Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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Dryhn

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There are many people in the Church that are ignorant of John's meaning of 1 John 1: 6, 8 and 10. You may like being unrighteous, but verse 9 is how to become a Christian and ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS is cleansed. That is why John said, "My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin.

Is is really a lie to agree with Jesus that He cleanses us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS? Are you still a lawless sinner then? Is it a lie to agree with verse 9? John tells you the true meaning of 1 John 1:8 and 10 in 1 John 2:4 "He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

Can you see it now, A? It is NOT saying you have no sin that is the lie. It is sinning and saying you haven't.

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Your flesh no longer sins ? Wow
 

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Jesus said answered prayer depends upon believing, not upon “hearing God’s voice.”

You claim your prayers are always answered because of some mystical experience, which you pridefully boast about.


Matthew 21:22

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
That verse is true for me. Is it true for you?
 

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But I can't take credit for it. Jesus did it.

Has He done it for you too? All you have to do is ask Him, IF YOU WANT TO STOP SINNING. It is why He came. Study 1 John 3.
Our sins are eternally forgiven yet our flesh still sins in either thought, desire, word, deed or failing to do what is right.
You will waste your time trying to convince me your flesh no longer sins
 
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Our sins are eternally forgiven yet our flesh still sins in either thought, desire, word, deed or failing to do what is right.
You will waste your time trying to convince me your flesh no longer sins
I'm sorry if you are still in "the flesh." I hope you don't think "the flesh" is your physical body. That would be dumb. After all Paul said,

Romans 8:8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Where in Australia do you live? Do you know where Toowoomba is? That is where my mother is from.
 

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Can you really not see that evangelicalism teaches men to say God does not see their sin because He only sees Jesus? Or that God sees them as perfect and righteous because they received the down payment? Can you really not see it teaches them to condemn unbelievers even IF they treat others well?
God already knows we are sinners. He doesn't have to upset himself by seeing it. He turns away from sin
 

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Our sins are eternally forgiven yet our flesh still sins in either thought, desire, word, deed or failing to do what is right.
You will waste your time trying to convince me your flesh no longer sins
You need a lesson on "the flesh." It is not our physical body, but our inner carnal nature. It is also called "the old man."

Romans 6:
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body (whole or catalogue, like the body of works of The Beatles) of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 12 lest sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.

It is not enough that you can be free from sin; you must also know it scripturally, lest you believe, and keep listening to the lies that you can never be free from sin in the flesh. THEN you will keep sinning, like a dog who goes back to his own vomit. 2 Peter 2:18-22 "18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who [i]have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”