT is carried over by the Lord in to the New Covenant but that does NOT mean Christians are to live under the OT law.

The Galatians turned away from the Lord Jesus and went back to seeking to be justified under the old covenant law and they fell from grace. So we definitely do not want to try to live under the OT law.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

This is false. Jesus came to fulfill the law. And anyone who transgresses the law is condemned. You don't understand either righteousness or holiness....and you are too stubborn to be taught.

Maybe you did not do a good job teaching we are now under the Law of Christ as New Covenant believers.

Did you explain that Jesus fulfilled thee OT law by keeping it perfectly (satisfying the Father) and then He did away the first covenant, that he may establish the second? And explain that Jesus is now High Priest and Moses is not?

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. (God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The Law of Christ
--------------------------

In the New Testament, many mentions of “the law” is actually referring to Law of Christ (aka the Law of Liberty) and is not talking about the old testament law. Christians are NOT called to keep or live under the old testament law, but we ARE called to live under the Law of Christ.

Ultimately this means we are called to abide In Christ which is living after the Spirit and not after the flesh, or to be spiritually minded and not carnally minded (see Romans 8). As we see in Romans 8, to be spiritually minded is life and peace but to be carnally minded is death which is separation from the Lord.

Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:21
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
*Free as in no longer being a slave to sin, as in stop doing sinful things!

2 Peter 1:4-10
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. (*Notice what Paul said about his own body in 1 Corinthians 9:27)

Colossians 3:6-10
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Those that do not put on the New Man and quit walking after the flesh, the wrath of God comes upon them for their disobedience because God is NOT mocked, if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption (Gal 6:7,8) 2

Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Things end very badly for those that do not obey the gospel.

Romans 11:19-25
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Law of Christ
The phrase "the law of Christ" appears only in Galatians 6:2, although it is implied by the wording of 1 Corinthians 9:21 as well. In both places, its precise meaning is difficult to fix. In Galatians, Paul argues vigorously that the law given at Sinai makes no claim on those who believe in Christ, whether Gentile or Jew ( 2:15-21 ; Galatians 3:10-14 Galatians 3:23-26 ; 4:4-5 ; 4:21-5:6).

He then appeals to the Galatians to engage in ethical behavior by walking in the Spirit ( 5:16 Galatians 16 ), being lead by the Spirit ( 5:18 ), and fulfilling "the law of Christ" (ho nomos tou Christou) through bearing one another's burdens ( 6:2 ). In 1 Corinthians 9 Paul demonstrates how Christians should, out of love for the weaker brother or sister, refrain from demanding their rights.

By way of illustration Paul says in verses 19-23 that he adopts certain Jewish customs when among Jews, although he is not under the Jewish law, and that he adopts some Gentile customs when among Gentiles, although he is not without the law of God but rather "in the law of Christ" (ennomos Christou).

It seems fairly clear from these two texts that Paul uses the phrase to mean something other than the law given to Israel at Sinai and considered by most Jews to be their special possession.

Help is found in the prophets. In Isaiah 42:1-4 we read that God's chosen servant will one day establish justice throughout the earth and that "the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law" (NASB). If we take this passage to refer to the Messiah, then we could paraphrase it by saying that the Christ, when he comes, will teach God's law to the Gentiles ("the coastlands"). Jeremiah 31:31-34 similarly predicts the coming of a time in which disobedient Israel will receive a new covenant, consisting of a law written on the heart and therefore obeyed (cf. Ezek 36:26-27 ).

Jesus' teaching, although standing in continuity with the law given at Sinai, nevertheless sovereignly fashions a new law. In some instances Jesus sharpens commandments ( Matt 5:17-48 ) and in others considers them obsolete ( Mark 7:17-19 ). On one occasion, having been asked to identify the greatest commandment, Jesus concurs with the Jewish wisdom of his time ( Mark 12:32-33 ) that the greatest commandments are to love God supremely and to love one's neighbor as oneself ( Mark 12:28-31 ). He breaks with tradition, however, by defining the term "neighbor" to mean even the despised Samaritan ( Luke 10:29-37 ).

Paul believed that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ marked the beginning point of God's new covenant ( 2 Cor 3:1-18 ; Gal 4:21-31 ; cf. Rom 8:2 ). Like Isaiah, he believed that this covenant included the Gentiles ( Gal 3:7-20 ), and like Jeremiah he believed that it offered Israel a remedy for the curse that the old Sinaitic covenant pronounced on Israel's disobedience ( Gal 3:10-13 ).

In light of this, Paul understood the teaching of Christ as a new law. If so, then the correspondence between the ethical teaching of Jesus and Paul on many points (e.g., 1 Cor 7:10-11 / Mark 10:2-9 ; 1 Cor 9:14 / Luke 10:7 ; Rom 14:1-23 / Mark 7:18-19 ) is a matter of Paul's intention rather than happy accident. Paul's own admonition to fulfill the law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens provides both a pithy restatement of Jesus' summary of the law and an indication that Jesus' teaching fulfills prophetic expectations.

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You just can't learn anything.

WHY are you quoting satan?

That's a lie of satan because she absolutely can learn all that the Holy Spirit has to teach her!

Dude you aren't much of a teacher

If an elder has a contentious spirit, the people will inevitably become contentious. So, a man with a contentious disposition is not qualified for eldership — even if he has the greatest teaching gift in the world (1 Timothy 3:3, Titus 1:7).

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Many will say ...but Lord, Lord, you "imputed" Your righteousness to me...I know because I placed myself in the bible narrative... but Jesus will say, go away, you who practice lawlessness and iniquity...why didn't you heed My warnings???

What lawlessness is she practicing?

Not bowing down to your heavy shepherding does not count as lawlessness

 

[Episkopos]

Maybe you did not do a good job teaching we are now under the Law of Christ as New Covenant believers.

The law of Christ is not meant to be compared to the law of Moses. The law of Christ is compared to the law of sin and death. The comparison to OT law is based solely on holiness. The temple holiness is done away with in Christ. There is no more sacrifice for sins that purify the sons of the kingdom. Only the blood of Christ actually cleanses a person from sin. Only His life replaces our life. Only His power gives us victory over sin.

Most modern religious dogmas confuse the issue by making people lawless. Such avoid holiness altogether and claim an "imputed" righteousness that they bestow on themselves claiming it to be equal with God.

Even the Pharisees would condemn such arrogance.
The law of righteousness is NOT done away with in Christ. It is upheld since Jesus is BOTH God AND man. People forget that and treat Jesus as a kind of religious idol that doesn't need to be obeyed or emulated. They forget to follow Him as their Master.

Did you explain that Jesus fulfilled thee OT law by keeping it perfectly (satisfying the Father) and then He did away the first covenant, that he may establish the second? And explain that Jesus is now High Priest and Moses is not?

Jesus was resurrected to empower us by grace to fulfill the law of God through faith.

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. (God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Priesthood has to do with holiness not righteousness.

 

[Episkopos]

WHY are you quoting satan?

That's a lie of satan because she absolutely can learn all that the Holy Spirit has to teach her!

Dude you aren't much of a teacher

If an elder has a contentious spirit, the people will inevitably become contentious. So, a man with a contentious disposition is not qualified for eldership — even if he has the greatest teaching gift in the world (1 Timothy 3:3, Titus 1:7).

Such hostility. You are just a troll on this thread. Your own arrogance and inability to learn doesn't give you the power of discernment. Your attitude and behaviour speaks for itself.

 

[Episkopos]

The Law of Christ
--------------------------

In the New Testament, many mentions of “the law” is actually referring to Law of Christ (aka the Law of Liberty) and is not talking about the old testament law. Christians are NOT called to keep or live under the old testament law, but we ARE called to live under the Law of Christ.

Ultimately this means we are called to abide In Christ which is living after the Spirit and not after the flesh, or to be spiritually minded and not carnally minded (see Romans 8). As we see in Romans 8, to be spiritually minded is life and peace but to be carnally minded is death which is separation from the Lord.

Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:21
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
*Free as in no longer being a slave to sin, as in stop doing sinful things!

2 Peter 1:4-10
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. (*Notice what Paul said about his own body in 1 Corinthians 9:27)

Colossians 3:6-10
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Those that do not put on the New Man and quit walking after the flesh, the wrath of God comes upon them for their disobedience because God is NOT mocked, if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption (Gal 6:7,8) 2

Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Things end very badly for those that do not obey the gospel.

Romans 11:19-25
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Law of Christ
The phrase "the law of Christ" appears only in Galatians 6:2, although it is implied by the wording of 1 Corinthians 9:21 as well. In both places, its precise meaning is difficult to fix. In Galatians, Paul argues vigorously that the law given at Sinai makes no claim on those who believe in Christ, whether Gentile or Jew ( 2:15-21 ; Galatians 3:10-14 Galatians 3:23-26 ; 4:4-5 ; 4:21-5:6).

He then appeals to the Galatians to engage in ethical behavior by walking in the Spirit ( 5:16 Galatians 16 ), being lead by the Spirit ( 5:18 ), and fulfilling "the law of Christ" (ho nomos tou Christou) through bearing one another's burdens ( 6:2 ). In 1 Corinthians 9 Paul demonstrates how Christians should, out of love for the weaker brother or sister, refrain from demanding their rights.

By way of illustration Paul says in verses 19-23 that he adopts certain Jewish customs when among Jews, although he is not under the Jewish law, and that he adopts some Gentile customs when among Gentiles, although he is not without the law of God but rather "in the law of Christ" (ennomos Christou).

It seems fairly clear from these two texts that Paul uses the phrase to mean something other than the law given to Israel at Sinai and considered by most Jews to be their special possession.

Help is found in the prophets. In Isaiah 42:1-4 we read that God's chosen servant will one day establish justice throughout the earth and that "the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law" (NASB). If we take this passage to refer to the Messiah, then we could paraphrase it by saying that the Christ, when he comes, will teach God's law to the Gentiles ("the coastlands"). Jeremiah 31:31-34 similarly predicts the coming of a time in which disobedient Israel will receive a new covenant, consisting of a law written on the heart and therefore obeyed (cf. Ezek 36:26-27 ).

Jesus' teaching, although standing in continuity with the law given at Sinai, nevertheless sovereignly fashions a new law. In some instances Jesus sharpens commandments ( Matt 5:17-48 ) and in others considers them obsolete ( Mark 7:17-19 ). On one occasion, having been asked to identify the greatest commandment, Jesus concurs with the Jewish wisdom of his time ( Mark 12:32-33 ) that the greatest commandments are to love God supremely and to love one's neighbor as oneself ( Mark 12:28-31 ). He breaks with tradition, however, by defining the term "neighbor" to mean even the despised Samaritan ( Luke 10:29-37 ).

Paul believed that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ marked the beginning point of God's new covenant ( 2 Cor 3:1-18 ; Gal 4:21-31 ; cf. Rom 8:2 ). Like Isaiah, he believed that this covenant included the Gentiles ( Gal 3:7-20 ), and like Jeremiah he believed that it offered Israel a remedy for the curse that the old Sinaitic covenant pronounced on Israel's disobedience ( Gal 3:10-13 ).

In light of this, Paul understood the teaching of Christ as a new law. If so, then the correspondence between the ethical teaching of Jesus and Paul on many points (e.g., 1 Cor 7:10-11 / Mark 10:2-9 ; 1 Cor 9:14 / Luke 10:7 ; Rom 14:1-23 / Mark 7:18-19 ) is a matter of Paul's intention rather than happy accident. Paul's own admonition to fulfill the law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens provides both a pithy restatement of Jesus' summary of the law and an indication that Jesus' teaching fulfills prophetic expectations.

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

This is confusion and obfuscation of the narrative. You already have the destination that you desire, then try twisting the bible to make is seem that the bible backs up your claims.

Let not many be teachers.

I see why you are so hostile to my own teaching which is in truth. You, like so many, are unable to hear sound doctrine. Just as prophesied in the bible. So you are indeed lining up with the bible, just not the way you think.