Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

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Can spirits exist without a physical host?

There are angels of God that are unseen spirit beings. And there are also unseen spirit beings called Satan, devils, demons who are adversaries of God and His Church.

I will put my 3 posts toghther so that you can address them all.

Yes they can. They did before the fall and they can today. They are spirits. Angels have appeared unto men distinct to human bodies.

Job 4:15 Then a spirit passed before my face; the hair of my flesh stood up:

The disciples knew and believed in the existence of spirits separate and distinct to man.

Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.
Mat 14:27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.


Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
Mat 12:44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.


Matthew 12:43-45 proves that demons operate outside of physical bodies. Notwithstanding, they are constantly on the lookout for humans to inhabit.

Matthew 8:28-34

28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
30 And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.
31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
32 And he said unto them, Go. And
when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
33 And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils.
34 And, behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus: and when they saw him, they besought him that he would depart out of their coasts.


If demons are not in fact real distinct demonic entities but just "evil" in man's "spirit" ("the spirit of disobedience") what are they doing in hogs? This is ridiculous.
 

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Because you have no answers to the Scriptures presnted, you have resorted to playing the Premil victim card. I am not interested in that. Address the scriptural arguments above.

Now I've resorted to playing the Premil victim card???
 

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If demons are not in fact real distinct demonic entities but just "evil" in man's "spirit" ("the spirit of disobedience") what are they doing in hogs? This is ridiculous.

Once again, I have never said demons/devils/Satan as well as angels of God are not real! What I have said all along is that they exist by working and doing through physical hosts. Yes, I agree this is ridiculous!
 
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Once again, I have never said demons/devils/Satan as well as angels of God are not real! What I have said all along is that they exist by working and doing through physical hosts. Yes, I agree this is ridiculous!
Are they separate and distinct spirits that can function outside of humans?

What are angels? Are they in humans? Are they the spirits of humans?
 

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He belives it is just the evil attitude in man. Satan is not distinct from man. He is not a separate being.
well it is that as well . mans heart is evil from his youth and up .
My advice , TO THE TRENCHES for the hour is late
and many will wail on JESUS day . For they loved a lie and rejected the TRUTH .
Many are in love with this god , the one who allows them their sin with a promise of salvation too .
And that AINT GOD , IT AINT CHRIST and it cannot save them or deliver them from the wrath
they are storing up for themselves on JESUS DAY .
Many love and are falling in mad love with a harlots love . And that my friend is a very sad but very true fact .
SO do beware and do be on g uard . FOR this inclusive ecumenical god and its HARLOT are taking
all to the lie they beleive to be the LOVE OF GOD and HIS PLAN for world peace .
ONLY it the devil padnah . And his co workers sure can wear wool . SO watch out and do be on guard .
ALWAYS remember a harlot knows exactly how to dress to seduce any she cometh to seduce and she will
surely lie and call it love too . May none be taken into her web and her bedchamber of love
for WHEN THE GOODMAN SHOWS UP , IT WILL BE unexpected and the price of her love
WILL HAVE BEEN THE COST OF their soul . SO again be on gaurd , she is real sneaky ho that one is .
 

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Exactly. This is just astounding. How can any Christian not have any understanding of angels, Satan and demons? It's not like the Bible is silent on the topic.
The siren bell is ringing . amber alert amber alert .
You are requested to read post 1265 , for it is a dire necessary warning to all .
She a real sneaky harlot that ol harlot surely is my friend . And they know not
that the cost of her love will be for their own soul . Now that my friend IS A FACT . And a painful one it will be
on JESUS day f or all who bought a harlots lie she called love .
 
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The teaching above promoted by a couple of posters on this board is more in line with modern liberal Atheistic Psychology thinking today or established Christadelphianism than biblical Christianity.

The modern psychological model

The modern psychological model views the symptoms described in biblical narratives—such as speaking in multiple voices, exhibiting different personalities, and displaying extreme behavioral changes—as consistent with dissociative identity disorder rather than literal demonic possession.

Christadelphians

Christadelphians do not believe in a supernatural, personal devil, but rather view the "devil" and "Satan" as personifications of sin, evil human nature, and temptation. They interpret these terms to represent the sinful inclinations within individuals, or sometimes a group of people or a political power acting as an opponent. According to this belief, sin originates from within a person's own desires, and the "devil" is not an external being with magical powers, but a metaphorical representation of the struggle against God's will.

The truth!

Do you realize, Satan is not a physical being? He is an angel. He is an invisible spirit. He is a real demonic angelic entity. He is not merely an abstract influence. Even though Satan is an angel of darkness, 2 Corinthians 11:14 tells us that "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Angels are spirits (Hebrews 1:14). Demons are fallen angels. They operate in the invisible realm. Their allegiance is to Satan. When the Bible talks about the activity of the devil, it sometimes includes the phrase “and his angels.” They are depicted as a collective whole. They move and fight as a unitary army. You cannot divide Satan from the fate of his angels. For example, Jesus describes them in Matthew 25:41 as the devil and his angels. Revelation 12:7 describes them as the dragon … and his angels,” and in Revelation 12:9 as that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan … and his angels.”

Job 1:6-7: "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."

We can see how the demonic host operates as a collective whole.

Demons are fallen angels

Jud 1:6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”

2 Peter 2:4 closely correlates: God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Gr. tartaroo], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.”

This is talking about angels that sinned at the beginning and therefore fell. Adam and Eve were not angels. They are not held in "everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” God redeemed them. He made an atoning sacrifice for them in the Garden and gave them a righteous covering. Who else is this speaking about than Satan and his demons?

Revelation 12:1-4 shows Satan and his devils being eternally evicted from heaven. Interestingly the demonic angels are depicted as “stars.” It reads: “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon ... And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth.”

In Revelation 12:4, 1/3 of the angels sided with Satan in his rebellion. They sided with him when he fell, and are part of the kingdom of darkness.

Job 38:4-7 tells us, speaking about the beginning of time, “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Revelation 9:1 says: I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the abyss.”

It seems correct to view the flying star in view here as an elect angel. Remember, the key or authority no longer belongs to Satan. He was defeated. Christ and His angels exercise that now within the invisible realm. We exercise it upon the earth.

It is clear that stars are used by John in Revelation as symbols of angels. A falling star is a common easily-recognized natural symbol that is used in a spiritual way here to describe an elect angel descending from heaven before the end of time to open the pit to release Satan and his demons from their restraint in order to restrict the great commission.
Good post

Devils/Demons desire to live within human beings

The wild man in the caves had a legion, Mary Magdalen had seven?
 
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When we become saved, the spirit of Satan is very literally Cast Out! Truly, this is what the miracles Christ did of casting out demons "signified." That we were loosed and made free from the bondage that Satan held over our bodies. And in the Spirit of Christ Satan can no longer rule within us. It is an Oxymoron to claim someone is a Christian, and also Satan possessed. For you cannot be Christ-possessed and Satan-possessed at the same time. You are either saved and free from bondage to Satan, or you are not.
No. Casting out was a special assignment Jesus performed, and which He passed unto His disciples, to deliver those who had opened themselves up to Satan's control.

Only those who had demonic spirits needed them cast out by Jesus and the disciples. But not all men were like that. If you were right, why are most men saved without anyone casting devils out of them?
 

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Are they separate and distinct spirits that can function outside of humans?

What are angels? Are they in humans? Are they the spirits of humans?

If they are not separate and distinct how could spirits enter into and function through physical hosts? When a spirit, whether the Spirit of Christ, or demonic spirit inhabits a man, that man is of the spirit that is in them. The spirit in man is either of our Father in heaven, or is of the father of lies, who is a murderer and liar from the beginning.

God tells us His angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to heirs of salvation.

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Hebrews 1:13-14 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

When we are born again we are indwelt with the Spirit of Christ. If we have not the Spirit of Christ in us, we are none of His. Until we have been born again, the spirit in man is ruled by spiritual wickedness of this world, under the prince and power of darkness.

Ephesians 2:2 (KJV) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Luke 22:53 (KJV) When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Can you explain from the Bible how spirits operate outside of a physical host? Because the Bible does not explicitly state that demons can operate entirely independent of a physical host, but it does show that they can function in ways that do not require direct possession of a physical host.
 

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Only those who had demonic spirits needed them cast out by Jesus and the disciples. But not all men were like that. If you were right, why are most men saved without anyone casting devils out of them?

Why must man be born again of the Spirit of Christ? Is it not because every human from A&E is spiritually born in wickedness with a spirit of disobedience? How are we all transgressors from the womb if not through the spirit within us? Man, by nature/natural birth is born children of wrath, destined to sin and death. And we will all die in our sins until the spirit of the old is driven out by the Spirit from above who gives us eternal life.

Psalm 58:3 (KJV) The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Psalm 51:5 (KJV) Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Job 15:14 (KJV) What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Proverbs 22:15 (KJV) Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Isaiah 48:8 (KJV) Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

Ephesians 2:3 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

It is because mankind is naturally born through spirit of sin that we must be born again of the Spirit of Christ. When Christ came casting out demonic spirits, it is a picture/example of casting out the natural wicked spirit through the power of God. When the old spirit/man is cast out the old becomes new through faith, believing the life they receive through Christ comes from His Spirit within. Because life comes from spirit. Physical life from the natural spirit within, destined to sin and death, and must be born again to have eternal life through the Spirit of Christ casting out the old man, making him a new man now indwelt with the Spirit who gives them everlasting life.

Just because most of mankind does not go about physically displaying the spirit of disobedience does not mean they have not been born with a spirit of disobedience destined to sin and death. The heart of all mankind is naturally evil unless/until they have been made new again through the Spirit of Christ.

Jeremiah 17:9 (KJV) The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Romans 3:11-18 (KJV) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Satan, devils, demons and also the Spirit of God are spirit, without form. Spirit is defined as wind; air; resemblance of breath - it is spirit that gives physical life to the flesh, and the Spirit of Christ that gives ETERNAL life through His Spirit in us.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
 
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The siren bell is ringing . amber alert amber alert .
You are requested to read post 1265 , for it is a dire necessary warning to all .
She a real sneaky harlot that ol harlot surely is my friend . And they know not
that the cost of her love will be for their own soul . Now that my friend IS A FACT . And a painful one it will be
on JESUS day f or all who bought a harlots lie she called love .
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King Charles will protect “faith within the multi-faith nation”, according to a new definition of the monarch’s role.
The notable addition to the King’s title appeared in the Sovereign Grant report 2025-26, the annual review of the Royal Family’s finances, published this week.
“His Majesty is Supreme Governor of the Church of England and protects the space for faith within the multi-faith nation”, Buckingham Palace states under the “official duties of the sovereign”.
Reflecting the role of the established church, previous reports have described the King as “Head of the Church of England and Defender of the Faith”.
As part of his commitment to religious dialogue, the report states that “His Majesty also has a special role in bringing communities and faiths together, engaging with them across the regions and nations of the UK”. This is to foster “a sense of pride, continuity and stability, whilst strengthening the UK’s social fabric and cohesion”, according to Buckingham Palace.
Queen Elizabeth II’s title was described in reports as “Supreme Governor of the Church of England”.
King Charles will also provide “pastoral support to our Armed Forces”, a change to previous wording of being “Head of the Armed Forces” as seen under the late queen.
In 2022, the King told faith leaders he felt a “duty to protect the diversity of our country, including by protecting the space for faith itself and its practise through the religions, cultures, traditions and beliefs to which our hearts and minds direct us as individuals.”

YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP .
Soon the inclusive religion will become law and enforced upon all by a powerful digital system .
 

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just wait till one sees exactly what they mean and meant by protecting the faith .
For if a word spoken or typed Offends any of them religoins it will be silenced .
TO include this , IF one even says hey JESUS is the only way and yet must BELIEVE on HIM ,
Guess who that offends . if you said other religoins and etc YOU be right .
THIS IS NOT about religious liberty or freedom
IT was all about the creation of and soon to be ENFORCING of the inclusive religion .
TO even say homosexuality is sin will be seen as hate and as of fensive
To say that JESUS THE CHRIST is indeed the only WAY TO GOD and that ONE MUST beleive IN HIM
WILL be seen as hate and offensive . ITS THE GOVT of the WORLDS religoin which shall serve the very beast
which shall be enforced and become the law of nations and of the world .
WE got deceived . But not the sheep . For no matter the cost they will not bend the knee
to A LIE , to a god who has come in its own name to promote utter rebellion to the ONE TRUE GOD .
Folks the hour of our persecution does draw nigh . Fear it not . To live is CHRIST to die is only gain .
 
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Why must man be born again of the Spirit of Christ? Is it not because every human from A&E is spiritually born in wickedness with a spirit of disobedience? How are we all transgressors from the womb if not through the spirit within us? Man, by nature/natural birth is born children of wrath, destined to sin and death. And we will all die in our sins until the spirit of the old is driven out by the Spirit from above who gives us eternal life.

Psalm 58:3 (KJV) The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Psalm 51:5 (KJV) Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Job 15:14 (KJV) What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Proverbs 22:15 (KJV) Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Isaiah 48:8 (KJV) Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

Ephesians 2:3 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

It is because mankind is naturally born through spirit of sin that we must be born again of the Spirit of Christ. When Christ came casting out demonic spirits, it is a picture/example of casting out the natural wicked spirit through the power of God. When the old spirit/man is cast out the old becomes new through faith, believing the life they receive through Christ comes from His Spirit within. Because life comes from spirit. Physical life from the natural spirit within, destined to sin and death, and must be born again to have eternal life through the Spirit of Christ casting out the old man, making him a new man now indwelt with the Spirit who gives them everlasting life.

Just because most of mankind does not go about physically displaying the spirit of disobedience does not mean they have not been born with a spirit of disobedience destined to sin and death. The heart of all mankind is naturally evil unless/until they have been made new again through the Spirit of Christ.

Jeremiah 17:9 (KJV) The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Romans 3:11-18 (KJV) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Satan, devils, demons and also the Spirit of God are spirit, without form. Spirit is defined as wind; air; resemblance of breath - it is spirit that gives physical life to the flesh, and the Spirit of Christ that gives ETERNAL life through His Spirit in us.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
He who BELEIVES JESUS IS THE CHRIST is born of GOD .
notice john did not say He who whether he beleives or not b ut just hugs and so called loves is born of GOD .
THEY are omitting the DIRE NEED TO CONFESS JESUS . Go to and examine
their so called ecumenical interfaith interreligious dialogue and YE shall see
THE DIRE NEED FOR TO BELEIVE ON JESUS
has been DENIED and a so called works by love has b ecome the way to GOD . ONLY THAT BE A LIE .
For while its true that the born again sheep do love , Their love is not of this world
but is of GOD and TESTIFIES ONLY ON THE TRUTH and not a lie . For
NO lie is of GOD , no lie or any sin WOULD HONOR GOD . And to Call JESUS a liar
as do all other religions , SEEING they DO NOT BELIEVE HE IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD
WELL that sure dont HONOR THE SON now do it .
JESUS paid the price of our sins , JESUS was beaten down like a cur dog and even had a bag put over his
face , as those who STRUCK him , mocked him and said GO ahead and prophesy WHO it is that struck you .
JESUS wore a crown of thorns with a whipped up back , who by that beating alone
would have killed him in time .
JESUS , rather than calling down legions of angels for to save him from his hour
RATHER allowed them to take him , SO as ALL WHO WOULD BELEIVE would be saved .
AND this ecumeincal WHORE and her rotted love
wants to imply , OH WE DONT NEED TO BELIEVE HE DID ANYTHING or even on HIM .
What a dishonor to the SON that is . AND HE who honors NOT the SON , YOO HOO EVERYONE , HONORS NOT THE FATHER .
This generation IS IN DIRE trouble my friend . Well not on my watch
i shall expose the love of a harlot no matter the cost to me for doing so . ITS JESUS ONLY for this sheep
and ITS HE and HIS teachings that shall be embraced by HIS SHEEP . NOT A LIE .
 

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If they are not separate and distinct how could spirits enter into and function through physical hosts? When a spirit, whether the Spirit of Christ, or demonic spirit inhabits a man, that man is of the spirit that is in them. The spirit in man is either of our Father in heaven, or is of the father of lies, who is a murderer and liar from the beginning.

God tells us His angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to heirs of salvation.

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Hebrews 1:13-14 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

When we are born again we are indwelt with the Spirit of Christ. If we have not the Spirit of Christ in us, we are none of His. Until we have been born again, the spirit in man is ruled by spiritual wickedness of this world, under the prince and power of darkness.

Ephesians 2:2 (KJV) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Luke 22:53 (KJV) When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Can you explain from the Bible how spirits operate outside of a physical host? Because the Bible does not explicitly state that demons can operate entirely independent of a physical host, but it does show that they can function in ways that do not require direct possession of a physical host.
And for total proof that they do operate through men
TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK at jus how many co workers
we have even in christendom that promote a lie . Yet do so under the guise they are of GOD and speak for GOD .
OH YEAH spirits sure can work through people .
AND ITS WHY JOHN said YE MUST TEST THE SPIRITS
for many FALSE PROPHETS have g one out into the world .
 
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Once again, I have never said demons/devils/Satan as well as angels of God are not real! What I have said all along is that they exist by working and doing through physical hosts. Yes, I agree this is ridiculous!
THEY sure do my friend .
YE know NOT what spirit ye are of ............................
Either one , THE BORN AGAIN WHO BELIEVE ON JESUS , is of GOD
of HIS SPIRIT
OR they are of another spirit all together . and many spirits there be indeed which testify falsely
and keep them trapped in the darkness and yet cliam IT BE THE LIGHT
and yet claim WE SEE .
But they are the blind leading the blind my friend . Many know not what spirit they are of my friend .
But any born of GOD has the SPIRIT
and the FRUIT of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness , and TRUTH
proving what is acceptable to GOD . AND A LIE IS NOT acceptable to GOD , nor is any sin .
But the love of a harlot sure has led them in to
a lie . and into only deeper and greater darkness . And she cries
to them all , COME YE , for this diverse many path of love , this broad inclusive road
IS the way to GOD . OH but she is a liar my friend and follows only the biddin g of her father who is prince of lies
and darkness . AND if the so called light that be in one IS darkness , THEN WOE , how great that darkness is ........
WE were warned my friend . And in the holy scrips contain the very words of truth and of life
and point to JESUS CHRIST who is THE TRUTH , WHO IS THE LIFE , WHO IS THE WAY
and the ONLY WAY TO GOD .
 
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If they are not separate and distinct how could spirits enter into and function through physical hosts? When a spirit, whether the Spirit of Christ, or demonic spirit inhabits a man, that man is of the spirit that is in them. The spirit in man is either of our Father in heaven, or is of the father of lies, who is a murderer and liar from the beginning.

God tells us His angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to heirs of salvation.

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Hebrews 1:13-14 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

When we are born again we are indwelt with the Spirit of Christ. If we have not the Spirit of Christ in us, we are none of His. Until we have been born again, the spirit in man is ruled by spiritual wickedness of this world, under the prince and power of darkness.

Ephesians 2:2 (KJV) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Luke 22:53 (KJV) When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Can you explain from the Bible how spirits operate outside of a physical host? Because the Bible does not explicitly state that demons can operate entirely independent of a physical host, but it does show that they can function in ways that do not require direct possession of a physical host.
So, Christians are possessed by angels? All the wicked are demon possessd?
 
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So, Christians are possessed by angels? All the wicked are demon possessd?

Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of Christ, do you really believe angels are the Holy Spirit of Christ?

And the wicked, as the Bible, not I, tell us, the wicked are estranged and go about speaking lies from birth which means all man at birth are
indwelt with the spirit of evil.

You don't seem to understand how unsaved mankind is under the power and influence of the power of evil. Being possessed by the spirit of Satan is understood as a supernatural condition in which a demonic entity exercises control over a person, often with visible and disruptive effects, but not always, and is described in the Bible as a real spiritual affliction requiring divine deliverance. Liars are every much under the power (ownership/possession) of the evil one, called Satan, as the person who presents this ownership in physical, bizarre uncontrollable behavior and afflictions!
 

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And for total proof that they do operate through men
TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK at jus how many co workers
we have even in christendom that promote a lie . Yet do so under the guise they are of GOD and speak for GOD .
OH YEAH spirits sure can work through people .
AND ITS WHY JOHN said YE MUST TEST THE SPIRITS
for many FALSE PROPHETS have g one out into the world .

Absolutely amigo! Satan is indeed a subtle foe of mankind, especially those who have been born again! If we only think of Satan as possessing the out-of-control lunatic that abounds in this world, then we are indeed in danger of falling under his wicked deceptive ways as did our first parents at creation.
 
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So, Christians are possessed by angels? All the wicked are demon possessd?

Can you explain from the Bible how spirits operate outside of a physical host? Because the Bible does not explicitly state that demons can operate entirely independent of a physical host, but it does show that they can function in ways that do not require direct possession of a physical host.