Again, you are still trying to make Romans 5 say something Paul does not say. Paul writes, “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life” (Romans 5:9-10).
That is plain. Paul says we are justified by His blood, reconciled to God by His death, and saved by His life. You are taking the last statement and using it to redefine the first two. Paul does not say “justified by His life blood.” He says “justified by his blood,” then immediately connects reconciliation with “the death of his Son.”
You also keep saying Romans 5:10 is about the world being reconciled to God. That is not what the verse says. Paul says, “when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son.” The subject is “we,” the people he is addressing. You are inserting “the world” into Romans 5:10.
Yes, 2 Corinthians 5:19 says God was in Christ “reconciling the world unto himself.” I am not denying that. But even there Paul immediately says, “be ye reconciled to God” in verse 20. So you cannot turn the statement about the world into universal personal justification or salvation. The provision is there in Christ, but the saving benefit is received by those who are reconciled to God through faith.
Your argument from Hebrews does not prove your distinction either. Yes, Hebrews 9 is contrasting Christ’s sacrifice with the sacrifices under the law. But Hebrews does not say Christ’s shed blood concerns only some corporate category of holiness and not personal forgiveness or redemption. Hebrews 9:12 says Christ entered by His own blood, “having obtained eternal redemption for us.” Verse 14 says His blood purges the conscience from dead works. Verse 15 speaks of “the redemption of the transgressions.” Verse 26 says He appeared “to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.” Hebrews 10:18 then says, “Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.”
So this separation you are making between Christ’s blood for “holiness” and His life for “justification” is not coming from Hebrews. You are bringing that distinction to the text and then forcing the text to fit it.
You also said, “We will each be judged for justification based on what we did.” Paul directly answers that in Romans 4:5: “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”
Yes, Scripture teaches judgment according to works. That does not mean works become the basis of justification before God. Those are not the same thing. Works reveal and demonstrate. They do not become the ground upon which God justifies the ungodly.
And “justification of life” in Romans 5:18 does not mean “justification by resurrection life.” The verse says, “by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.” You are changing “of life” into “by life,” while ignoring that Paul has already said in verse 9 that we are “justified by his blood.”
The distinction between Christ’s death and resurrection is biblical. The conclusion you are drawing from that distinction is not. Christ’s resurrection life is essential, but Paul never uses it to cancel his own statement that we are justified by Christ’s blood and reconciled to God by His death.
And calling me unlearned, dishonest, carnal, or unqualified to comment on the Bible does not answer the text. I have given you the words of Paul. You keep replacing them with your own categories.
At this point, this is not just a minor disagreement over wording. You are teaching that Christ’s shed blood does not justify the believer, that justification is based on what a person does, and that Paul’s plain words must be redefined to fit your system. That is false teaching. A man who persists in teaching contrary to the plain words of Scripture is not qualified to present himself as a teacher of biblical truth on a Christian forum.
I do pray that you repent and read what the Bible actually says instead of forcing these passages into your own system. Let us stay with what is written. We are justified by His blood, reconciled by His death, and saved by His life. That is what Romans 5:9-10 says.
