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aspen

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Vale,
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Since when does the media fail to indulge in speculation? -_-
Which has nothing to do with my post, so what is your point?
 

aspen

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You are just being argumentative, Vale. If you would have bothered reading my interaction with Madad you would have understood what was being said. Madad made the claim that the guy killed his son on purpose according to the article. I clearly stated that the article did not determine whether the guy killed his son on purpose or on accident.

So, once again how do your comments have any relevancy in the conversation between Madad and myself? They do not so you thought you should ask me if I think we should all follow the medias lead, what ever that means.....

I guess I could ask you why you are demanding that we all eat the same food you enjoy eating - it would make about as much sense as your comments.
 

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aspen said:
You are just being argumentative, Vale. If you would have bothered reading my interaction with Madad you would have understood what was being said. Madad made the claim that the guy killed his son on purpose according to the article. I clearly stated that the article did not determine whether the guy killed his son on purpose or on accident.

So, once again how do your comments have any relevancy in the conversation between Madad and myself? They do not so you thought you should ask me if I think we should all follow the medias lead, what ever that means.....

I guess I could ask you why you are demanding that we all eat the same food you enjoy eating - it would make about as much sense as your comments.
We have different definitions of intent. For instance, the felony murder rule which many states has passed, makes it an automatic 1st degree murder charge if anyone dies as a result of a felony, whether their death was intended or not. Rob a liquor store, you're already being charged with armed robbery. If a bystander dies from a heart attack because of the fright, that's murder. After robbing the store if you get in the car and run from the cops, you're committing another felony. If one of those cops loses control and crashes in a ditch and dies, that's another intentional 1st degree murder.

The reasoning behind these laws are sound. When one decides to commit a felony, the law presumes the person takes responsibility for all the lives that felony destroys. The intent to commit the felony in the first place is the intent to murder all who die because of it.

Now if you read the article like you said, you would have run into this:

And while his son was perishing in baking temperatures, Harris was reportedly exchanging nude pictures and explicit texts with six women, including a 17-year-old.


And so now you know he committed a felony and in the eyes of the law, and Madad and myself, he intentionally murdered his son and should be charged with murder and spend the rest of his natural life behind bars. So Madad was right in his claim all along.
 

aspen

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Well by all means let's skip the trial! Vale has declared the man guilty! Oh....wait, I guess there is that crazy idea (probably some liberal came up with it) that American citizens are considered innocent until proven guilty......

Sorry to break it to you, Vale....
 

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Oh come on guys it was my fault for assuming the guy had killed his son, Im man enough to admit I could be wrong on this one. LOL

Besides the guy was charged for the murder of his boy in the end, next time I will make sure that someone has been proven guilty before making a statement otherwise.
The whole thing just made me sick, when i read about how this guy was conducting himself when his little boy roasted alive in his car.

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Girl, 10, raped at the command of village chief in Jharkhand, India

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A TEN-year-old girl has been ordered to be raped by a village chief because her dad beat up a man trying to molest his wife in India’s latest shocking sex crime.

The Times of India reports the girl has been raped at the behest of a village chief in the eastern Indian state of Jharkhand in the most recent incident in the country’s seemingingly unstoppable tide of violence against women.
Police said that the rape followed a confrontation on Monday night when a 25-year-old man barged into the victim’s house in an inebriated state, trying to molest the child’s mother.
Her husband then beat up the attacker and threw him out.
The following morning, the man went to the chief of the village in Bokaro district, police said, and complained of being assaulted. A spokesman added that an assembly of elders was convened to determine how best to punish the violent husband.
The families of the victim and the attacker were summoned to the meeting, where the village chief allegedly directed the man to rape the ten-year-old girl to avenge the assault, police said.
The man is then claimed to have dragged the girl into bushes a short distance away and raped her, ignoring her mother’s cries. An hour later, the mother retrieved her daughter from the bushes, where she lay soaked in blood, police said.
As horrifying as this incident is, it is just one of the estimated 25,000 rape cases which are reported across India each year.
full story -http://www.news.com.au/world/girl-10-raped-at-the-command-of-village-chief-in-jharkhand-india/story-fndir2ev-1226985244797
 

aspen

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Pretty sick, alright. Reminds me of II Kings where two neighbors agreed to eat one of the neighbors children for dinner one week and the other neighbors child the next week.......but when the second week rolled around, the neighbor backed out of the deal, or so the other neighbor complained to the prophet Elisha........
 

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Ku Klux Klan recruiting with bags of lollies in South Carolina

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SOME residents in north-western South Carolina say they found bags of candy on their street containing a piece of paper asking them to join the Ku Klux Klan.
Residents in an Oconee County subdivision found the on bags Saturday night or Sunday morning.
The paper said “Save Our Land, Join the Klan.” It had a phone number that led to an automated message discussing KKK efforts against illegal immigration.
Robert Jones told WHNS-TV that he’s the imperial klaliff of the Loyal White Knights and said the effort was part of a recruiting event they hold three times a year. Jones said the telephone number gets about 20,000 calls a day.
Oconee County resident Bo Morris said he thought it was “unacceptable” to see the bags and flyers in his neighbourhood.
http://www.news.com.au/world/ku-klux-klan-recruiting-with-bags-of-lollies-in-south-carolina/story-fndir2ev-1226991622821
 

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Madad, I've argued repeatedly that the rising popularity of the KKK, Christian Identity, White supremacist and separatist groups is a backlash against runaway political correctness perpetrated by the demonic Left. People are made to feel guilty because they're white, and on the other hand, I've been condescended to and told I'm a victim because of my race. Only Satan seeks to divide people by race and sow contentions, that is not of God, so that's why I call the Left demonic, among many other reasons.
 

Madad21

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This Vale Of Tears said:
Madad, I've argued repeatedly that the rising popularity of the KKK, Christian Identity, White supremacist and separatist groups is a backlash against runaway political correctness perpetrated by the demonic Left. People are made to feel guilty because they're white, and on the other hand, I've been condescended to and told I'm a victim because of my race. Only Satan seeks to divide people by race and sow contentions, that is not of God, so that's why I call the Left demonic, among many other reasons.
Interesting thank you.

I can see your point. Isnt it funny how those who take a stance against rise in liberal immorality have become so demonized by the media and secular social analytics that speaking out against such things is fast becoming a crime in the west.
Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

Soon Christians will be labelled as terrorists (?)
 

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Did you ever hear of the "Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States" funded by the department of homeland security. It pretty much labels anyone who disagrees with the state as a threat.

No not soon, that ship has sailed. We are already considered a threat.
 

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This Vale Of Tears said:
Madad, I've argued repeatedly that the rising popularity of the KKK, Christian Identity, White supremacist and separatist groups is a backlash against runaway political correctness perpetrated by the demonic Left. People are made to feel guilty because they're white, and on the other hand, I've been condescended to and told I'm a victim because of my race. Only Satan seeks to divide people by race and sow contentions, that is not of God, so that's why I call the Left demonic, among many other reasons.
I totaly have to agree with that...............years ago maybe you could be a Christian and be on the left......but not today @ 11:55 am.
Either you know Christ and don't know what your party is up to.......or you don't know Christ and you know what your party is up to...

Even after the democratic party took a vote to vote God out of their platform in 2012.....some leftiest Christians still defend them//////WOW!!!!!


Oh......and by the way.....I'm against all parties....

My party is God..............if they aint for Him...then they are against Him and if they are against Him...then I'm against them!
 

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RANDOR said:
I totaly have to agree with that...............years ago maybe you could be a Christian and be on the left......but not today @ 11:55 am.
Either you know Christ and don't know what your party is up to.......or you don't know Christ and you know what your party is up to...

Even after the democratic party took a vote to vote God out of their platform in 2012.....some leftiest Christians still defend them//////WOW!!!!!


Oh......and by the way.....I'm against all parties....

My party is God..............if they aint for Him...then they are against Him and if they are against Him...then I'm against them!
Though I generally vote Republican, I'm not sold on any party either. And when I talk about the demonic Left, I'm not necessarily referring to the Democrat party because Satan has loyal servants in the GOP too. The Left is a culture in this country hostile to the knowledge of God, persisting indefatigably in undermining morality and the law of God, and persecuting all those who stand up for righteousness......some of them are right here in this forum.
 

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Woman in Yemen Burned to Death for Her Faith Brother, brother-in-law said to have sabotaged cooking oil bottle.
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Nazeera receiving hospital treatment after fire attack. (Morning Star News via Saeed)

ISTANBUL (Morning Star News) – On the morning of June 9 in southern Yemen, Saeed woke to the sound of screaming. He shot out of bed, pushed panicked family members aside and saw his wife stumbling out of their kitchen, engulfed in flames.
His wife, Nazeera, had been preparing breakfast at about 9 a.m. when she poured liquid from a cooking oil bottle into a hot pan. The liquid flashed, and the bottle exploded. While her four children watched, screaming, Nazeera was being burned alive.
“I rushed out of the room,” Saeed (full name undisclosed for security reasons) told Morning Star News, weeping. “I couldn’t even speak to ask her what happened. All I could think about was putting the fire out and then getting her to the hospital. But my 16-year-old son, he couldn’t stop himself and held on to her, hugging her while she was burning. He got hurt, and I had to pull him away from her.”
About two weeks later, Nazeera, 33, died as a result of her burns. When Saeed returned to his home in a village (undisclosed for security reasons) after her death, a relative told him the unthinkable – members of both his family and hers had taken the vegetable oil out of the bottle and replaced it with gasoline. Saeed knew the reason – many years ago, the two had become Christians and refused to return to Islam.
After living in hiding in Yemen for several months, Saeed was able to flee to the relative safety of another country, he told Morning Star News.
Before the attack, Saeed and his wife had already decided to flee their families and the 99 percent Muslim country on the Arabian Peninsula. They got their travel papers two days before the sabotaged bottle exploded.
Full story: http://morningstarnews.org/2014/08/woman-in-yemen-burned-to-death-for-her-faith/
 

Madad21

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Oh it so quirky it must be acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u4TptcSHN0&noredirect=1

Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

You know I guess Im just naive to think that some morals still play a role in today's society, but then I see things like this and I realize that we have already gone too far.
 

aspen

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Hmm....is burning people alive strictly used as a method for killing Christians? I think the significant part of the story is that another women in a third world country has been murdered using this method. This is a crime against women and it is quite popular in India, Africa, and Middle Eastern countries.
 

Madad21

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aspen said:
Hmm....is burning people alive strictly used as a method for killing Christians? I think the significant part of the story is that another women in a third world country has been murdered using this method. This is a crime against women and it is quite popular in India, Africa, and Middle Eastern countries.
I put it up there because its a disgusting thing to do to anybody Aspen
But yes its a Christian forum so chances are I'm going to find Christian orientated material, if that's ok
 

aspen

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Madad21 said:
I put it up there because its a disgusting thing to do to anybody Aspen
But yes its a Christian forum so chances are I'm going to find Christian orientated material, if that's ok
Nothing wrong with your post - I am just trying to balance it out. There are a lot of people on this board will read your post and " yep! Just one more way Christians are getting persecuted!" And I just wanted to point out that women are persecuted in this manner simply because they are seen as inferior.