Russian-Ukraine War: The West's Fault

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Hidden In Him

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Hi Hidden
Could you clarify for me what you believe the globalist plan to be?
I don't understand about this war too much and am keeping put of the discussion, I agree with both you and @Ziggy ,,,,if that could be possible.

Good morning, sister, and sorry for never responding to your previous post. I'm still poking around a little here and there, so let me at least address this one.

Different people would define the Globalist plan in different ways, depending on their spiritual make up. I regard the Globalist plan to be synonymous with the Satanist plan, which is why I often make reference to both in the same sentence. In short, the ultimate plan of the Satanists is to create a world of masters and slaves, where they rule the entire planet, and where mind control and SRA are used to make sure the masses are trained to respond with perfect obedience. To this end, they are working to bring about the reign of the Antichrist on earth; a world ruler empowered by the Devil, who will eradicate all semblance of Christian morality and Christian religion from this planet. Some argue that the empire the Antichrist will rule over will one day be the European Union, but I do not. I believe the Antichrist will be Muslim, and rule over the prophesied Islamic Caliphate they say is coming; a world empire subservient to a man that Islamic prophecy calls the Mahdi. I believe the Satanists intend to use Islam as a means to annihilate both Christians and Jews when the time of the Mahdi finally comes.

As to how this all relates to the present situation, the Globalists want to weaken and destabilize the nations as much as possible in preparation for it, in particular by destroying the world economy. Russia and the nations in the West - the entire planet in fact - will suffer financially as a result of this war, because in the aftermath of Covid-19, soaring energy prices will cripple the world's economy even further.

Discussing the New World Order and Globalist plans is an extremely involved discussion, and many would list a whole host of things I haven't mentioned above. But at the heart of it, they are simply working towards the elimination of Christianity and the establishment of a one world government under a Satanist ideology and Satanist rule; an empire run by and belonging completely to those who worship the god of this world.
 

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Good morning, sister, and sorry for never responding to your previous post. I'm still poking around a little here and there, so let me at least address this one.

Different people would define the Globalist plan in different ways, depending on their spiritual make up. I regard the Globalist plan to be synonymous with the Satanist plan, which is why I often make reference to both in the same sentence. In short, the ultimate plan of the Satanists is to create a world of masters and slaves, where they rule the entire planet, and where mind control and SRA are used to make sure the masses are trained to respond with perfect obedience. To this end, they are working to bring about the reign of the Antichrist on earth; a world ruler empowered by the Devil, who will eradicate all semblance of Christian morality and Christian religion from this planet. Some argue that the empire the Antichrist will rule over will one day be the European Union, but I do not. I believe the Antichrist will be Muslim, and rule over the prophesied Islamic Caliphate they say is coming; a world empire subservient to a man that Islamic prophecy calls the Mahdi. I believe the Satanists intend to use Islam as a means to annihilate both Christians and Jews when the time of the Mahdi finally comes.

As to how this all relates to the present situation, the Globalists want to weaken and destabilize the nations as much as possible in preparation for it, in particular by destroying the world economy. Russia and the nations in the West - the entire planet in fact - will suffer financially as a result of this war, because in the aftermath of Covid-19, soaring energy prices will cripple the world's economy even further.

Discussing the New World Order and Globalist plans is an extremely involved discussion, and many would list a whole host of things I haven't mentioned above. But at the heart of it, they are simply working towards the elimination of Christianity and the establishment of a one world government under a Satanist ideology and Satanist rule; an empire run by and belonging completely to those who worship the god of this world.
That's the Devil's side and I fully agree.

Then there's God's Plan.
The whole world has become Babylon. And we are standing on the fringes watching it burn itself down.
We are watching the Redemption Plan happening.
And We will suffer with Him.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Jos 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Praise the Lord!
God Bless
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The progressive socialist LEFT has been feeling it's way forward for untold years to try to put into place it's plans for the the governing of the world. And they have been restrained, but they always regroup and attack another way. The names change but the evil ruling demonic powers dont. It is a good thing God is restraining evil powers, and also a good thing that you who believe had been chosen by God from the beginning of time to be His people, v13-17.

You know the meek shall inherit the earth. The violent will not. At Genesis 6, the earth was filled with violence and God brought an end to that world in the time of Noah. Now the warning from Christ is the time of the end of our current evil age will be like the time of Noah, so violence and maybe the Nephilim return before the great and terrible Day of the Lord takes them all out again.

Example in scripture of that here
2 Thessalonians 2
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The Great Apostasy
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Stand Fast
13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work.
 
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9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

What if we can't see the lawless one, because our eyes are focused on Truth?
God sends THEM strong delusion, that THEY should believe the lie.
Are we waiting to SEE the lawless one? And if only those that are deceived believe the lie, will we even recognize the lie?

You know what I mean?
If our sight is focused on the Lord, then the lawless one, the lie will be on the outskirts of our vision.

Yeah,
Yea though I walk through the valley of the SHADOW of death, I shall fear no evil. For thou art with me.

Are we walking through shadows?

Paul says that all those things that happened before were shadows of things to come.
Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

I believe the world we live in is due to our perception. We still live in a carnal world. Because we percieve carniality.
And yet we know that everything that exists is made of of atoms and space.
We should be able to walk through walls, and walk on water. But our perception keeps us bound.

Yeah, I know, this is out there... new agey whateverism..

But if we're not looking for or at the deception,

What does this mean:
Deu 29:2 And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Ye have seen all that the LORD did before your eyes in the land of Egypt unto Pharaoh, and unto all his servants, and unto all his land;
Deu 29:3 The great temptations which thine eyes have seen, the signs, and those great miracles:

Deu 29:4 Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.

Yeah, all of Deutteronomy chapter 29 is about walking through....

Deu 29:16 (For ye know how we have dwelt in the land of Egypt; and how we came through the nations which ye passed by;
Deu 29:17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them: )
Deu 29:18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I need to eat breakfast before dinner gets here.
Just thinking..
Hugs
 

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Below are some articles on why drone use is the new face of war, and what those currently in Ukraine's arsenal are fully capable of.
God bless.
- H

The use of these drones en masse creates an offense-defense imbalance where the attacker has a distinct advantage in terms of cost and risk. And the more drones that an attacker can employ simultaneously, the harder this becomes for the defender. Despite soothing assurances that short-range air defense systems are on their way, even the most sophisticated of such systems are unlikely to keep pace to counter the proliferation of expendable but increasingly sophisticated drones...

The TB2 is a “blue collar drone”: inexpensive enough for mass production and thus expendable. Mass production gives it the capability to be employed in swarms designed to overwhelm the target acquisition process of any adversary. And yet, the TB2 is also remarkably sophisticated. In addition to providing identification and targeting data from high-resolution onboard systems that can include a signal’s intelligence capability, the platform carries smart, micro-guided munitions that kill multiple targets autonomously and simultaneously...

In engagements over Syria and Libya, as well as the one in Nagorno-Karabakh, the TB2 alone demonstrated the ability to successfully challenge the most advanced IADS that nations can muster. Systems such as the S-300PS, Buk-M2, Tor-M2, and Pantsir-S1 — used in conjunction with electronic warfare systems such as the Avtobaza-M, Repellent-1, Borisoglebsk 2, and Groza-S — are designed to deny airspace to the latest generation of Western strike aircraft. None of these systems proved capable of stopping the TB2 — a revelation that Russian manufacturers still try to deny, even when their claims are refuted by high-resolution full-motion video from no less than three conflicts. The fact that a relatively light and inexpensive drone can not only evade but actively search out and destroy such systems while incurring few losses represents an evolutionary leap in the employment of air power and a tectonic shift in the conduct of modern war.

The New Face of War: Devastating Drone Attacks in Ukraine Have Implications for the US Military in the Middle East

Articles on other deadly drones currently in use by the Ukrainians:
Ukraine's army is using a nimble 'game-changing' drone called The Punisher that has completed scores of successful missions against the Russians, say reports
Ukraine receives more armed drones amid Russian invasion
Ukraine's small combat drone "The Punisher" destroys Russian supply lines

The Pentagon just placed orders for Switchblade 600 "kamikaze" drones to be sent to the Ukraine on top of the 100 Switchblade 300s already sent last month. The use of drones is why there has been a much higher than average number of generals and commanders in the Russian army killed. Their deaths are specifically attributable to drones, which unlike artillery or missile attacks can hover over the battlefield for an extended period of time, analyzing targets before selecting the one the controller wants to take out. When used in combination with drones equipped with communication intercepting technology (IMSI catchers), the operators can figure out who the unit commanders are based on unit movement, by matching unit to unit communication with how units are reacting to orders.

Most frontline commanders are now in tanks rather than lighter armored vehicles, in part because the smaller drone systems cannot pierce heavy armor. But the latest 600 models the Pentagon is now sending can cover twice the distance, hover over target three times longer, and are specifically designed to be tank destroyers. Better put, they are unit commander killers.

The ability to specifically target and take out unit leaders presents immense problems militarily. It diminishes effectiveness in the field by effecting chain of command, communication, morale, everything. As the following report states regarding the development of drone warfare currently going on in Ukraine, "What we are watching is no less than the real time evolution of warfare."

 
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LOL, my wife had a dream about Ukraine war. Perry Mason was trying to get into the country to help... but he was not allowed to enter.


I didn't pay attention to this at the time, but in hindsight it is pretty easy to make out. Perry Mason was an investigator, which means the dream likely suggests that the powers that be would try to prevent the real story from getting out. As you know, accurate unbiased reporting from the front lines has been limited, and only privately funded investigators like Patrick Lancaster appear to have been actually providing any. But the real story is increasingly coming out now. Jacques Baud is a former senior United Nations official and former NATO advisor who spent years in Ukraine on their behalf, so I can't think of anyone who would be more in a position to accurately say what's going on there, and he is revealing now just what this thread contended from the beginning: That the war was instigated by the West from the beginning.

The following video by Kim Iverson actually explains things more succinctly, but I'll include a televised interview with Baud himself below just in case you want to verify it (click on the link at the end. The video is included in it). It will confirm these are indeed the contentions he is now making public.

I'm heading out, but just thought I'd share this with you in parting.
God bless,
- H


Former NATO adviser Jacques Baud: "US, EU sacrificing Ukraine to ‘weaken Russia’"

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As the Russia-Ukraine war enters a new phase, former Swiss intelligence officer, senior United Nations official, and NATO advisor Jacques Baud analyzes the conflict and argues that the US and its allies are exploiting Ukraine in a longstanding campaign to bleed its Russian neighbor.

Guest: Jacques Baud. Former intelligence officer with the Swiss Strategic Intelligence Service who has served in a number of senior security and advisory positions at NATO, the United Nations, and with the Swiss military.
fmr. NATO adviser Jacques Baud: US, EU sacrificing Ukraine to 'weaken Russia':


Also, if you want to read it, here is Jacques Baud’s full article on the Ukraine war: https://www.thepostil.com/the-militar…
 
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LOL, my wife had a dream about Ukraine war. Perry Mason was trying to get into the country to help... but he was not allowed to enter.

I also found this of interest, from the Wiki on Perry Mason

Perry Mason is a fictional character, an American criminal defense lawyer who is the main character in works of detective fiction written by Erle Stanley Gardner. Perry Mason features in 82 novels and 4 short stories, all of which involve a client being charged with murder, usually involving a preliminary hearing or jury trial. Typically, Mason establishes his client's innocence by finding the real murderer.
Perry Mason - Wikipedia

In other words, the Lord was trying to tell your wife through the dream that the real murderers weren't the Russians. They have only been set up to look like it.
 

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I got completely tired of the mindless drivel coming from Western media outlets, including the worthless BBC, so I decided to go searching for some semblance of an accurate analysis of what is actually going on in the Ukraine and why. Found this. Thought it was worth posting for those not yet so brainwashed that they can still think for themselves. Written eight years ago, and more accurate than anything you will ever hear anyone in the controlled media give you these days on the subject:


You can get all your pro Russian, anti American talking heads saying this is the wests fault and it still smells like a cow barn!

Itmatter not if the Crimean and Donbas people voted 100% to secede from Ukraine, they are part of Ukraine! Unless of course you believe that teh south should have been allowed to secede from America! If not all you are is a hypocrite playing selective games of secession.

Putin armed the rebels in the Donbas with advanced weapons and sent in speztnas troops, so that insurgency was stoked by Putin.

He simply stole the Crimea.
He stole Georgia
He gassed Chechnya
He gassed Syria
and now he has put in Charge of His illegal invasion of the Ukraine- teh Butcher of Syria.

Russia has killed tens of thousands of civilians.
Russia has destroyed tens of thousands of homes and worksites.
Russia has caused the breadbasket of Europe to not be able to plant this year!
All the videos and cell phone videos show the atrocities Russia has committed and testify against you!

all you put out is pro Russian people saying without evidence that Ukraine has committed atrocities.
The testimony of thousands of survivors in towns taken back from Russia condemn your belief about this war!
The testimony of hundreds of thousands of refugees who0 fled Ukraine to live condemn your belief about this war!

Putin has destroyed the Ukraine and wrecked the Russian economy! He will be condemned as a war criminal and never be able to leave Russia!
 

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You can get all your pro Russian, anti American talking heads saying this is the wests fault and it still smells like a cow barn!

Itmatter not if the Crimean and Donbas people voted 100% to secede from Ukraine, they are part of Ukraine! Unless of course you believe that teh south should have been allowed to secede from America! If not all you are is a hypocrite playing selective games of secession.

Putin armed the rebels in the Donbas with advanced weapons and sent in speztnas troops, so that insurgency was stoked by Putin.

He simply stole the Crimea.
He stole Georgia
He gassed Chechnya
He gassed Syria
and now he has put in Charge of His illegal invasion of the Ukraine- teh Butcher of Syria.

Russia has killed tens of thousands of civilians.
Russia has destroyed tens of thousands of homes and worksites.
Russia has caused the breadbasket of Europe to not be able to plant this year!
All the videos and cell phone videos show the atrocities Russia has committed and testify against you!

all you put out is pro Russian people saying without evidence that Ukraine has committed atrocities.
The testimony of thousands of survivors in towns taken back from Russia condemn your belief about this war!
The testimony of hundreds of thousands of refugees who0 fled Ukraine to live condemn your belief about this war!

Putin has destroyed the Ukraine and wrecked the Russian economy! He will be condemned as a war criminal and never be able to leave Russia!
If you bother to look more deeply into the whole story you will fined that the fault is with Biden and the moron Ukraine Government's fault.

You may bother to look into why Russia has to defend Crimea story in fact and not to mention Russia will never let it's Military Base down their be compromised ever ! come Hell or high water ! it's a fact ! and WW3 will come if any idiot moron thinks that Russia is just going to let such go !
Ok our MSM are not informing the world of the facts of the reality, but some of us are old enough to know why it is so. because we remember what this point is all about. and the younger or ignorant do not, because they do not have a clue at all, they do not know because they have not been told.
So get out of Ukraine or else ! anyone who pushes for Ukraine is a total moron who may get what they wish for :rolleyes: WW3 ! because that's what you could get and it's not some little trash War like WW2 rubbish playing stupid little games.

Remember the USA was so scared of Russia in the 60's such a war in the 60's would of been Hellfire to be in, much more so than WW2 rubbish, and now the MSM play this out to be nothing nowadays :rolleyes: Oh we will just go to war with Russia, like as if it's no big deal ? :rolleyes: the USA etc could take on Russia ? but hang on how long has the USA and all the rest been out in the Arab world fighting against a backwards 3rd world and could not win jack ! the whole War on the Arabs has been a fail and so costly that it's so embarrassing and now a War against Russia is on the cards !
Not to mention our Australian Head of Defence Force, who is a queer inbreed total moron has tried his best to paint everyone in our SAS in the worse light that one could, he is kicking everyone around in our SAS treating them like dogs in fact ! and he gets away with it ! :mad: the issues that he is on about is total #^*!# everything that he is on about is totally moronic and his total hatred of Australians in the ADF is clearly on record.
He is all about Gender equality and Political Correctness, it's a big issue to a total degenerate fool like him ! and no Aussie men need not apply only women and Arabs have a open door to get in and it just goes on and on with total moron nonsense.
It's our ADF people who had to deal with mutts like him, that caused all the problems for they who served and any problems otherwise is due to the tops lack of regard of them.
The top ranks are rotten to the core. Mutts ! no one could be so ignorant or stupid.
 

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Russian-Ukraine War: The West's Fault?
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