Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Episkopos]

Okay, then explain this:

Galatians 3:2-4
2Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law, or by hearing with faith?
5Does God lavish His Spirit on you and work miracles among you because you practice the law, or because you hear and believe?

So are you saying that your beliefs produce miracles? Or just pretend miracles? Faith is toward God. When we believe with all our hearts God then translates us to walk in a miraculous place....in holiness.....without sin.

You are WAYYY too indoctrinated into a false religious apprehension to understand spiritual things.

Just read the verses you posted again without the self-interest.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

It is BECAUSE I know the spiritual walk that I expose pretenders such as yourself who declare themselves forgiven and righteous based on reading the bible.

No, based on hearing and believing what the Bible says. Lots of people read/hear the Bible. Few believe it and are justified.

Justification is by believing what you hear because that is how you receive what the Bible says is the way to be right with him. The sacrifice of Jesus that justifies was brought to God for you. You didn't do that. So you receive the effect of his sacrifice for justification by having faith in what God has said he has done for you. That is what it means to be justified 'by faith'. You can't see what God has done for you. It can only be received by faith.

And no one is declaring themselves forgiven and righteous. That declaration comes from God's own word that those who will believe in the blood of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin and the turning away of his wrath will be justified and receive eternal life and enter into the kingdom.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

When we believe with all our hearts God then translates us to walk in a miraculous place....in holiness.....without sin.

Depends on what you 'believe with all your heart'.

If you believe with all your heart that your holiness is the righteousness by which God will declare you righteous, then, no, you will not be translated to walk in holiness. Faith in the sacrifice of Jesus on your behalf is what translates you into the supernatural power of the Spirit for daily living. God gives the Spirit in response to faith in Jesus' blood, not your works.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

So are you saying that your beliefs produce miracles?

Paul is saying you receive the Spirit, by which God does miraculous things, by the hearing of faith (believing what you heard), not by the righteousness of works.

Faith is toward God.

Yes, but it is what you have faith in God about that determines if you have the benefit of the Spirit in that faith. Having faith in your obedience to be declared righteous does not solicit the Holy Spirit and the miraculous things wrought by the Spirit. Having faith in the blood of Christ for the turning away of God's wrath and the expiation of sin does.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

You are WAYYY too indoctrinated into a false religious apprehension to understand spiritual things.

I'm indoctrinated by the plain verses of scripture I showed you. You have yet to show those scriptures to be false as to the apprehending of justification and salvation and eternal life. You are the one who does not believe them, not us. You are the one who does not have the hearing of faith.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

Just read the verses you posted again without the self-interest.

I'm the one excusing self-interest and self-promotion, not you. You are the one who is enamored with trying to justify yourself by your righteous works, not me. And I'm supposed to be the self-centric, egotistical one? You're kidding, right?

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm the one excusing self-interest and self-promotion, not you. You are the one who is enamored with trying to justify yourself by your righteous works, not me. And I'm supposed to be the self-centric, egotistical one? You're kidding, right?

heed not a word that comes out of the mouth of that man . Inclusivism preaches A FALSE GOSPEL . we dont heed THAT .

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

Exactly. Unless you are born again you cannot perceive or enter the spiritual realm to walk as Jesus walked....without sin.

But you still sin. So now what?

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

As soon as you bring sin into the equation you are fully out of the sphere of spiritual life and holiness. In fact it is a MUCH worse sin to sin in holiness.

You still sin. Now what?