Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Judge Hardcastle]

Who said I was Catholic?

You gave a very strong indication of it in a post. Don't remember where.

Besides that, your theology concerning 'sin unto death' is very 'Catholic'

I put the two together and came to the conclusion, right or wrong, that you are Catholic.

But anyway, the sin unto death is willful and deliberate unbelief in the face of the undeniable testimony of the Holy Spirit.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You gave a very strong indication of it in a post. Don't remember where.

Besides that, your theology concerning 'sin unto death' is very 'Catholic'

I put the two together and came to the conclusion, right or wrong, that you are Catholic.

But anyway, the sin unto death is willful and deliberate unbelief in the face of the undeniable testimony of the Holy Spirit.

I was speaking of church history, starting with Catholics, and the last four church ages out of the seven letters. The first is Thyatira in Rev. 2, that Jesus said, "19 “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first." As you see their doctrines at first were good. They knew that for the past 3,600 years God saw sin in two categories, mortal and venial. That was the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Sardis is the next, but they changed what Thyatira got right into "sin is sin." Jesus said of them, "you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead." Reformed church denominations have never straightened out their doctrine. Still I would never choose Catholics or Reformed churches as my home church. It is Philadelphia that straightened out the false doctrines of those past heretical doctrines. That Catholics idolized Mary, and Reformed has the blood of Jesus continually cleansing mortal sins which is unscriptural.

 

[MostlyConfused]

Oh, 1CL, I’m sorry I posted a chit chat unrelated thing. Thought I was in someone else’s thread!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Oh, 1CL, I’m sorry I posted a chit chat unrelated thing. Thought I was in someone else’s thread!

I must have missed it. Don't know what you are talking about

 

[Laurina]

12, correct, so then what are we talking about?

Caleb and Joshua had faith, the other 10 feared and were punished with death for their unbelief, not allowed to enter the promised land while have being there and reported fear, unbelief.

The discussion started by MC saying -- the prophet you both support through tick and thin -- epi has been as one of the spies being in the promised and now is back and telling us what he saw.

And what does your prophet preach?

He preaches that there is a promised land to enter into NOW!! Most people are waiting until they die...it's too late then. The only dying that needs to take place is the dying to self.
Epi teaches that God is waiting for us to come back to Him a second time, after our first encounter with Him, like the one out of 10 lepers that was healed...Jesus asked the one who returned to Him where the other 9 went...He had healed 10! The other 9, who are they today, and what are they doing...they've been healed, but do they KNOW Jesus...could we be one of the 9??
Epi encourages us to make sure we are not of them that get spewed out of Jesus' mouth, that Jesus will not say to us, "Get away, I don't know you."
Epi is a voice calling to the people wandering in the wilderness to cross over, that Jesus is waiting for us to BELEIVE THE IMPOSSIBLE because with HIM (JESUS) ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

The beauty he saw, encouraging people, edifying people ?

To those with faith Epi is very, very encouraging. But, if you have no faith, or IF you have been seduced but the enemy and have believed his lies and hang on to those lies like they are your life...I could see where you would have a problem with Epi, because Epi has seen (spiritually) and has spiritual gifts whereby he tears down the enemies strongholds and since you are (unknowingly to you) hanging on to these strongholds thinking they are your life, you would HATE him. I understand you, I had also stood where you are standing.

No, his message is fear, like the 10 spies.

His message is to FEAR GOD....it's the beginning of wisdom!!
Epi's not the one who speaks ill of what he witnessed and saw as a spy...he has a good, actually GREAT report. It's you who don't believe him, who speak ill of him, that have a bad report of what HE HAS SEEN ( @Lizbeth has mocked his testimony and when he has recounted some experiences he has had, Lizbeth has tried to sow doubt and bring discord, as do others, she's not alone in it). You can't push any bad report on him! He has met the Lord, and has nothing but good to say about that!!
You and your allies are like the 10 spies, and as you play that part, YOU SHOULD FEAR.

Wake up.

Oh, I have woken up and am awake, praise and thank God!!!

Remember what Epi recently said, how he in an unguarded moment sinned and trembled all over afraid the Lord would cast him in outer darkness.

Yeah, so....so did David, what of it?? David always cried out to God especially when he realized that he failed God, as did/does Epi. You've never failed?? You're not human?? Judge not lest you be judged.

@Laurina, dear sister, is that the Gospel message ?

Think...

He has not understood how much God loves him.

I think you're looking in a mirror and it's you that doesn't understand how much God loves. For Epi has seen God’s kingdom, and God IS LOVE.

In all these years.

We can't earn our salvation.

Be assured that no one is trying to earn their salvation. It's by grace through faith, and that is another thing that Epi teaches. Have you never seen him write that?? Have your eyes been blinded to what he writes??

Acts 28:27
"For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them."

I pray that your eyes open, your ears may hear, and you turn anew to God like the 1 out of 10 lepers who was healed.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

Reformed has the blood of Jesus continually cleansing mortal sins which is unscriptural.

There is no sin that the blood of Jesus cannot forgive (except the sin of willful unbelief).

As I showed you in the Bible, all sin is potentially mortal. There is no such thing as a division between mortal and venial sins. Unforgiven fits of rage, or divisiveness, for example will condemn you just as much as adultery will. Galatians 5:19--21. Read that passage and see that what I'm saying is true.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

There is no sin that the blood of Jesus cannot forgive (except the sin of willful unbelief).

As I showed you in the Bible, all sin is potentially mortal. There is no such thing as a division between mortal and venial sins. Unforgiven fits of rage, or divisiveness, for example will condemn you just as much as adultery will. Galatians 5:19--21. Read that passage and see that what I'm saying is true.

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

This is why it was important that those in the Reformation bring forward the two types of sin the Catholics taught, instead of lumping the two together. Only unintentional sins can be continuously cleansed, not willful sins once cleansed as you think.