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ScottA

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Salvation is but a moment .. sure. But it seems your view of the Trinity needs updating. The Father is all Truth = omniscient. So, yeah, the Truth never changes and is true throughout eternity. But since it also includes time, things are true in a certain and logical order.

Now the Holy Ghost and the Son are part of the "all Truth" that are revealed in "the fulness of time." This is also true of everything God foreknows .. "He will lead you into all truth … and show you things to come." (Jn 16:13)

What you seem to be saying is that Truth doesn't have to be logical, no?

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Are you high? You're bouncing all over.

Updating? I never shared my view of the Trinity with you.

Nonetheless, you are still trying to put God into His own creation, into time. That would be like putting an artist into a painting, or like putting God into a clay pot. But you are not making the connection: God has put Himself into the painting, "in His own image" and He did put Himself into a clay pot...but it is just an i-m-a-g-e, and "It is finished" and has left the pot - He lowered Himself for a season, but now is risen. The world that you seem to like having God being a part of forever more...is passing away. Time has no part in eternity. It is a image on His wall, a book that is written on His shelf - that's all.
 

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Nonetheless, you are still trying to put God into His own creation, into time.
Duh! God the Father did send His Holy Ghost, His Son, into the earth to create all that exists. Or do you not think that Jesus was God?

He lowered Himself for a season, but now is risen.
Actually, no. The Son was in the form of God called the Holy Ghost even before He "made himself of no reputation .. the form of man." (Phil 2:7-8). Christ was in this world from Adam (He walked with Adam, Enoch, etc. as the pre-incarnate Christ) till His resurrection. And NOW He is present in those of us who are saved, Col 1:27. In us, He is known as the "Comforter" (Jn 14:16-17, 26), the "Holy Ghost" (Acts 2:38), etc. He is the actual Person of the Godhead being formed in us (Gal 4:19, Ro 8:29). He will be taken out of this world in the rapture of the church (2Thes 2:6-7) b/c He will not receive of the wrath of God.

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Duh! God the Father did send His Holy Ghost, His Son, into the earth to create all that exists. Or do you not think that Jesus was God?
See, that is the problem...you believe that "all that exists" is in the "earth", when it is not, but is a mere "image." This "image" of creation, is God's revelation to those who are His and those who are not, and when the fullness thereof is complete the end of it shall come, just as it is written.
Actually, no. The Son was in the form of God called the Holy Ghost even before He "made himself of no reputation .. the form of man." (Phil 2:7-8). Christ was in this world from Adam (He walked with Adam, Enoch, etc. as the pre-incarnate Christ) till His resurrection. And NOW He is present in those of us who are saved, Col 1:27. In us, He is known as the "Comforter" (Jn 14:16-17, 26), the "Holy Ghost" (Acts 2:38), etc. He is the actual Person of the Godhead being formed in us (Gal 4:19, Ro 8:29). He will be taken out of this world in the rapture of the church (2Thes 2:6-7) b/c He will not receive of the wrath of God.
Because of your misunderstanding, it is better that you first understand that God is not in the world, before seeing Him in the world. Do you understand that the world was corrupt and evil, "the valley of the shadow of death?" Only then can one understand that God chose a people to be a light unto all peoples, and sent His Son as the Light of the world to fulfill the promise to deliver them. But while the fate of the world and the flesh is fire, Christ only "committed His spirit" to the Father and not His flesh...because "God is spirit", and that is the future. And the timing of the fulfillment of the promise of God is not "future" as you preach it, but "today" as Christ has declared. In this way, "today" is given to all who look to God, that when they hear His voice He comes in to them, just as it is written: "that day", fulfilling what Paul clarified to be the order and the timing, as "each in his own order"...and not in some "future" one-time mass even, as you preach it.