Should Christians Support Isreal?

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Foreigner

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James Forthwright said:
Yeah, Bibi's "a true trusted friend alright". . .

“My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now,” — spoken by none other than Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel. Who was present in New York City on 9/11 and London during the 7/7 subway bombings.

“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” ~ Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002.

And a quote from Bibi's pals:

"Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care." -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982


Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and 'turn the U.S. against us.' At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turns toward Peres, saying "Every time we do something you tell me Americans would do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it".
-- A simple check confirms that NONE of these quotes happened....ever.

One is left wondering if you are intentionally trying to deceive or simply that gullible.


Here is just one example:http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=372&x_context=7
 

afaithfulone4u

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Great topic!
We are not to just support Israel from man, we are supposed to bless the unbelieving Jews to have mercy on them for our salvation by bringing Christ to them to the saving of their souls for we MUST ALL be born again rather Jew or Gentile. I believe the devout Jews are the only ones who God has spared for Himself a remnant of 7,000. Due to the covenant that God had with their natural fathers,we should never harm or wish harm to a Jew nor any man for that matter.

But very soon as we are seeing, the military armies will be brought against Israel by THE HAND OF GOD and all who have pledged their allegiance to the beast army will HAVE to fight against Israel. Do not fear what man can do, but fear the One who can destroy the body, and soul. We are to support the Jews by casting them out of the old covenant and into the new before it is to late. Natural Israel WILL be destroyed.

We are spiritual Israel who is of the promise being Jew and Gentile in the One new man in Christ. God is angry at the false shepherds that teach to the unbelieving Jews that God is going to spare them saying Peace Peace, for these shepherds work for the enemy knowing that unless they too repent and turn to Christ, being born again they will be destroyed.
But while the enemy has their sights on the natural Jews build another temple with man's hands, the true temple is already being built up a spiritual house by the Hand(Jesus) of God which is Esther the new covenant Israel who is born from above the bride with hidden roots and the Jewish line shall be saved.
As for the star of David. Have you noticed that it is two pyramids one coming down upon the other? I have understood this to mean that God is God over all, EVEN EGYPT, it is only men whom the enemy can control, not the earth or the power thereof. Just as we shall reign on earth as son's of God being kings and priests to rule being chosen out NOW before the foundation of the New heaven and earth, I believe that the rulers of all the world Were and are son's of God that were supposed to keep the Father as THEIR HEAD as well but defiled themselves with women and forgot God.
Our leaders are a product of our offsprings up raising and God let's us reap what we have sown, to eat the fruit of what we have produced.

It is said that Enoch built the great pyramid for God. Also why are there pyramids all over the world, where did they get this knowledge from? Could it be that the tabernacle of God hovered over the earth and they built what they thought they saw?
Job 36:29
29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
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and from the ground it being perfectly square, but appeared to be smaller as it ascended tall till the top looked to be pointed? Why do churches build steeples in the shape of a pyramid? Why do we place our hands in a pyramid shape when we pray?

BUT!! We must remember there were two Enoch's and one was the son of CAIN... is it possible that this was the Enoch who wrote the book of Enoch? I have not read the book of Enoch, so I could be wrong on this being by Cain's son Enoch.
As for the church being forced to meet in physical buildings, this came about at the time of Constantine, not a command of Christ. I know the body of Christ is not found in a building.

God has turned all men over to sin so that He can have mercy on who so ever will but He has not cast away His people, but they too, MUST be born again to. Saved and to be chosen to inherit the kingdom(rulership) of God are two different things.

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
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