What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?"What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? It is abundantly clear the homosexuality was the primary evil. The biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah is recorded in Genesis chapters 18-19. Genesis chapter 18 records the LORD and two angels coming to speak with Abraham. The LORD reiterated His promise to Abraham that he would have a son through Sarah. The LORD also informed Abraham that, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous..." Verses 22-33 record Abraham pleading with the LORD to have mercy on Sodom and Gomorrah because Abraham's nephew, Lot, and his family lived in Sodom.Genesis chapter 19 records the two angels, disguised as human men, visiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then informs us, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." The angels then proceeded to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver. Lot and his family flee the city, and then, "the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities — and also the vegetation in the land."The men of Sodom and Gomorrah, thinking that the visiting angels were men, wanted to have sex with them. Those who attempt to explain away the biblical condemnations of homosexuality claim that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was inhospitality. While the men of Sodom and Gomorrah were certainly being inhospitable...that clearly was not all. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah desired to perform homosexual gang rape on the angels. Also, God never declared inhospitality to be an abomination to Him, while Leviticus 18:22 makes God’s view of homosexuality clear: “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” While Sodom and Gomorrah were surely guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulfur on the cities, completely destroying them and all of their inhabitants. To this day, the area where Sodom and Gomorrah were located remains a desolate wasteland. Sodom and Gomorrah serve as a powerful example of how God feels about sin in general, and homosexuality specifically.
Sin of Sodom and Gomorrah
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(kriss;47502)
While Sodom and Gomorrah were surely guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulfur on the cities, completely destroying them and all of their inhabitants. To this day, the area where Sodom and Gomorrah were located remains a desolate wasteland. Sodom and Gomorrah serve as a powerful example of how God feels about sin in general, and homosexuality specifically.
I disagree.God had already condemned the city prior to sending the Angels to lot.Their sin is great, it wasn't being specific as to the exact reasons the city was being condemned.
While Sodom and Gomorrah were surely guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulfur on the cities, completely destroying them and all of their inhabitants. To this day, the area where Sodom and Gomorrah were located remains a desolate wasteland. Sodom and Gomorrah serve as a powerful example of how God feels about sin in general, and homosexuality specifically.
I disagree.God had already condemned the city prior to sending the Angels to lot.Their sin is great, it wasn't being specific as to the exact reasons the city was being condemned.
I believe the government had become so very liberal that openly gay activity was allowed even on public streets. I believe we will see liberal judges and president and polititions in very last days. Not just here but in the world. Thats the way it was in the time of jesus. Liberal govt and corupt false relegion influencing govt.
(crooner;47518)
I believe the government had become so very liberal that openly gay activity was allowed even on public streets. I believe we will see liberal judges and president and polititions in very last days. Not just here but in the world. Thats the way it was in the time of jesus. Liberal govt and corupt false relegion influencing govt.
But Jesus was a radical liberal???
He was put to death by the conservatives.
I believe the government had become so very liberal that openly gay activity was allowed even on public streets. I believe we will see liberal judges and president and polititions in very last days. Not just here but in the world. Thats the way it was in the time of jesus. Liberal govt and corupt false relegion influencing govt.
But Jesus was a radical liberal???
He was put to death by the conservatives.You are very wrong He was not political. But He did die for their sins. Most radical liberals dont even believe in Jesus. No Jesus no rules. Jesus lives by the rules.
You are very wrong He was not political. But He did die for their sins. Most radical liberals dont even believe in Jesus. No Jesus no rules. Jesus lives by the rules.
(David161099;47532)
But Jesus was a radical liberal???He was put to death by the conservatives.
Lots of governers and leader were bi-sexual liberals, the Pharisies were self rightous church leaders who threatened the Govenors. You have your politics mixed up. But your still a cool child of God.
But Jesus was a radical liberal???
He was put to death by the conservatives.Lots of governers and leader were bi-sexual liberals, the Pharisies were self rightous church leaders who threatened the Govenors. You have your politics mixed up. But your still a cool child of God.
Yeah I think words conservative/liberal are different in your country.The conservatives down under are all about making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Something Jesus specifically and literally taught against.
(David161099;47589)
Yeah I think words conservative/liberal are different in your country.The conservatives down under are all about making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Something Jesus specifically and literally taught against.
No, you've got your politics all wrong. Before you make blind accusations, learn the history and definitions of conservative and liberal. Liberals are pushing for change, they're more of a socialist (communist) bunch. They try to push for more freedom and more outrageous laws. The counter culture helped bring us liberalism.Liberalism brought:1. Women Rights (not necessarily a bad thing).2. Homosexuality a social norm.3. Experimentation with drugs.4. More free sexual lifestyles.5. Generally everything wicked that's under the sun.6. Abortion.7. More religions (the 60's is when America lost fear in the Lord, now nobody even knows of fear)Conservatives are the bunch who want to keep the old laws. Hence the word conserve. All (I can safely say all) of the God fearing Christians are Republican/Conservative. I am a far right wing conservative.America was founded upon Christian principals. Liberalism came and brought us new problems, and it changed a lot of our laws and values that kept America righteous and a functioning country. This is why in the 1900's you don't see nearly as many problems as today in the new millennium (2000's).PS. Jesus was a conservative. He was only fulfilling prophecies, he didn't break any laws (that didn't go against the word of God), he didn't sin, he obeyed the Sabbath, he was submissive to authority (while he was still the Authority).
Yeah I think words conservative/liberal are different in your country.The conservatives down under are all about making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Something Jesus specifically and literally taught against.
No, you've got your politics all wrong. Before you make blind accusations, learn the history and definitions of conservative and liberal. Liberals are pushing for change, they're more of a socialist (communist) bunch. They try to push for more freedom and more outrageous laws. The counter culture helped bring us liberalism.Liberalism brought:1. Women Rights (not necessarily a bad thing).2. Homosexuality a social norm.3. Experimentation with drugs.4. More free sexual lifestyles.5. Generally everything wicked that's under the sun.6. Abortion.7. More religions (the 60's is when America lost fear in the Lord, now nobody even knows of fear)Conservatives are the bunch who want to keep the old laws. Hence the word conserve. All (I can safely say all) of the God fearing Christians are Republican/Conservative. I am a far right wing conservative.America was founded upon Christian principals. Liberalism came and brought us new problems, and it changed a lot of our laws and values that kept America righteous and a functioning country. This is why in the 1900's you don't see nearly as many problems as today in the new millennium (2000's).PS. Jesus was a conservative. He was only fulfilling prophecies, he didn't break any laws (that didn't go against the word of God), he didn't sin, he obeyed the Sabbath, he was submissive to authority (while he was still the Authority).
Yes but as a young black male in America, I have to thank the "liberals" for marching for civil rights since others wanted to keep things the way they were ie keep the old laws. ( I believe you call that conserve?)
(David161099;47516)
I disagree.God had already condemned the city prior to sending the Angels to lot.Their sin is great, it wasn't being specific as to the exact reasons the city was being condemned.
I'm will entertain the thought, seriously, that homosexuality was a portion of their sin, absolutely. The acceptence of homosexuality as a norm was a great sin that lead to even greater and greater sin (as accepting sin slowly but surely will do). It was the mentality, and the lifestyle that developed from giving into such a sin as homosexuality.Given the fact that a bunch of men from the city wanted "know" the angels who appeared as men, shortly after coming into the city... and violently came to the door to do so... shows that that homosexuality not only played a roll in it... but was only a part of what was going on there. Genesis 19:4-7I have been around homosexuals, and there was never an environment where I felt they might be able to gang up and "know" me or anyone else in the room. Nor would they take it upon themselves to take that dignity from someone in a "mob mentality" by raping new comers.It was homosexuality, yes... and a great degree of self-serving, violence, and irreverence for the preservation of the sactity of sexuality, and of other people. These were like most homosexuals we may or may not know... but there was a great deal of other sins going on here. Homosexuality is an obvious one.
I disagree.God had already condemned the city prior to sending the Angels to lot.Their sin is great, it wasn't being specific as to the exact reasons the city was being condemned.
I'm will entertain the thought, seriously, that homosexuality was a portion of their sin, absolutely. The acceptence of homosexuality as a norm was a great sin that lead to even greater and greater sin (as accepting sin slowly but surely will do). It was the mentality, and the lifestyle that developed from giving into such a sin as homosexuality.Given the fact that a bunch of men from the city wanted "know" the angels who appeared as men, shortly after coming into the city... and violently came to the door to do so... shows that that homosexuality not only played a roll in it... but was only a part of what was going on there. Genesis 19:4-7I have been around homosexuals, and there was never an environment where I felt they might be able to gang up and "know" me or anyone else in the room. Nor would they take it upon themselves to take that dignity from someone in a "mob mentality" by raping new comers.It was homosexuality, yes... and a great degree of self-serving, violence, and irreverence for the preservation of the sactity of sexuality, and of other people. These were like most homosexuals we may or may not know... but there was a great deal of other sins going on here. Homosexuality is an obvious one.
I concur with David on this one. Homosexuality was definitely a blatant sin in the culture of Sodom & Gomorrah, but the Bible is not specific as to the exact sins for which the cities were condemned. I'd say most likely it was just the entire heart attitude of rebellion against God, and doing whatever they fancied (remind you of any modern nation...?)
(treeoflife;47629)
I have been around homosexuals, and there was never an environment where I felt they might be able to gang up and "know" me or anyone else in the room. Nor would they take it upon themselves to take that dignity from someone in a "mob mentality" by raping new comers.
I understand that male on male rape is a frequent practice in prisons. You presume a lot about these men you know. Few victims of rape think they are about to be raped. Many times it is such unwarranted trust that presents the opportunity to commit such a crime. Nevertheless your friends at the very least were constrained by enforced laws of our times, that clearly S&G did not have. Even if the law was on the books the sheriff and the judge were probably first in line at Lot's door...
I have been around homosexuals, and there was never an environment where I felt they might be able to gang up and "know" me or anyone else in the room. Nor would they take it upon themselves to take that dignity from someone in a "mob mentality" by raping new comers.
I understand that male on male rape is a frequent practice in prisons. You presume a lot about these men you know. Few victims of rape think they are about to be raped. Many times it is such unwarranted trust that presents the opportunity to commit such a crime. Nevertheless your friends at the very least were constrained by enforced laws of our times, that clearly S&G did not have. Even if the law was on the books the sheriff and the judge were probably first in line at Lot's door...
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