Saying you are without sin verses in 1 John

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amigo de christo

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Is a Christian "in" the flesh? Romans 8:9
We might walk IN THE FLESH but we do not war after the flesh .
For our weapons are spiritual , high and mighty to the pulling down of strong holds and EVERYTHING that does exalt itself AGAINST GOD
As SIN DOES , bringing even our thoughts CAPTIVE , captive to what , THE OBEDIANCE OF CHRIST .
FOLKS dont even know grace , nor the power OF THE SPIRIT by which we war . THIS GENERATION IS IN DIRE TROUBLE .
AND THEY DONT KNOW IT , cause they heed men when they should be LEARNING BIBLES .
 
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Here lets give the biblical definition .
For the Grace of GOD which brings salvation has appeared to all , TEACHING US TO DENY , TO DENY , TO DENY
ALL ungodliness and wordly lusts and to be living and walking RIGHTEOUSLY , soberly and godly in this persent world
as we hasten unto the coming of the glorious LORD .
Grace , IF ITS TRUE GRACE would BE TEACHING US something . WOULDNT IT .........
exactly . SO WHY does todays version of grace teach us , OH YE MAY SIN and DO EVIL , ALL IS WELL
YE UNDER GRACE .................THAT AINT GRACE , AT ALL .
Folks also need to discern that believers do not always, without deviation follow the letter of scripture. If believers were pre programmed robots, that would be different
 

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Oh I do, the reality of following after the Holy Spirit every minute of our lives escapes us all. Why do you think I dont believe that?

We are either a true Christian and do not willfully sin. Or in the flesh, and only act righteous with self will-power, but sin is still in them.

In other words, a true Christian with the Spirit of Christ indwelling is one 24/7/365, and never in the flesh.
 

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We might walk IN THE FLESH but we do not war after the flesh .
For our weapons are spiritual , high and mighty to the pulling down of strong holds and EVERYTHING that does exalt itself AGAINST GOD
As SIN DOES , bringing even our thoughts CAPTIVE , captive to what , THE OBEDIANCE OF CHRIST .
FOLKS dont even know grace , nor the power OF THE SPIRIT by which we war . THIS GENERATION IS IN DIRE TROUBLE .
AND THEY DONT KNOW IT , cause they heed men when they should be LEARNING BIBLES .

No, those who walk in the flesh can never please God. Romans 8:8
 

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Folks also need to discern that believers do not always, without deviation follow the letter of scripture. If believers were pre programmed robots, that would be different

But your conscience is on alert without reading the law. But you won't grow in the divine nature without the knowledge of Scripture.
 

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We are either a true Christian and do not willfully sin. Or in the flesh, and only act righteous with self will-power, but sin is still in them.

In other words, a true Christian with the Spirit of Christ indwelling is one 24/7/365, and never in the flesh.
So what are you in, when you fail to perfectly obey the letter of the law?
 

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Folks also need to discern that believers do not always, without deviation follow the letter of scripture. If believers were pre programmed robots, that would be different
Folks need to teach like the apostles did . Not like todays men do .
How come they said , LET SIN not once be named . IF I SAYTHAT , i get accused of being legalistic and told we cant stop sinning .
OR how come when i say if one does sin they need to confess and repent , and todays men say , LEGALISTIC STOP JUDGING WE ALL SIN .
AS i said above , WE NEED TO OPEN OUR BIBLES and STOP LISTENING TO THESE WACKED OUT LEADERS OF TODAY
who are busy leading the people into perdition by darkness and calling said darkness LIGHT .
 

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Folks need to teach like the apostles did . Not like todays men do .
How come they said , LET SIN not once be named . IF I SAYTHAT , i get accused of being legalistic and told we cant stop sinning .
OR how come when i say if one does sin they need to confess and repent , and todays men say , LEGALISTIC STOP JUDGING WE ALL SIN .
AS i said above , WE NEED TO OPEN OUR BIBLES and STOP LISTENING TO THESE WACKED OUT LEADERS OF TODAY
who are busy leading the people into perdition by darkness and calling said darkness LIGHT .
Well folks need to preach the whole message, not just parts of it. All Im hearing when I state believers are not under righteousness of obeying the law that means a licence to sin. So clearly they do not understand the message do they
 

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Folks also need to discern that believers do not always, without deviation follow the letter of scripture. If believers were pre programmed robots, that would be different
And folks need to understand that when they do err , ITS NOT A SIN TO REBUKE and CORRECT THEM .
SO why am i accused when i do warn against sin and not to err . OR when i do point out the sin of a brother or sister in error .
ALL I get told is STOP JUDGING HEY WE ALL SIN . THIS GENERATION HAS BEEN DUPED and is destroying its own people and churches .
LET LEAVEN INTO A CHURCH and watch what occurs WHEN IT AINT CORRECTED . IT LEAVENS THE WHOLE PLACE .
SEEKER FRIENDLY was of the DEVIL . WE should never have stopped preaching sound doctrine , WE should never
have stopped correcting sins . AND THEY CALL IT LOVE . NO ITS DEATH .
 

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We establish the law. Unfortunately, you don't understand what that means.
Oh I do, but sadly it is you who do not.
Why will sin not be your master for you are not under righteousness of obeying the law but under righteousness of faith in Christ? Please tell me
 

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Interesting, when you first read the post you have responded to here you stated: Great post.
Best not to be double minded

What are your referring to? If I ever responded to one of your posts with 'great post', it was either by accident or you said something right for once (by accident).

My most recent comment was "Only a carnal mind would misinterpret Scripture like you have. Why don't you leave, as you have promised?"
 
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Well folks need to preach the whole message, not just parts of it. All Im hearing when I state believers are not under righteousness of obeying the law that means a licence to sin. So clearly they do not understand the message do they

But your accusation was in total error. But you make them anyway.
 

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We might walk IN THE FLESH but we do not war after the flesh .
For our weapons are spiritual , high and mighty to the pulling down of strong holds and EVERYTHING that does exalt itself AGAINST GOD
As SIN DOES , bringing even our thoughts CAPTIVE , captive to what , THE OBEDIANCE OF CHRIST .
FOLKS dont even know grace , nor the power OF THE SPIRIT by which we war . THIS GENERATION IS IN DIRE TROUBLE .
AND THEY DONT KNOW IT , cause they heed men when they should be LEARNING BIBLES .
Amen
 
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And folks need to understand that when they do err , ITS NOT A SIN TO REBUKE and CORRECT THEM .
SO why am i accused when i do warn against sin and not to err . OR when i do point out the sin of a brother or sister in error .
ALL I get told is STOP JUDGING HEY WE ALL SIN . THIS GENERATION HAS BEEN DUPED and is destroying its own people and churches .
LET LEAVEN INTO A CHURCH and watch what occurs WHEN IT AINT CORRECTED . IT LEAVENS THE WHOLE PLACE .
SEEKER FRIENDLY was of the DEVIL . WE should never have stopped preaching sound doctrine , WE should never
have stopped correcting sins . AND THEY CALL IT LOVE . NO ITS DEATH .
Possibly folks should look to themselves and not just others where imperfections are concerned, we all have them
 

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Well folks need to preach the whole message, not just parts of it. All Im hearing when I state believers are not under righteousness of obeying the law that means a licence to sin. So clearly they do not understand the message do they
I never said you taught that . But all i am saying is , WE NEED TO CORRECT ANYONE WHO ENTERS Our CHURCH
if we see them in sin . Paul was not a monster for correcting the corinthian church and having them cast that man out .
What do you think paul would have said if the corinthian church was allowing two gay men to be married , sleeping together .
HE would have had them cast out . TILL THEY DID REPENT of said sin . WE JUST HUG AND WONT SAY ANYTHING and we THINK THIS IS LOVE .
NO . WE NEED to correct . PEROID .
 

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Possibly folks should look to themselves and not just others where imperfections are concerned, we all have them

John 8:31-36
To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.


Romans 6:6-7
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

Romans 6:16-21
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey — whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
19 I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. 20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.


1 Corinthians 7:21-22
Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you — although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave.

Galatians 4:7
So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Ephesians 6:6
Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves.


2 Peter 2:19-20
They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

Who is your Master/Lord? Jesus or self/sin

hope this helps !!!
 
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