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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, G2963 or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

government.. shall be upon his shoulder...

politics and religion always go hand in hand..
just no escaping it..
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True....Kingdom of God has laws and an order of how He established it to abide within....this is a governing of the inhabitants of His kingdom....so in essence a government established and ruled by God.
 
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To add to this....God has angels assigned and appointed to fulfill certain duties in Heaven...
God even has an army in Heaven and Michael the Archangel is in charge of them.
He has the angels assigned to record our lives in the Book of Remembrance
He has angels assigned to sing praise around His throne day and night..
He has angels who are messengers, guardians, comforters (ministering angels)
And many other assignments are given to certain members of heaven...
 
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Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end

I like how this describes infinitely increasing government

'big government' in this case is desirable, and to be grateful for.

The existence of free will is undeniable. It's the extent to which that will is free that may be debated. The older I get, the more I long to be His 'robot' - to be controlled and led and programmed by Him; for my will to be conformed to and informed by His
 

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And we are the servants who walk this earth showing forth His Kingdom through us.

And I think ...
well,
I think we should be doing a better job.
Imagine if all the Christians got off their fanny's and actually went to work pushing back the evil in the world?
Imagine actually trampling on those things that go against God?

What are we waiting for?

Ye are the salt of the earth..
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

We're supposed to be salting...
if we're not salting we're good for nothing..

What is salting???

I'm thinking salt in a wound...
salt is savoury...
makes you thirsty..
we are to salt the earth..

salt the earth..
 

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And we are the servants who walk this earth showing forth His Kingdom through us.

And I think ...
well,
I think we should be doing a better job.
Imagine if all the Christians got off their fanny's and actually went to work pushing back the evil in the world?
Imagine actually trampling on those things that go against God?

What are we waiting for?

Ye are the salt of the earth..
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

We're supposed to be salting...
if we're not salting we're good for nothing..

What is salting???

I'm thinking salt in a wound...
salt is savoury...
makes you thirsty..
we are to salt the earth..

salt the earth..
Exactly...I could do so much better than what I am doing but I have hope in what is fixing to happen....things are going to get real exciting in the upcoming years.....i can't hardly wait
 

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God even has an army in Heaven and Michael the Archangel is in charge of them.

No, but Christ:

Joshua 5:13-15
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, "[Are] You for us or for our adversaries?" So He said, "No, but [as] Commander of the army of the LORD I have now come." And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, "What does my Lord say to His servant?" Then the Commander of the LORD's army said to Joshua, "Take your sandal off your foot, for the place where you stand [is] holy." And Joshua did so.


Which makes it amazing that it is Michael who fights and throws Satan out of heaven.
Think about it: Jesus can destroy him with a word from His mouth or simply by appearing ((2 Thessalonians 2:8)). So why does God allow war in heaven, and send Michael to rebuke Satan? And why does this same Michael who throws him to earth dare not accuse him, but say 'the LORD rebuke'? ((Jude 9))

This is a heavy, complex thing, too. =]
It's salt
 
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I like how this describes infinitely increasing government

'big government' in this case is desirable, and to be grateful for.

The existence of free will is undeniable. It's the extent to which that will is free that may be debated. The older I get, the more I long to be His 'robot' - to be controlled and led and programmed by Him; for my will to be conformed to and informed by His
I agree,
I just don't want to be the world's robot controlled by them.
That's we're we came from... but they are putting a lot of pressure on.
I don't even know if it's real or if it's just the media telling us it's real.
I go to the store now and then. I don't see the crazy madness running up and down in the stores and on the streets.
The TV would have you believe that fear lies in every crack around every corner.

It infiltrates into your mind... be afraid, do what your told, submit to the science, to whatever they want to throw at you.
Be afraid to speak, afraid you might call someone by the wrong pronoun, afraid to go the mall because a riot might break out.
Drive down the street and get shot at in your car..

I swear the world's gone mad because the TV tells me so.
But when I walk out my door, it's quiet and peaceful.

I believe God has set me in a quiet pasture for now.
It hasn't made it's way to my neighborhood or my door.

They want to take our freedom in Christ away..not just your physical, but your mind..
they are trying so hard to convince you how to think and how to feel..

And you have to be able to recognize it, because they throw new things out everyday to trip you up.
And they word it and package it so it sounds good, but inside it's mostly rotten and deceiving.

alas.. it's almost 2am..
I think I need a nap.
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No, but Christ:

Joshua 5:13-15
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, "[Are] You for us or for our adversaries?" So He said, "No, but [as] Commander of the army of the LORD I have now come." And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, "What does my Lord say to His servant?" Then the Commander of the LORD's army said to Joshua, "Take your sandal off your foot, for the place where you stand [is] holy." And Joshua did so.


Which makes it amazing that it is Michael who fights and throws Satan out of heaven.
Think about it: Jesus can destroy him with a word from His mouth or simply by appearing ((2 Thessalonians 2:8)). So why does God allow war in heaven, and send Michael to rebuke Satan? And why does this same Michael who throws him to earth dare not accuse him, but say 'the LORD rebuke'? ((Jude 9))

This is a heavy, complex thing, too. =]
It's salt
I was thinking it was the 2 cherubim that are over the mercy seat..
they are battling.
One went and stood at the east of the garden to block the way of the tree of life,
the other saw himself as God in the name of Lucifer..

I see one angel battling another angel..
war in heaven..


thinking..
 
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Reminds me when the Lord says..
consider the ant thou sluggard...
There is a reason and a purpose for everything under the sun.
And many depths and heights of the riches of them.
Thank You
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Amen, reasons and purposes exist, but who is able to find the right ones at the right times?

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jerem 10:23
 
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Yes and what do nurses give in hospitals to replace fluids in the body? Normal Saline...saline means consisting of or containing salt...
So your IV bag is mainly a salt solution....which other meds can be injected through as well.
The human body contains many salts, of which sodium chloride (AKA common table salt) is the major one, making up around 0.4 per cent of the body's weight at a concentration pretty well equivalent to that in seawater.

So a 50kg (110 lb) person would contain around 200g of sodium chloride - around 40 teaspoons. Since we lose salt whenever we sweat, it has to be continually replaced.

While excessive consumption of it has been linked to high blood pressure and stomach cancer, salt is a vital part of body chemistry, playing a key role in many functions, from the quality of blood to transmission of nerve signals
Many years ago I remember being advised by a medical doctor to put salt on my food. My body did not have enough salt. In more recent years the advice has reversed for me as I guess I have in that respect become more like most other elderly people who need to cut back on salt.

Just the right amount is right! Not too much but also not too little!
 

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I don't think that's fair...

If I sin I just grab an innocent animal and kill it and it makes my sins disappear...

I have a really hard time with that.
No easier than an innocent man paying the blood price for all the guilty.

Why does there have to be killing?

I suppose I would have to journey all the way back to Cain..
greed, jealousy, envy...

works of the flesh.

thank you
I just have a hard time.. specially with Leviticus.
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Why are there innocents, be they what men name lower animals or be they young children who have little understanding or control? Why are there so many seemingly willing to hurt the innocents? Why even among the very closest followers of Jesus did they Not understand what it was that God really wanted from them?

"Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt 19:13-14
 

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And we are the servants who walk this earth showing forth His Kingdom through us.

And I think ...
well,
I think we should be doing a better job.
Imagine if all the Christians got off their fanny's and actually went to work pushing back the evil in the world?
Imagine actually trampling on those things that go against God?

What are we waiting for?

Ye are the salt of the earth..
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

We're supposed to be salting...
if we're not salting we're good for nothing..

What is salting???

I'm thinking salt in a wound...
salt is savoury...
makes you thirsty..
we are to salt the earth..

salt the earth..
Just remember that the "trampling on those things that go against God" must truly begin in our own 'houses'! Too many people, it seems to me, go forth against the ways of others, when their own houses, to me appear to be still filthy and perhaps getting worse.

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" Matt 7:3-4
 

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Salt is the topic.. ugh
I go where I am least comfortable..
Leviticus.

Lev 2:13 And every oblation of thy meat offering shalt thou season with salt; neither shalt thou suffer the salt of the covenant of thy God to be lacking from thy meat offering: with all thine offerings thou shalt offer salt.

salt of the covenant..
somebody was posting on this the other day.. I don't remember, maybe Covenants.. @Charity?
'All the heave offerings of the holy things,
which the children of Israel offer unto the LORD,
have I given thee, and thy sons and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for ever:
it is a covenant of salt for ever before the LORD unto thee and to thy seed with thee.'

(Numbers 18:19)

'Ought ye not to know
that the LORD God of Israel
gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever,
even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?'

(2 Chronicles 13:5)

Hi @Ziggy,

In the marginal notes in my Bible, in regard to the words 'covenant of salt', it says (partial quote):-

'Heb. 'covenant' = berith, from barah, [meaning 'to cut'; hence 'to eat']. As salt was scarce and precious, and used with all eating,
so it was put, by a figure for 'eating', just as the breaking of bread was, [See Lamentations 4:4; Ezekiel 18:7].
Hence, when wages were paid in kind, by finding the worker in food, 'salt' was put (by figure) for wages generally: so that a worker was spoken of as being worth, or not worth, his 'salt'. 'A covenant of salt' was therefore a covenant made by sacrifice, which was first 'cut' in two (Genesis 15:10-18, Jeremiah 34:18-19) and then eaten, thus solemnising an inviolable (ie., 'unbreakable') covenant.'
Thank you,
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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We're supposed to be salting...
if we're not salting we're good for nothing..

What is salting???

I'm thinking salt in a wound...
salt is savoury...
makes you thirsty..
we are to salt the earth..

salt the earth..
"Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone." Colossians 4:6

Salt is the grace of God. We are to be the grace of God to the world in how we speak and act. But if we lose that witness through our own stupidity you really can't regain that influence with the world again. We lose our saltiness and all we're good for is to be trampled on by men.
 

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Exactly...I could do so much better than what I am doing but I have hope in what is fixing to happen....things are going to get real exciting in the upcoming years.....i can't hardly wait
Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord,
when he will return from the wedding;
that when he cometh and knocketh,
they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants,
whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching:
verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself,
and make them to sit down to meat,
and will come forth and serve them.
And if he shall come in the second watch,
or come in the third watch,
and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know,
that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come,
he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also:
for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
Things are gonna be real exciting in the coming times . And speaking of times , Take a big hearty look around
and look at the Signs of the Times .
 

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What does it mean, ye are the salt of the earth?

When I think of salt, I do think of savour. 2 Corinthians 2:14-17 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. [15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: [16] To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? [17] For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
 
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When I think of salt, I do think of savour. 2 Corinthians 2:14-17 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. [15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: [16] To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? [17] For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
@VictoryinJesus Searching passage there; I hadn't thought of that linkage; interesting...
 

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Amen, reasons and purposes exist, but who is able to find the right ones at the right times?

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jerem 10:23
I suppose that means, one who is led by the Holy Spirit.
Jesus says even in that hour you will be given what to say.
I believe that means will will have our memory jogged for the exact words is written in the bible at the moment that we need them.
Just like Jesus quoted the Law to Satan, who knew the law and tried to get Jesus to forget, because of hunger, or pride, or worldly riches.
And each time Jesus came back with the right words to rebuke him.

But God has already supplied the path for us to walk in. And that is His word.
When we stray off that path, then we try to do things our own way.
We don't have those directions in ourselves, those directions are written in His word, like a map.

That's why His sheep hear his voice, because we read the map and follow His voice. But there are so many voices in the world right now, and people are being confused. By their Priests, by their Pastors... they are being led away and taking many with them, because they don't read the map, and they can't hear His voice.

So some people come to forums outside their churches to hear what others are talking about.
And yet they are convinced as most of us are, that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

And they are half right. Because only God is true and everything we have ever been taught has lies in it.
That's why we are told to keep the feast with unleavened bread.
But how can you toss out the leaven when you don't know what it looks like?
Everybody has their version, their understanding of what truth is.
And somewhere along the line, we will all know the same truth without any deviance from it.

Right now we are in the middle of an information war. We can't see it, but we can hear it. And it's causing chaos in the sounds and the voices.
How shall they hear...specially when false lies are everywhere... even in the church.

This began about 5 years ago now.. maybe that's a marker of time or event biblically. I don't know..
But everything coming across the "air" started becoming toxic.
Name calling, false accusations, racist attacks, murders and stealing are aired daily on the news.

Has it changed you?
Do you question whether your neighbor is vaxed or not?
How about the color of their skin?
Are you becoming frustrated, angy, confused about your hearing on tv?

How can you hear the Lord, when there is so much noise in the air?

We need to keep our nose to the map, keep our ears on the word, and keep our eyes on the Lord.
And let Him use our mouth when the time comes.

God Bless
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