Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Jack]

If anyone thinks that contradicts all the scriptures which speak of the end of this world they better try again.

That passage is fulfilled to Israel in the spiritual/heavenly realm only through the gospel. The promised land was the land of rest from slavery and bondage......allegorically it is speaking of the kingdom of God.. The Israel of God (which believing Gentiles also belong to) is rescued from being captives of the devil and bondage of sin and will never be pulled up out of the kingdom of God. The Israel of God belongs to the kingdom of God and always will. As opposed to "Israel after the flesh". Here we seek no continuing city. Abraham confessed he was a stranger and sojourner IN THE LAND....just passing through it.

"And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God."

Israel is Home to stay, in the Land of the Bible.

 

[Lizbeth]

"And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God."

Israel is Home to stay, in the Land of the Bible.

1Co 2:12-14

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Israel thought like you (and still does), that they were going to receive an earthly kingdom.......but Jesus was CORRECTING that wrong mindset when He told them His kingdom IS NOT OF THIS WORLD, and comes not with observation that you may say lo here it is or there.

 

[Jack]

1Co 2:12-14

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Israel thought like you (and still does), that they were going to receive an earthly kingdom.......but Jesus was CORRECTING that wrong mindset when He told them His kingdom IS NOT OF THIS WORLD, and comes not with observation that you may say lo here it is or there.

Israel is home to stay in the Land of the Bible! All the wannabees on Earth CAN'T remove Israel. Sit back and watch God FIGHT for Israel, again and again... Just don't get in His way.

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

 

[Lizbeth]

Israel is home to stay in the Land of the Bible! All the wannabees on Earth CAN'T remove Israel. Sit back and watch God FIGHT for Israel, again and again... Just don't get in His way.

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

Phl 3:17-20

Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Jack]

Phl 3:17-20

Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ

Israel wannabee?

 

[Marvelloustime]

Get them noses outta ya leaders doctrines
And back into THAT BIBLE . And do not wait for tomorrow
DO IT RIGHT NOW . they been pumping a false love to you all .
And by this love , by this bridge building love
by this seeker friendly love
by this ecumenical love , THEY BE leading ALL who sit under them
TO ONE DAY . and no it wont be the day of peace n safety , THOUGH THEY H OLLER this is the way to IT .
IT will be the DAY of their swift , sudden and upmost terrifying day of DESTRUCTION .
Get them OUTTA them places . Get all back into the bible and now . or prepare to weep is all i can say .

@amigo de christo

 

[Wrangler]

How about I try to put it this way.

Wow! The TDS is never ending. It might be possible that there could be something not to totally adore about the man .... Yea, will wonders never cease?! In logic, this is called Ad Homenim.

Yes, we know not everyone is like @Triumph1300 or @TLHKAJ in being the co-President of Trump's fan club. The greatness of Trump has been beaten to death!


And is really irrelevant to the cause of patriotism, nationalism, putting America First and MAGA. Now, regarding whether Christians should support Israel, Trump does and says clean, beautiful, fresh air is good and everyone should get plenty of it. Those with TDS be like:

 

[Lizbeth]

Israel wannabee?

What do you mean?

 

[NayborBear]

I call it something about Trump that is good.

It would seem? That in some peoples' eyes, blinded by TDS? That God only uses bad people to do good things in the O.T.! Eh?
Methinks, it's some kind of "inerrancy syndrome", where the Holy Bible has become more of an idol rather than a guide!

 

[Lizbeth]

Wow! The TDS is never ending. It might be possible that there could be something not to totally adore about the man .... Yea, will wonders never cease?! In logic, this is called Ad Homenim.

Yes, we know not everyone is like @Triumph1300 or @TLHKAJ in being the co-President of Trump's fan club. The greatness of Trump has been beaten to death!
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And is really irrelevant to the cause of patriotism, nationalism, putting America First and MAGA. Now, regarding whether Christians should support Israel, Trump does and says clean, beautiful, fresh air is good and everyone should get plenty of it. Those with TDS be like:

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Nebuchadnezzar was great. King of Babylon.....lion of Babylon ridden by the sex cult goddess Ishtar....and all that implies.

What is esteemed by man is abomination to God.

 

[Triumph1300]

you don't have a clue where Jesus will return! It's called ISRAEL,

We all know where He returns.
But that does not change the fact that Israel is a secular country.

 

[Triumph1300]

The TDS is never ending.

Yup, that's about 80% of the American voters right now.
Get used to it.
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And don't come back with your "usual CNN watching" remarks.
I watch news from Europe.
Got fed up with Fox/CNN yelling their biased news.
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Enjoy your sunday!

 

[Jack]

We all know where He returns.
But that does not change the fact that Israel is a secular country.

Guess you missed this: Israel is the Land of the Bible! Their Land!

 

[Triumph1300]

Guess you missed this: Israel is the Land of the Bible! Their Land!

You are very smart.
Glad you pointed this out.
A secular country with a small minority (2%) of Born Again Christians.
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Approximately 185,000
As of December 2025, the Christian population in Israel is approximately 185,000, accounting for about 2% of the total population. The community has seen a growth rate of over 1% annually.

 

[Triumph1300]

Just noticed:
When Trump does not get his way he resorts to using the "F-Word" in his nightly posts.
"A real Christian Born Again guy."

 

[TLHKAJ]

Just noticed:
When Trump does not get his way he resorts to using the "F-Word" in his nightly posts.
"A real Christian Born Again guy."

Not surprising for a man whose middle initials are "B. S." .......for Bone Spurs.

 

[Jack]

You are very smart.
Glad you pointed this out.
A secular country with a small minority (2%) of Born Again Christians.
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Approximately 185,000
As of December 2025, the Christian population in Israel is approximately 185,000, accounting for about 2% of the total population. The community has seen a growth rate of over 1% annually.

Totally irrelevant!

Totally relevant:
Luke 1:68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel,

 

[Jack]

Just noticed:
When Trump does not get his way he resorts to using the "F-Word" in his nightly posts.
"A real Christian Born Again guy."

Again, totally irrelevant! God has used Trump to BLESS Israel!

 

[Wrangler]

It would seem? That in some peoples' eyes, blinded by TDS? That God only uses bad people to do good things in the O.T.! Eh?
Methinks, it's some kind of "inerrancy syndrome", where the Holy Bible has become more of an idol rather than a guide!

Agreed. I see that idolatry with @Aunty Jane where she claims only military action explicitly commanded by God - as in the OT -is permissible despite NT verse saying where there is freedom, there is the spirit of the Lord, etc.

She just scoffs when I point out Scripture does not say to use the internet but she does. Scripture doesn’t say to brush her teeth, but she does. This shows she picks and chooses how rigidly to only do what God explicitly commands. What is especially vexing for a group that calls themselves Jehovah Witnesses, deny modern day saints who witness and testify to God’s Providence and direction in modern times. That’s extreme idolatry, to hold parchment over the living God!

To compare to my own testimony; the Spirit of God commanded me to give a warning to my doctor ahead of his missionary trip to Haiti. I could restrain myself in rationalizing nothing like this is stated in Scripture. Instead, I obeyed the Living God even though doing this is not in Scripture.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Again, totally irrelevant! God has used Trump to BLESS Israel!

Murdering children and civilians is not "blessing Israel" ...neither is condoning the Israeli government's murders of their own citizens on October 7th to validate their "war on Gaza." They not only funded Hamas, but they ordered the military to stand down for hours ...and then they fired upon their own people's homes, killing even more Israelis. You call that "blessing Israel" .... that's totally backwards.

Netanyahu wants Gaza for his proclaimed "messiah" Donald Trump.