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Putin to limit energy supplies to unfriendly Western states (freewestmedia.com)

Which only hurts for example unfriendly European countries , not Russia. European nations that actually hate buying energy from Russia, have no way to replace it, are dooming themselves. What it really means, the ordinary people living there will suffer, none of the elite leaders will. An economy can only survive so long on ideology and speeches.
 

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Putin to limit energy supplies to unfriendly Western states (freewestmedia.com)

Which only hurts for example unfriendly European countries , not Russia. European nations that actually hate buying energy from Russia, have no way to replace it, are dooming themselves. What it really means, the ordinary people living there will suffer, none of the elite leaders will. An economy can only survive so long on ideology and speeches.

that can turn around in less than a month!

And with Russia not being able to access SWIFT, those sales won't help them.

These nations will have to sell their dollars to Russia to buy Rubles and then Russia can do nothing with those dollars! The west has all but ended all trade with Russia except fuels, and if Russia cuts that off it will hurt Russia as much as the West.

The african nations mostly get their fuels from the middle east so Russian sales will be minimal. China is the only nation to have any real impact on russian sales and their economy is craching badly and it still won't make up the shortfall in revenue is Putin cuts the West off!
 

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Let me ask you a serious question.

As you seem to loathe most things American and European, what is your solution?

Let Putin take Ukraine?
As He has publicly stated restoring Russian greatness, Also take Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states wit no problem?
should we allow a bully to blackmail becuase He has something we want?
Should we tell Finland and Norway who have taken the unprecedented steps of ending neutrality because of Putin's butchery, no you can't join NATO?

Seriusly- what is your answer to his naked aggression?
 

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Let me ask you a serious question.

As you seem to loathe most things American and European, what is your solution?

Let Putin take Ukraine?
As He has publicly stated restoring Russian greatness, Also take Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states wit no problem?
should we allow a bully to blackmail becuase He has something we want?
Should we tell Finland and Norway who have taken the unprecedented steps of ending neutrality because of Putin's butchery, no you can't join NATO?

Seriusly- what is your answer to his naked aggression?
The only point being, is that if Russia is worried about another Nation who is threating them ? that such becomes an issue.

Biden is the one who went and kicked off this war in Ukraine in fact and is driving it on and on and will do so until Ukraine is totally destroyed, does Biden have a hatred for the Ukraine people, just as Communist Russia had for the people of Ukraine before WW2 ? where 10 to 20 million were starved to death ? and the UK etc did nothing !
Why does Biden desperately want all of Ukraine destroyed ?
 

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Crude Oil Shoots Higher as Germany Drops Opposition to Russian Embargo (yahoo.com)
Bad news for the price of oil, it goes up.
Germany drops opposition to a complete ban on Russian liquid fuels. Bye-Bye European business and industrial production if it happens
Fits right in with the Great Reset, they want energy poverty for their people. Europe is going to become self-inflicted wreckage.
If they ban Russian oil products, they have to replace 2 million barrels a day just for themselves, which puts more buy pressure on our oil, so that means since Biden is crushing oil production here, higher prices for us.
 
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The only point being, is that if Russia is worried about another Nation who is threating them ? that such becomes an issue.

Biden is the one who went and kicked off this war in Ukraine in fact and is driving it on and on and will do so until Ukraine is totally destroyed, does Biden have a hatred for the Ukraine people, just as Communist Russia had for the people of Ukraine before WW2 ? where 10 to 20 million were starved to death ? and the UK etc did nothing !
Why does Biden desperately want all of Ukraine destroyed ?
Maybe to cover up his influence peddling for cash payments from Ukraine to himself.
 

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Crude Oil Shoots Higher as Germany Drops Opposition to Russian Embargo (yahoo.com)
Bad news for the price of oil, it goes up.
Germany drops opposition to a complete ban on Russian liquid fuels. Bye-Bye European business and industrial production if it happens
Fits right in with the Great Reset, they want energy poverty for their people. Europe is going to become self-inflicted wreckage.
If they ban Russian oil products, they have to replace 2 million barrels a day just for themselves, which puts more buy pressure on our oil, so that means since Biden is crushing oil production here, higher prices for us.


Why should you care??? they are evil people to you and are just getting what they deserve!

You knwo it is sad really.

If you and APK wish to starft a thread on how corrupt the West has become, I would agree with you guys 100%

But both of yo utake it to teh extremem to the point that RT and fringe you tubers are more reliable to you than all teh Western Media in every way, shape or form.

I know Western Media is very biased! But it is not what they report on (unless s they withhold news because of bias) but how they report on the news they show.

america is probably from divine viewpoint the most evil nation on earth! Why? Because we had teh greatest light of the gospel shone on us and have fallen further from the truth than any other nation!

But that doesn't make every decision and every action wrong!

Russia illegally invaded Ukraine just like they illegally did in 2014 and stole the Crimea and armed the Donbas insurgents andinvaded Goergia and gassed the Chechnyans! Just like their Father, the Soviet Union did to Eastern Europe and built teh Itron Curtain to keep people imprisoned!

People are free still to protest in the West. Over 5,000 Russians were arrests and or beaten for protesting Putins War!

It is so ironic that Russians have to get news from the west to find out about teh war and here are two westerners going to Russia to accept what they say about the war!
 

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European nations that actually hate buying energy from Russia, have no way to replace it, are dooming themselves.
European nations had plenty of options to avoid buying oil and gas from Russia. But they were too stupid to do what is right for their citizens, and to also see that Russia will always be at war with the West. Now America and Canada have become just as stupid, and the only countries benefiting from all this stupidity are China and India (which do not give a hoot about "Climate Change" and "the Green Agenda" -- both of which are bogus agendas).

You cannot blame Russia for cutting off oil and gas supplies to "unfriendly nations". But you can certainly blame the Biden administration and NATO for making a mess of the war in Ukraine. This war could easily have been avoided if there was a serious and sane government in America (which also did not shut down its own sources of oil, and go to Russia instead, and shovel billions of dollars to Putin). Now it is pure insanity to be funneling billions of dollars to Ukraine when America is already in serious financial trouble. So Biden and his gang of thugs just keep piling foolishness on top of foolishness so that America is totally devastated. The end game is to impoverish America and make it into a third world country, with absolutely no benefit to anyone other than a few globalists at the top.
 

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We will own nothing and be happy. Where's my tinfoil hat.
Even people like Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand see what's going on.
Musk gets Twitter and Biden reveals the ministry of truth.
As long as the globalist far-left is in control, we are the bad guys.
No matter how far some have their heads stuck up their butts.
 
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Russia to limit energy sails to unfriendly nations.
will doubling up on the wind help?
 

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European nations had plenty of options to avoid buying oil and gas from Russia. But they were too stupid to do what is right for their citizens, and to also see that Russia will always be at war with the West. Now America and Canada have become just as stupid, and the only countries benefiting from all this stupidity are China and India (which do not give a hoot about "Climate Change" and "the Green Agenda" -- both of which are bogus agendas).

You cannot blame Russia for cutting off oil and gas supplies to "unfriendly nations". But you can certainly blame the Biden administration and NATO for making a mess of the war in Ukraine. This war could easily have been avoided if there was a serious and sane government in America (which also did not shut down its own sources of oil, and go to Russia instead, and shovel billions of dollars to Putin). Now it is pure insanity to be funneling billions of dollars to Ukraine when America is already in serious financial trouble. So Biden and his gang of thugs just keep piling foolishness on top of foolishness so that America is totally devastated. The end game is to impoverish America and make it into a third world country, with absolutely no benefit to anyone other than a few globalists at the top.

Absolutely! they went for teh easy and cheaper way to go and now it is costing them dearly either in reputation or cash!

And pray tell how could America have prevented Putin illegally invading Ukraine?

God is in the midst of judging America and the West. We are the most evil nations for we has greater light of the gospel and as nations have turned our back. I believe we have not seen the worst yet.
 

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And pray tell how could America have prevented Putin illegally invading Ukraine?
Simple. Had there been a genuine president in the White House, he would have personally met with Vladimir Putin on neutral ground (outside Europe or America) long before the end of 2021 and tried to work out an amicable plan for future relations between the USA and The Russian Federation.

He could have gone as far as signing a comprehensive treaty with Russia which would ensure that Russia would never be attacked by the USA or NATO on a first strike basis, and in turn none of the former Soviet satellites (including Ukraine) would be attacked by Russia. He could even have included a trade agreement within that treaty which would be mutually beneficial. He could even have asked for Russia to stay out of Syria (with the proper incentives), and focus on its own people.
 
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Simple. Had there been a genuine president in the White House, he would have personally met with Vladimir Putin on neutral ground (outside Europe or America) long before the end of 2021 and tried to work out an amicable plan for future relations between the USA and The Russian Federation.

He could have gone as far as signing a comprehensive treaty with Russia which would ensure that Russia would never be attacked by the USA or NATO on a first strike basis, and in turn none of the former Soviet satellites (including Ukraine) would be attacked by Russia. He could even have included a trade agreement within that treaty which would be mutually beneficial. He could even have asked for Russia to stay out of Syria (with the proper incentives), and focus on its own people.


Well NATO has on record a no attack policy or a no first strike!

We have has several trade agreements with Russia already!

Long before 2021 Russia invaded Georgia, stole the Crimea, Armed the insurgents with heavy weaponry in the Donbas and gassed the chechnyans. You really believe Putin would hold to a piece of paper???

With the porper incentives??? We have to bribe Putin to stop murdering Syrians?????????????????????